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Mike Huckabee Rips CPAC For Becoming ‘More Libertarian’ (Yay mike)
Personal Liberty Digest ^ | February 26, 2010

Posted on 02/26/2010 11:44:15 AM PST by presidio9

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To: conservativemusician
That’s a distinction with little difference.

Mainstream libertarian positions:

Pro Abortion

Pro Gay Marriage

Opposed to the War On Terror

Pro Immigration

Pro legalization of ALL drugs

Now, because I just posted this, a couple of nutjob libertarians are goging to claim that they personally reject some or all of those positions (or they are going to direct me to a website like libertarians4life.com), but it won't matter. Because the MAJORITY of people who call themselves libertarians believe in those things. So in order to agree on a libertarian canididate, you're going to end up with most of them.

41 posted on 02/26/2010 12:24:36 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: All
On this one, I'm with Huck. In fact I liked him a lot until his mouth became brown from kissing McAca's a** right after the election. I simply can not be for anyone who supports the WEASEL from AZ. But then again, same thing with Sarah... She lost a lot of points with me for the same reason... But I still have hopes from her in the future we'll see. I'm very pleased I have not seen her closed to the WEAZEL as I thought she would be. It could be she realized she could lose a lot by going against her base... I'm hopeful

But again, actions have meaning and therefore CONSEQUENCES. CPAC is cleary going for the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA... Of course, they packaged it carefully as "GOProud" = queer "conservatives." They think this is the angle to bring them into the conservative camp.

Of course, the CONSERVATIVE label APPARENTLY can be applied to anything nowadays! even to HOMOSEXUALS :) Well, not in my book. I am a SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE. The CONSERVATIVE part stands for CONSERVING MORAL TRADITIONAL VALUES principally.

So, good bye CPAC!

42 posted on 02/26/2010 12:25:51 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church (...Actually I'm hearing MORE from RCC now! ....) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: presidio9
Yep. Ole Ron knew what was right.
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is________________ Ronald Reagan
43 posted on 02/26/2010 12:29:29 PM PST by Redhd2
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To: presidio9

If Huckabee is a “conservative” Republican, I’m definitely a libertarian one.


44 posted on 02/26/2010 12:29:40 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: presidio9

Well said. I remain optimisitic, but I wouldn’t be willing to make a wager!

I do think the very term LIBERTARIAN is being redefined to be closer to the Tea Party’s vision. Beware the label...


45 posted on 02/26/2010 12:30:21 PM PST by wizard61 (Hack the Narrative!)
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To: presidio9; All

Mike Huckabee Rips CPAC For Becoming ‘More Libertarian’
______________________________________________________________
And in other news, CPAC ripped the ugly, old, fat, hillbilly Mike Huckabee today for sucking up to the Obamas to get Michelle on his hokey TV show and for being too freakin’ Liberal.

Now, back to you.


46 posted on 02/26/2010 12:33:04 PM PST by no dems (If you think Obama is a better President than Sarah Palin would be, lay down the crack pipe.)
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To: presidio9
And you do understand that we need all types of Republicans voting for Republicans to win, don't you?

Your definitions are silly. Unless you're here advocating for a party that nobody but your progressive little buddies like Romney and Huckabee belong to, you need to accept that some people might view the world differently than you do and move forward where there is agreement.

There are kooky loon libertarians and then there are people who are conservative with a libertarian bent, and vice versa. None of the latter, like myself, take kindly to your broad brush. As a conservative, I take issue with the idea that I supposedly somehow want the government intruding into my life. Maybe I'm not a conservative then, because I want the government out of my life. I find myself agreeing more and more with libertarian philosophies every day. Frankly, even the foreign policy stuff. The Paulites want full pullouts from everywhere immediately, which is kookville. But, if you know your history, you know that interventionist foreign policy is a liberal, leftist, progressive idea introduced by Woodrow Wilson. It isn't a conservative idea at all.

Does that mean we should pull out of everywhere tomorrow? Heck no. It took us over 100 years to get to this point, but starting to reign some non-essential things in slowly wouldn't hurt. Does it mean we shouldn't stomp anyone who messes with us into dust and then stomp on them again for good measure? Hell no! Of course we should. While we're at it, we should grow some guts and actually win the damn war instead of trying to fight some politically correct game of tag broadcast live on CNN.

What it does mean is that I personally feel that by providing military support to much of the world, we are effectively redistributing our wealth to those countries. They get to bask in the shelter that we provide while embarking on grand socialist experiments, while their people look down their nose at the people breaking their backs to pay the bill: the American Taxpayers.

I'm against wealth redistribution to anyone.

Then, there are social issues. One doesn't have to be for the gay agenda to not give a damn about what gays do. I couldn't possibly care less about what two men want to do in the privacy of their own home. Just don't force it on me, and STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MY KIDS. But when it comes to condemning people for their lifestyle choices that have no affect on me whatsoever, I find it counterproductive.

Abortion is an issue of life; a moral issue. Libertarians argue amongst themselves about it, but usually the only ones who don't recognize that 'life' is part of 'life, liberty, and property' are just too cowed by the feminists to fight that particular fight. Personally, I feel that if we can't stand up for human beings who can't stand up for themselves, that we should be ashamed of ourselves. Others may have differing opinions. In the meantime, Roe V Wade needs to be overturned. Not only is it responsible for a literal holocaust, but it is an example of the kinds of activist judicial decisions that force a people to live under tyranny. That they have people hoodwinked into 'protecting' this horrid decision by voting for Democrats who will appoint judges that will destroy freedom and take away God given rights while providing that 'protection' is one of the tragedies of the modern era.

I want the government out of my life and out of my pocket as much as possible. I'm tired of the nanny state telling me how to buckle my family into my car. I'm tired of laws being used to intrude into every aspect of my life, from the kind of light bulbs I use to the kind of car I choose to drive.

I don't support open borders, nannyism, furloughs for murderers, or governors who beg legislatures to raise taxes, so I can see why Mike Huckabee doesn't like me.

But if the rest of you want to drive me out of the party, I'll wager that there are more of my type of conservative in the party than yours. If you're successful, your party will be one hell of a lot smaller and will never win another national election again. So tread carefully.

47 posted on 02/26/2010 12:34:34 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: presidio9

“They never said anything about the government leaving them alone. That’s the libertarian position.”

Gosh, you mean you want to tell everyone how to live their lives? What makes you the man with the answers?

I prefer to have the government involved in my life at a minimum as defined in the Constitution. The rest I can take care of myself.


48 posted on 02/26/2010 12:34:48 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (The Constitution is the issue, other issues are small potatoes. If we fail none will matter.)
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To: presidio9
And you do understand that we need all types of Republicans voting for Republicans to win, don't you?

Your definitions are silly. Unless you're here advocating for a party that nobody but your progressive little buddies like Romney and Huckabee belong to, you need to accept that some people might view the world differently than you do and move forward where there is agreement.

There are kooky loon libertarians and then there are people who are conservative with a libertarian bent, and vice versa. None of the latter, like myself, take kindly to your broad brush. As a conservative, I take issue with the idea that I supposedly somehow want the government intruding into my life. Maybe I'm not a conservative then, because I want the government out of my life. I find myself agreeing more and more with libertarian philosophies every day. Frankly, even the foreign policy stuff. The Paulites want full pullouts from everywhere immediately, which is kookville. But, if you know your history, you know that interventionist foreign policy is a liberal, leftist, progressive idea introduced by Woodrow Wilson. It isn't a conservative idea at all.

Does that mean we should pull out of everywhere tomorrow? Heck no. It took us over 100 years to get to this point, but starting to reign some non-essential things in slowly wouldn't hurt. Does it mean we shouldn't stomp anyone who messes with us into dust and then stomp on them again for good measure? Hell no! Of course we should. While we're at it, we should grow some guts and actually win the damn war instead of trying to fight some politically correct game of tag broadcast live on CNN.

What it does mean is that I personally feel that by providing military support to much of the world, we are effectively redistributing our wealth to those countries. They get to bask in the shelter that we provide while embarking on grand socialist experiments, while their people look down their nose at the people breaking their backs to pay the bill: the American Taxpayers.

I'm against wealth redistribution to anyone.

Then, there are social issues. One doesn't have to be for the gay agenda to not give a damn about what gays do. I couldn't possibly care less about what two men want to do in the privacy of their own home. Just don't force it on me, and STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MY KIDS. But when it comes to condemning people for their lifestyle choices that have no affect on me whatsoever, I find it counterproductive.

Abortion is an issue of life; a moral issue. Libertarians argue amongst themselves about it, but usually the only ones who don't recognize that 'life' is part of 'life, liberty, and property' are just too cowed by the feminists to fight that particular fight. Personally, I feel that if we can't stand up for human beings who can't stand up for themselves, that we should be ashamed of ourselves. Others may have differing opinions. In the meantime, Roe V Wade needs to be overturned. Not only is it responsible for a literal holocaust, but it is an example of the kinds of activist judicial decisions that force a people to live under tyranny. That they have people hoodwinked into 'protecting' this horrid decision by voting for Democrats who will appoint judges that will destroy freedom and take away God given rights while providing that 'protection' is one of the tragedies of the modern era.

I want the government out of my life and out of my pocket as much as possible. I'm tired of the nanny state telling me how to buckle my family into my car. I'm tired of laws being used to intrude into every aspect of my life, from the kind of light bulbs I use to the kind of car I choose to drive.

I don't support open borders, nannyism, furloughs for murderers, or governors who beg legislatures to raise taxes, so I can see why Mike Huckabee doesn't like me.

But if the rest of you want to drive me out of the party, I'll wager that there are more of my type of conservative in the party than yours. If you're successful, your party will be one hell of a lot smaller and will never win another national election again. So tread carefully.

49 posted on 02/26/2010 12:38:52 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: presidio9

“they just liked disagreeing with their professors once in a while”

Interesting definition of anarchy. This is what scares me about the Theocrat variety of Republicans. I am right no matter what you say.


50 posted on 02/26/2010 12:39:37 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (The Constitution is the issue, other issues are small potatoes. If we fail none will matter.)
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To: Onerom99
Get Lost Huck.. Take the Social Conservative Socialists with you.

Famous "Social Conservatives" (by libertarian standards):

Ronald Reagan

Barry Goldwater

William F. Buckley Jr.

Winston Churchill

Margaret Thatcher

Teddy Roosevelt

Abraham Lincoln

Are you sure I'm the one who needs to "get lost?"

51 posted on 02/26/2010 12:39:45 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Joe Boucher

>>Until and unless the Republican party gets rid of RINO turds like Huckabee, Crist, Graham, Romney etc. they can go fish.
I am a conservative and will ONLY vote for conservatives from now on.
You bastards foist RINO slime like McLame on us again and I’ll abstain.

AMEN and well-said!!!!!!!!!!!


52 posted on 02/26/2010 12:40:32 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: presidio9
Huckabee said that CPAC has become "more libertarian and less Republican over the last few years, one of the reasons why I [did not attend the event] this year."

And to think that I was a Huckster during the primaries. It's serves no good purpose to draw distinctions between people who love liberty. Huck could speak out against libertines and sin all day and I would say amen. So stay home Huck, we hardly knew ya.

Galatians 5
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

53 posted on 02/26/2010 12:47:56 PM PST by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: grumpa

Libertarian = Pot smoking conservative.


54 posted on 02/26/2010 12:49:38 PM PST by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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To: wizard61

Libertarians are not the enemy of Conservatism. Libertarianism is a “big tent” party. I know lots of libertarians who are pro-life, and pro-family. The vast majority of the tea party libertarians fall into that “conservative” libertarianism. The drug legalization, gay marriage, prostitution wing of the libertarian movement is a minority. Yes, they sometimes scream the loudest and get a lot of attention like at CPAC, but I would wager even the majority of the Paul-bots subscribe to conseravtive values. Recently, several GOP leaders have spoke out harshly against the libertarian influence in the GOP and in the tea party movement. If Life is your hot button issue you need to make the point that their is nothing libertarian about aborting another human being, if gay marriage is your hot button you nee to make the point that there is nothing libertarian about enacting federal and state legislation to further regulate marriage or give special rights to protected classes. The GOP cannot win big without libertarian support. They agree with us 90% of the time and they will never be a large enough portion of the GOP to make their wackier ideas a part of the agenda.


55 posted on 02/26/2010 12:49:55 PM PST by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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OOOOPppsss....sorry for double posting but some some server somewhere is chocking up and not working correctly.


56 posted on 02/26/2010 12:50:06 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church (...Actually I'm hearing MORE from RCC now! ....) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: GunRunner
If Huckabee is a “conservative” Republican, I’m definitely a libertarian one.

Actually, nobody here even suggested that Huckabee was a Conservative. His point was still correct that libertarians don't belong at Conservative political conferences. They don't belong on this website either.

57 posted on 02/26/2010 12:52:23 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: ElPatriota

The following statement was adopted in December 1964.

• We believe that the Constitution of the United States is the best political charter yet created by men for governing themselves. It is our belief that the Constitution is designed to guarantee the free exercise of the inherent rights of the individual through strictly limiting the power of government.

• We reaffirm our belief in the Declaration of Independence, and in particular the belief that our inherent rights are endowed by the Creator. We further believe that our liberties can remain secure only if government is so limited that it cannot infringe upon those rights.

• We believe that capitalism is the only economic system of our time that is compatible with political liberty. It has not only brought a higher standard of living to a greater number of people than any other economic system in the history of mankind; more important, it has been a decisive instrument in preserving freedom through maintaining private control of economic power and thus limiting the power of government.

• We believe that collectivism and capitalism are incompatible, and that when government competes with capitalism, it jeopardizes the natural economic growth of our society and the well-being and freedom of the citizenry.

• We believe that it is the responsibility of the individual citizen, whenever his inherent rights are threatened from within or without, to join together with other individuals to protect these rights, or, when they have been temporarily lost, to regain them.

• We believe that any responsible conservative organization must conduct itself within the framework of the Constitution; in pursuance of this belief we refuse to countenance any actions which conflict in any way with the traditions of the American political system.

• The American Conservative Union is created to realize these ends through the cooperation in responsible political action, of all Americans who cherish the principles upon which the Republic was founded.

• The American Conservative Union will welcome all Americans who are prepared to fight for the realization and preservation of these principles through political action at the local, state and national level.


58 posted on 02/26/2010 12:52:47 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: DManA
Huck better stick with the bass.


'Cuz the tune he is now playing sounds like a screeching fiddle.

59 posted on 02/26/2010 12:52:51 PM PST by pointsal ( try MagicJack if you have had enough of Verizon)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
Gosh, you mean you want to tell everyone how to live their lives? What makes you the man with the answers?

That's a ridiculous jump you just made, so I'll feel free to ignore it.

60 posted on 02/26/2010 12:54:29 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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