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Glenn Beck calls Geert Wilders a fascist, endorses ban on his entering UK
Jihad Watch ^ | 9 March 10 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/09/2010 4:35:07 AM PST by LSUfan

What on earth has gotten into Beck? Is he getting his talking points from Ibrahim Hooper? As Pamela Geller says, "Why would he stigmatize Wilders this way? Wilders is the embodiment of what our founding fathers extolled. Individual rights. Freedom of speech. Not sharia law."

Beck should have more sense.

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To: Titus-Maximus

Oh, Puleeze!

If A = B
and B = C
then A = C

He may not have directly used his name, but it was SURELY in the next sentence and you can see it in the video link I posted


61 posted on 03/09/2010 6:40:55 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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To: LSUfan

Geert Wilders and KSM are both equally bad. Dims and Republicans are both bad.
Don’t blame Beck’s stupid comment on any Saudi minority ownership of Fox. Hannity, BOR etc don’t make such stupid statements.
This utter lack of discernment by Beck is part of an appalling pattern. Confusing degrees of disagreements is indeed quite dangerous. We all go through life dealing with people of various points of view. But my God, we ought to be able to tell the difference between people that we can deal with and people that must be vigorously opposed.
This is not a brain fart, this is a brain poop; a distorted pattern of thinking.


62 posted on 03/09/2010 6:42:21 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Titus-Maximus
But what did he say the two different extremes were? I thought I heard him identify them as socialism and fascism as if they were diametrically opposed to one another. That is nonsense.
63 posted on 03/09/2010 6:43:03 AM PST by FourPeas (servantscenter.org -- Jesus' hands and feet on the streets serving those in need)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“Arab investors don’t control FoxNews.”

Let me hear you undo this simple statement:
Murdoch has contractual ties (that are already contractually destined to grow) with the family of the King of Saudi Arabia, who is globally regarded as the number ONE influence in all of Islam.

Now tell me who controls who....


64 posted on 03/09/2010 6:50:34 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: Wilum

I watch Fox every morning for 30 minutes while working out. They are becoming more like CNN all of the time.


65 posted on 03/09/2010 6:54:43 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: 2Wheels
Let me see you provide me with a source and a link to said contracts or a description of their/its content from a reliable source.

Otherwise, all you have is hearsay and no one is going to waste time speculating on unfounded rumor.

66 posted on 03/09/2010 6:58:27 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: 2Wheels
Murdoch making contractual agreements with the ‘kingdom’ of Islam is nothing more than covering his arse for the future because he knows where the steamroller is and who’s driving it and has aligned himself where he can be most protected.

Stop spreading such unfounded rumor!

If what you say is true, give us your source.

67 posted on 03/09/2010 7:00:51 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: grumpygresh
Geert Wilders Geert Wilders is the man of the hour. Sure he puts his pants on one leg at a time, sure he ain't perfect, but he is the man making a difference in our favor. He is the man that is standing up to Mohammedan intimidation. Wilders deserves our enthusiastic support.
68 posted on 03/09/2010 7:03:48 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Wilum

“I, also have noticed a shift at Fox and it’s really bothering me as we have no other (TV) media we can turn to.”

And there you have it. I would not trust anything on MSM at this point. Period. I used to swear by Foxnews (erroniously), but over the last year with alot more reading and digging - the light came on and now we are all seeing the results.
We are and have been scammed by the money machine behind politics and power. Yet nothing new, is it?
Maybe I just wanted to believe Fox was “fair and balanced” when in fact - they are (obviously) owned by one man who can make it swing wherever he wishes for it to go.

We are in deep dookey. Read from many sources and draw your own conclusions. MSM is dead.


69 posted on 03/09/2010 7:06:41 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

If this is where you are - then you obviously do not read quite enough and I will not waste my time providing you links. Get out and read more. The data is present.

And then we’d play the game of who IS a reliable source wouldn’t we?!

Have a nice day!


70 posted on 03/09/2010 7:11:01 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: Monterrosa-24

I agree with you. Wilders is the real thing. A European conservative fighting both Islamic fascism and liberalism in a tri-polar world.
Wilders is taking the principled stand and Beck is the opportunist and phony.


71 posted on 03/09/2010 7:13:02 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: RaceBannon

I saw it myself......dat’s what he said.....


72 posted on 03/09/2010 7:14:08 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: 2Wheels
I'm not playing games.

Your contractual agreement may have been nothing more than an options agreement sold by Murdoch to Alwaleed to buy more shares (on the open market) and that is what has happened.

You toss around empty words like you expect them to have meaning to people.

You accuse Murdoch of entering into a contract without specifying the nature, value, duration of such contract. If you expect to be taken seriously, provide some source for your wild accusations.

And while you are on the subject...reliability of source is an important matter for serious people.

All this said, you may be perfectly correct in what you say...but you can't expect for your statements to have weight and be taken seriously unless people are able to evaluate their source (and a poster tossing out opinions on FR is not a source).

I don't think that is too much to ask for.

73 posted on 03/09/2010 7:27:11 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: LSUfan

He’s getting too full of himself. I disenrolled from his email list after some other things began to sound pretty ‘out there’. He hates Palin, the ‘tea partiers’, and other good conservatives. While he might have some good points on some issues, the more I hear, the more I dislike him over all. Started well, but it’s how you end that counts.


74 posted on 03/09/2010 7:27:54 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: newfreep
Beck is a Ron Paul idiot.

Beck is very critical of Ron Paul. You obviously don't listen to his program.

75 posted on 03/09/2010 7:33:36 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

SonofDarkSkies.....

Here is one of many links. The links aren’t important here tho. It is you not wanting to believe something like this could be possible, right? Just filthy ‘rumors’.
If you are incapable of reading between these lines and projecting just a little way out into the future - you are already OWNED.

Are you actually going to assume Islam plays no role in this power orgy with the NUMBER ONE family of Islam? Do you believe Murdoch would sign the dotted line thinking the Islam factor is just something ‘off to the side’ and is not woven into all contractual relationships? (Whether in writing or not!)
I apologize if this link is inadequate for your research. You already have some of this data, but aren’t hearing the message, IMO.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010

A Deeply Troubling Alliance Deepens: FOX and the Saudis

“Now more than ever, we need an independent media. In the “information battle space,” the playing field is heavily weighted in favor of the enemy.

Prince Alwaleed told Arab News that the deal was not cash-driven. It went “way beyond finance.” Rotana, which owns the largest record label in the Arab world and 11 television channels, was “fully financed,” he said.

Alwaleed owns 7% of Fox and a large percentage of Obama too.

Murdoch Buys into Rotona Arab News (hat tip seeteuful)

RIYADH: News Corp, the media empire owned by Rupert Murdoch, is to buy a 9.09-percent stake in Rotana, the Saudi-based Middle Eastern music and entertainment group wholly owned by Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

The $70 million deal, announced at a news conference by the prince at his Kingdom Tower headquarters in Riyadh on Tuesday, deepens the burgeoning partnership between the two media moguls. Prince Alwaleed already holds a seven-percent stake in News Corp, whose stable includes 20th Century Fox, Fox News, the New York Post, the London Times and Sky TV.

Under the agreement, News Corp has an option to acquire a further 9.09-percent stake in Rotana. The option will run for 18 months after the deal is signed.

New Corp has been seeking to expand its presence in the growing Middle Eastern entertainment market for some time and has been considering a number of ventures in partnership with the prince’s Kingdom Holding Company (KHC). Five months ago it was reported in the Wall Street Journal that the Murdoch group was looking at a 20-percent stake in Rotana.

Prince Alwaleed told Arab News that the deal was not cash-driven. It went “way beyond finance.” Rotana, which owns the largest record label in the Arab world and 11 television channels, was “fully financed” he said. The deal was about News Corp’s confidence in Rotana and commitment to it. It will enable the media group to gain from News Corp’s experience in movie production, television, the news media and technology. He spoke of its providing a “qualitative leap” not just for Rotana but for the Arab world.

The prince said that the deal would strengthen the existing relationship with News Corp — “building Rotana’s presence across the region and expanding its reach to the Arab diaspora around the world.”

In a prepared statement, Rupert Murdoch’s son James, who heads News Corp’s European and Asian arm, said that the newly acquired stake would help his company expand its presence in “a region with a young and growing population where GDP is set to outstrip that of more developed economies in the years ahead.”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/02/a-deeply-troubling-alliance-deepens-fox-and-the-saudis.html


76 posted on 03/09/2010 7:34:34 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: cizinec; newfreep
Beck is unstable and growing more unstable, primarily because he doesn’t have the discipline to listen, even when it’s in his best interest. He does some research, makes an opinion and, in his mind, the debate is over.

Which is precisely why he and Bill O'Reilly are such buddys.

77 posted on 03/09/2010 7:37:14 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: LSUfan
Beck has his marching orders. Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud holds an effective controlling interest in News Corp, which owns Fox.

No anti-Islamic coverage will be tolerated.

78 posted on 03/09/2010 7:38:50 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: LSUfan; Robert Spencer; All
Very interesting video and comments there and here.

...because whoever is ruling now in any country...no matter what...as the economy tanks and they spend all this money...it doesn't matter if they're right or left...as they tank they're going to become extra-ordinarily unpopular...

Well deserved unpopularity for them, Glenn. As it should be.

"It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder." - "The Results of Legal Plunder" The Law - Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

The left is communism, the right is fascism.

All left and no right(s of individuals) there Glenn. They are both collectivism/statism.

Europe is making the same mistake they did at the turn of the century.

They already did, Glenn. It called the EU. UNaccountable bureaucrats cobbled together by collectivists whose charter does not place limits on itself thereby denying the rights of individuals against the collective, any collective...including itself.

The biggest problem - the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collective in the history of civilization is Islam. It permeates/supercedes all other collectives.

Geert Wilders is not the problem.

HOORAY Glenn Beck! HOORAY Robert Spencer! Thanks to all posters.

79 posted on 03/09/2010 7:40:04 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Third Person; LSUfan
It’s the Fox directive...on Special Report last night Krauthammer, A.B. Stoddard, and (to a lesser extent) Bill Kristol denounced Wilders as a demagogue.

Charles Krauthammer certainly has no standing to lecture anyone about fascism or demagoguery:

"Ultimately, a civilized society must disarm its citizenry if it is to have a modicum of domestic tranquility of the kind enjoyed by sister democracies such as Canada and Britain. Given the frontier history and individualist ideology of the United States, however, this will not come easily. It certainly cannot be done radically. It will probably take one, maybe two generations. It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today. Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic - purely symbolic - move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation." - Charles Krauthammer, "Disarm the Citizenry," The Washington Post, Friday, April 5, 1996, page A19

He has never recanted nor apologized for this statement. Krauthammer may be a lot of things, but he is no friend of the Constitution or Bill of Rights.

80 posted on 03/09/2010 7:47:40 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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