Posted on 03/22/2010 4:05:55 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
The number of states in various stages of passing laws to shield their citizens against ObmamanationCare (tm) now appears to exceed the number necessary to call a Constitutional Convention. Question for FR: are the present dangers to liberty sufficiently grave enough to risk the potential dangers of a Convention called to bring Leviathan to heel?
A constitutional convention would be the greatest disaster ever to befall whats left of the Republic. We have NO ONE even approaching the stature and ability of Washington, Hamilton, Madison etc etc etc. No No NO!
lets see.........we are gonna put people in charge of a constitutional convention that are currently trampling over the one we got.........not no, but hell no
No. We don’t need to change the Constitution. We simply need leaders who will follow the one we have.
The Constitution is saturated with gasoline and the light’s gone dim. Got a match? I hope not.
Not now, not in a million f****** years.
Ping.
Before we even think about a constitutional convention, we need to clean house in Washington, the state capitals and local governments. Send Washington Republicans, Democrats and Indepentents packing. We definitely don’t want the same old thieves and non-reps writing up the new rules.
Can you even imagine what we’d wind up with? We’d end up with 300+ pages full of things like “everyone has the right to dignity” and other such nonsense.
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No way, not with Pelosi and Reid with gavels, not with Obama holding the Bully Pulpit. That would be a disaster. There’s no need for a convention anyway. All we really need is for the original intent to be upheld. Hang tight, FRiend. We lost a battle, but we’re winning the war. Healthcare will win the war too.
THE TRAP IS SPRUNG — a few of us knew but held back. Now? Muahahah! Healthcare will NOT suffer new entitlements. The democrats managed to open a big bear trap, stick their heads in, and trigger the thing to decapitate themselves. Conservatives? Voices of warning ignored. Our economy will suffer like never before, but if that kills the cancer of liberalism, so be it.
Why is healthcare new-entitlement free? Trying to hide the cost, they can’t speed up the process. We have four years — time to vote the bums out AND elect a new president to overturn this monster before a single entitlement is exploited.
Those who voted for it — dust in the wind. Keeping its freedom, healthcare tourism to the US will rise. Just as soon as the world realizes that, the brain drain of top notch doctors to the US will resume. In fact, conservative solutions of healthcare will be implemented, thanks to all the attention forced on this issue. This is the dawning of even better days for healthcare in the Free World.
And please consider this:
Bill Clinton Mocks Gore: Start of Spring is ‘otherwise known to Al Gore as proof of global warming’...
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/03/21/clinton-returns-to-washington-needling-himself-obama-and-the-press
Not only would I not trust Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Gore, Sharpton, Emmanuel, Hoyer, Jesse Jackson, and Bill Ayers who would likely represent Democrats in a new Constitutional Convention, I don’t trust either Bush, Boehner, McConnell, the Doles, Steele, McCain, Graham, Gingrich and the other Republican establishment members who would “represent” our side. There is no way the elites would let Michele Bachmann, Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, Michele Malkin, Charles Krauthammer and other conservatives anywhere near a new Constitutional Convention.
A more pressing need is for patriots to take over local governments.
Run for your local council seat.
Volunteer for your local planning committee.
Elect a conservative, pro-second amendment sheriff.
People need a constitutional political base to operate from. It’s the way the Founders did it.
Local governments can pass ordinances and make judicial rulings that will cause chaos in the federal machinery. A thousand local brushfires across the country will overwhelm federal resources and manpower.
"It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."
It's still true, though, that's for sure.
Also, Wendell Phillips said this in a speech in 1852:
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty—power is ever stealing from the many to the few…. The hand entrusted with power becomes the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted Agitation can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in material prosperity."
Total disaster. Bad idea.
What problems do we think we can solve Constitutional Convention?
My two cents is that it matters not how many amendments we place in the Constitution while the judiciary is intent on replacing it with its own will. More words saying it means what it says don’t matter to people who don’t read it anyway. The arms lawsuit against the City of Chicago is case in point, and the 10th amendment says it all from my perspective but apparently no longer means anything.
I’m starting to wonder if maybe the Anti-Federalists had a point when they feared that the establishment of a powerful central government would hasten a devolution into tyranny. They were right that it doesn’t really matter what is written on a piece of parchment because it only has meaning as long as it is given meaning by society and the government itself. As long as we’re in the state where it is respected by almost no one even under the best of circumstances a Constitutional Convention would be futile.
I am poking around the edges that government as constituted by the Convention of 1787 is irreparably damaged; not because the Constitution is deficient, but because the nature of a powerful central government is and it needs to be taken out behind the woodshed and put out of our misery.
Be careful what you wish for.
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