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Ryan: Dems Ramming "Shell" HC Bill Through Committee Monday
The American Spectator ^ | 3.11.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Rep. Paul Ryan says that Democrats are ready to ram a "shell" health care bill through the Budget Committee, on which he serves as ranking Republican member, to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.

In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated.

"They don't have the votes right now, but they're creating the vehicle so that they can airdrop in whatever changes they want," Ryan said.

He said that Republicans are outnumbered 2-to-1 on his committee and don't have the votes to stop the bill there. Democrats will also be able to prevent Republicans from offering any amendments, but GOP members will be able to offer "motions to instruct" the Rules Committee, that Ryan said will be used highlight problems with the "unprecedented" step that Democrats are taking.

He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.

He also warned against focusing too much on the reconciliation process in the Senate. "Reconciliation is a distraction," he said. "Once the House passes the Senate bill we have the massive new entitlement."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; communism; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; palin; phantomhealthcare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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To: Windflier

INDEED. IN OUR FACES WITH BRAZEN MIDDLE FINGERS AT US ALL

. . .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


141 posted on 03/11/2010 6:54:06 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RedMDer

I have a die hard liberal relative, gov worker, complaining about furloughs. Boy oh boy, when us shlubs told her the truth about layoffs, her gov bennies, 15% unemployment, etc...... , she got all sheepish, she should be thankful she has a job. The ‘normal’ liberals who interact with us real Americans on a daily basis, well, they just can’t compete with reality. The drive by media, in DC, well, they aren’t America, are they? They feed themselves, they’re cannibals, they’re eating their own. And it’s biting them. The drive by’s are doomed. It’s just a matter of time. And, soon.

Honestly, it’s fun to watch the libs implode.


142 posted on 03/11/2010 6:54:07 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: devolve

YUP.

THEY LOVE UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROCEDURES.

They get a tickle ‘tween their legs over it.

Helps them feel more powerful and longer.

They love shredding the Constitution.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


143 posted on 03/11/2010 6:55:51 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: rockinqsranch

I agree with you wholesale.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


144 posted on 03/11/2010 6:56:29 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marstegreg
What legally can be done to stop this

As Rush says, when you have rules, and Democrats, you have NO rules.

145 posted on 03/11/2010 6:57:28 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Quix

If they do any of these shenanigans to pass this abortion of a bill, we won’t have to wait until November. Congressmen will start disappearing off the streets. The stakeholders in this stand to lose serious money - beyond the capacity of the government to bribe. That won’t sit well. Then there is the mass of the American populace - stoked to such a white heat anger by Limbaugh et. al. (and rightfully so) that the seeds of a violent overthrow will be sown and reaped. I simply cannot believe the Dems are this naive. It has to be pure evil that is driving them now.


146 posted on 03/11/2010 6:58:12 PM PST by Tuxedo (Sheesh....)
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To: Bryan24

Disagree again. It’s all about them with not one iota of care about the Nation, or the populace other than how to use it, and them to their benefit. It’s all about what is good for the Socialist movement only.


147 posted on 03/11/2010 6:59:02 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Sopater
November seems so far away.

I agree. Last month's budget deficit. . this Health Care Bill. . they're talking Amnesty and Cap n' Tax. . Damn, he is trying to Destroy our Country as quickly as possible! Are we going to do nothing?!

148 posted on 03/11/2010 6:59:46 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

People are getting angrier and angrier. When you hear talk of secession openly - legal or not - and people mentioning the word Revolution (and they aren’t long-haired tie-dyed folks) then it’s time to gird the loins.


149 posted on 03/11/2010 7:01:33 PM PST by Tuxedo (Sheesh....)
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To: Tuxedo

Of course it’s pure evil.

Scripture is clear. The global government will be headed by satan.

These quotes document our leaders work toward such over the last 110 years:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


150 posted on 03/11/2010 7:02:09 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I seem to think we’re at the “have” to point. I thank God every day, I have 3 conservative kids, with 3 conservative spouses, and raising 7 (almost 8) conservative grand babies. We’ve done our part to preserve American values despite the government. And, we’ll do everything to protect it. NO MATTER WHAT. PERIOD.


151 posted on 03/11/2010 7:02:23 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: All

Can someone help me with a response to accusations made to me by a liberal today?

This person says that they want health care and want to be able to purchase the same health care that senators have. Says that private insurance industry has let them down and they are uninsurable. They don’t want to be limited to private insurance and want a public option. This person is in favor of some kind of public option that would give them and their employees a chance to purchase health insurance.

Also, this person is claiming that THEY are paying for the healthcare that teachers, administrators, public utility workers and government workers get. Said that workers, like utility workers, are feeding from the “public trough”. This lib says that that is “discrimination”.

They said they would much rather spend their tax dollars on environmental issues and a plan for health insurance and preventative health care. Hates it that their tax dollars go to “Halliburton and the military industrial complex.” And also, “If helping people is socialism then so be it. I actually thought helping people was the Christian, Jewish, Muslim thing to do.” To that I say yes, helping people is the Christian thing to do, but that doesn’t mean it’s the government’s job!

They are also accusing Bush of outspending Obama and that it was Bush who got us into this mess. Yea, one of the “blame Bush” idiots, but where do you begin to educate someone like this? I didn’t like some of Bush’s spending either, but to blame this entire financial crisis on one man is dishonest and downright stupid.

Now I know some of you will say just ignore this person, but honestly, I don’t want to. I’m sick of the distortions, lies, and stupidity spouted by liberals.

If anyone has any advice or good links to some facts I could use, I’d sure appreciate your help.


152 posted on 03/11/2010 7:02:37 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Sopater

Lots of folks think they will be staging WWIII and martial law well before Nov.


153 posted on 03/11/2010 7:02:47 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

agree brother.... I just didn’t think it would be so obvious though...


154 posted on 03/11/2010 7:04:07 PM PST by Tuxedo (Sheesh....)
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To: Indy Pendance

AMEN TO THAT.

JUST KEEP IN MIND . . .

SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS THE MOST POTENT.

THE WEAPONS OF OUR WARFARE ARE NOT CARNAL . . . TO THE PULLING DOWN OF STRONGHOLDS . . .

Of course, I’m all for the 2nd ammendment etc., bearing arms under God’s direction etc., too.


155 posted on 03/11/2010 7:05:32 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

The LIB/DEM zombies need to go...and go they will! Respect those who gave their lives for this wonderful country. Do not allow any of the DIMs to disrespect FREEDOM!


156 posted on 03/11/2010 7:05:53 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: All

I should add that this liberal has absolutely NO respect for our military and has told me before that there is never a good excuse for war. Yea, we’re talkin’ about a card-carrying leftist with an arrogant attitude to boot.


157 posted on 03/11/2010 7:06:08 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Quix

Bring it on. Seriously, Bring it on. I’m ready. I’ve made peace with God. I’m ready to protect and defend our country. Just get by me, my God, my family, my country, and my 45.


158 posted on 03/11/2010 7:06:20 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Tuxedo

Their dumbing down of the general populace as well as their massive mind control propaganda efforts the last 100 years have made their job a LOT easier.

Read in those quotes how they talked about controlling the population secretly vis a vis psychology etc.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


159 posted on 03/11/2010 7:07:13 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the Link


160 posted on 03/11/2010 7:10:27 PM PST by Tuxedo (Sheesh....)
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