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Ryan: Dems Ramming "Shell" HC Bill Through Committee Monday
The American Spectator ^ | 3.11.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Rep. Paul Ryan says that Democrats are ready to ram a "shell" health care bill through the Budget Committee, on which he serves as ranking Republican member, to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.

In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated.

"They don't have the votes right now, but they're creating the vehicle so that they can airdrop in whatever changes they want," Ryan said.

He said that Republicans are outnumbered 2-to-1 on his committee and don't have the votes to stop the bill there. Democrats will also be able to prevent Republicans from offering any amendments, but GOP members will be able to offer "motions to instruct" the Rules Committee, that Ryan said will be used highlight problems with the "unprecedented" step that Democrats are taking.

He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.

He also warned against focusing too much on the reconciliation process in the Senate. "Reconciliation is a distraction," he said. "Once the House passes the Senate bill we have the massive new entitlement."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; communism; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; palin; phantomhealthcare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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1 posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:05 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

BYE BYE DEMS in 2010.

2 posted on 03/11/2010 3:50:36 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: BarnacleCenturion; 50cal Smokepole; Terabitten; jellybean; Madison Moose; youngjim; ...
Wisconsin Conservative Politics Ping List Ping!
3 posted on 03/11/2010 3:51:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Fascinating how the democrats think that giving the middle finger to We The People is a good idea.

Hey democrats!

You @ssholes are FINISHED come November!!!!!!!!

4 posted on 03/11/2010 3:53:02 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: historyrepeatz; Diana in Wisconsin

November seems so far away.

5 posted on 03/11/2010 3:57:08 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Can this stand as consitutional?
Can this survive scutiny?
What legally can be done to stop this, this is stretching rules to the breaking point? I think my head will explode.

6 posted on 03/11/2010 3:59:44 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Ugh...we need lots of people to do spiritual warfare in the Heavenlies over the weekend to stop this thing.

Dear God...please INTERVENE!!!!

7 posted on 03/11/2010 4:00:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: Prole

“You @ssholes are FINISHED come November!!!!!!!! “

Indeed, they are. But they will have created a new entitlement program, which, as we know, are very difficult to eliminate.

They must be stopped.

8 posted on 03/11/2010 4:00:39 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Time to retire early to work full-time against these crazy people.

9 posted on 03/11/2010 4:00:46 PM PST by FreedBird (D)
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To: what's up

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”


10 posted on 03/11/2010 4:01:18 PM PST by Mr. Wright ( in)
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To: Mr. Wright
Here's a quote from Norman's son Evan writing in Newsweek a few months back:

"We're all socialists now."

11 posted on 03/11/2010 4:04:53 PM PST by what's up
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This could get ugly.

BTW you make some good cookies in Ripon.

12 posted on 03/11/2010 4:07:01 PM PST by tractorman
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To: Sopater

For the first time in my 58 years I’m willing to skip summer to go vote.

13 posted on 03/11/2010 4:09:01 PM PST by tractorman
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To: BarnacleCenturion

All Mr. Ryan has to do is to ask the House parlimentarian for a ruling that this ‘shell’ is OUT OF ORDER and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Joe Biden can’t fire the HOUSE parlimentarian.....DOH!!

It’s dead Jim.

14 posted on 03/11/2010 4:12:59 PM PST by bigoil
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To: what's up


15 posted on 03/11/2010 4:13:39 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 91:4 ~ Under His Wings ~)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

A phantom bill for phantom healthcare: perfect. How about making it an invisible bill too? Prez can sign with invisible pen, everyone’s happy, and then let’s get on with America as we are supposed to be.

16 posted on 03/11/2010 4:15:31 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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To: tractorman
I truly believe the Alinsky Communist Party thinks we will simply get tired & roll over. I truly believe we are heading for a civil war. SOON!


17 posted on 03/11/2010 4:16:37 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: bigoil

I agree, this is a long shot and a desperate act by Barry and the dim’s.

18 posted on 03/11/2010 4:17:08 PM PST by TJC
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
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Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
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Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
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Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
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Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
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Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
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senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
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Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)

19 posted on 03/11/2010 4:17:09 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: FreedBird

Here is another bad thought — after Obamacare, next thing to be rammed up our collective butts is Immigration Reform.
We all know what that means with the RATS in charge.
Every illegal will get a FREE PASS!

20 posted on 03/11/2010 4:17:21 PM PST by Mr. Wright ( in)
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