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Stupak Slams His Own Democratic Party (Jaw-Dropping Accusation about Mindset of Party of Abortion)
National Review ^ | National Review

Posted on 03/13/2010 7:51:20 AM PST by quesney

Can't believe the National Review buried this nugget in the article. Disturbing, to say the least.

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Stupak notes that his negotiations with House Democratic leaders in recent days [about the health care plan] have been revealing. “I really believe that the Democratic leadership is simply unwilling to change its stance,” he says. “Their position says that women, especially those without means available, should have their abortions covered.” The arguments they have made to him in recent deliberations, he adds, “are a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak (a pro-Life Democrat opposing the bill) says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortocrats; bartstupak; deathindustry; healthcare; infanticide; michigan; obamacare; prochoice; prodeath; prolife; stupak; stupakamendment; taxpayerabortion
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To: quesney
If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more.

It is the same Death Panel mentality that will say "extending the life of this elderly person or expensive treatment for a terminal but curable illness is unaffordable."

There is a big difference between being "covered" and actually being treated.
141 posted on 03/13/2010 4:14:48 PM PST by etradervic (It's the People's Seat ! http://www.toomeyforsenate.com)
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To: quesney

this is exactly why Democrats should be in charge of “end of life” decisions for the elderly, too!

/sarcasm


142 posted on 03/13/2010 5:07:34 PM PST by Enchante (Obama and Brennan think that 20% of terrorists re-joining the battle is just fine with them)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; cripplecreek; quantim; Arthur Wildfire! March; jenk; MsLady

There is not a chance in hell Stupak will switch parties.

He’s mostly a typical leftist rat.


143 posted on 03/13/2010 6:09:32 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: RightOnline; ez; Nuc1

144 posted on 03/13/2010 6:33:51 PM PST by TheOldLady ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." -- Albert Camus)
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To: quesney

Personally, I don’t know what Stupak is doing. When I saw him at a town hall meeting, a man asked if the dems kept the abortion language in the bill, would he vote against it. He would not give a straight answer. My problem with Stupak is, he may not vote for it with the abortion language in it, but, he will for sure vote for it, if it’s taken out.


145 posted on 03/13/2010 7:14:59 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: glennaro

I hope that Stupak and the pro-life Democrats stand fast and bring down the health care bill. Just like the Notre Dame pro-lifers offered the first real protest against the newly elected messiah when he spoke at the college last May.

Pro-lifers can show the secular Tea Party libertarians that social conservatives should be in the tent too. We are all in this together.


146 posted on 03/13/2010 7:25:53 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: quesney
What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says.

Sooooo, there aren't any death panels ey??? First they take the life of the innocent. Then they come after anyone that's not fit to live, according to there standards.

147 posted on 03/13/2010 7:26:52 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: quesney
Hell with Stupak. Had he and the other so-called Pro-Life Rats not even voted for the House bill in the first place then this whole crapola wouldn't have got this far.
148 posted on 03/13/2010 7:43:08 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Maceman; Jim Robinson
That crystallizes, in a nutshell, the difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives see government as a cost that the people must bear. But liberals see people as a cost that the government must bear.

That should be on the Free Republic Masthead.

Outstanding!

149 posted on 03/13/2010 8:04:38 PM PST by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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150 posted on 03/13/2010 8:06:57 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: quesney

151 posted on 03/13/2010 8:16:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Aria

“The reality is that government theft is the norm and at least birth control pills are cheaper and don’t involve killing a human being.”

This is not correct. One of the ways birth control pills work, when ovulation is not suppressed and fertilization of the egg is not prevented, is by preventing the implantation of an already fertilized egg. This happens AFTER conception. Life begins at conception. Thus often times the birth control pill DOES involve killing a human being. The same is true for IUDs, Norplant, Depo-Prevara, etc.


152 posted on 03/13/2010 8:23:40 PM PST by Catholic Iowan
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To: cake_crumb

“There’s also the Pill, the Patch and shots.

Why is it that murdering our unborn children is the only method of “birth control” that liberals deem acceptable? “

The Pill, the Patch and shots can act as abortifacients. These forms of chemical abortions kill our unborn children just as lethally as a surgical abortion. The question I would ask is, “Why is it that pro-lifers who oppose surgical abortion, who claim life begins at conception, don’t understand that millions and millions die each year from chemical abortion?” Is it because these tiniest of human beings are too small to be noticed?


153 posted on 03/13/2010 8:30:00 PM PST by Catholic Iowan
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To: Catholic Iowan

Excellent point. I’ve had this debate multiple times with otherwise pro-lifers.


154 posted on 03/14/2010 12:02:14 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: All; quesney

Let’s send Stupak a thank you note.


155 posted on 03/14/2010 1:48:25 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

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156 posted on 03/14/2010 3:04:00 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: quesney

Stupak makes me VERRRRY uncomfortable. I love that he is standing up to his party on the matter of priciples. But, I am afraid that as soon as the leadership compromises on abortion, he will cave. There are so many things I find objectionable about the legislation. Just fixing abortion won’t make it ok!


157 posted on 03/14/2010 4:09:10 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: quesney

Hey Stupak, if you had any brains at all you would know that abortion is only the tip of the iceberg of disturbind aspects of the Democratic Party. However, you agree with most of them. While I may agree with you on this issue there are so many issues that I disagree with you on that I still hope you lose your bid when re-election time comes up for you. You are no hero to me.


158 posted on 03/14/2010 5:34:50 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: TheOldLady

Point taken...


159 posted on 03/14/2010 5:34:56 AM PDT by ez
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To: quesney

Most countries want a larger population as a source of greater revenue.
“More people will cost too much” bodes ill for a nation’s leadership.


160 posted on 03/14/2010 5:37:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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