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Gun Instructor Accidentally Shoots Student [FL]
wftv ^ | 20-Feb-2010

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:09:53 PM PST by stainlessbanner

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An instructor teaching a concealed weapons safety class accidentally shot one of his participants in Orlando.

The class was being held at the Summit Church on Herndon Avenue, but the church was not sponsoring the class. The class was a NRA Concealed Weapons Safety Course.

Orlando police say Michael Phillips was teaching the class, when his gun accidentally went off, and shot Robert Frauman, Junior.

Frauman was shot in the foot. He was taken to the hospital, and is expected to recover.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunowner; rkba
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To: stylin19a; Eaker; Tijeras_Slim; Larry Lucido; humblegunner

Eaker was shot in his Orlando once.....still limps a wee bit.


101 posted on 02/22/2010 4:26:56 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: QBFimi
Well, if one believes in the words of the second amendment, "shall not be infringed", no course or permit should be required.

Dummies should just be held accountable for their "mistakes", be they with a handgun, or a 392 Hemi V-8.

And of course, just because the LAW doesn't require a course, doesn't mean that taking one, a good one, isn't a Good Idea. Personally, I'd like one that has more about using a concealed weapon, under what circumstances it's legally justified for example, and less about the minutia of the law about where one can and can not carry, than the curriculium for the Texas CHL classes contains.

102 posted on 02/22/2010 4:32:20 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
If it was an NRA approved course the policy is no live ammo in the classroom, only at a range when ready for shooting.

Stuff like this is exactly what Sarah Brady lives to hear!

103 posted on 02/22/2010 4:38:04 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Squantos

I don’t mind ya tellin’ folks as long as you don’t post the damn pictures!


104 posted on 02/22/2010 4:42:31 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Kozak
Uh my CCL class in NC involved shooting our weapons to demonstrate proficiency. That means live ammo. PLEASE don't tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....

Generally speaking the classroom and the range are not the same place, although I've seen some that are mightly close. In fact the range were I took my CHL, now conducts the class outdoors, right behind the range, inside berms, with a sun shade over most of the area. It is in San Antonio, Texas after all. Alhtough when I took the class, the "classroom" was in a double wide trailer, and we walked out to the range, in the mist and muck.

When I renewed, I was too far from SA, so I took the class in a nice new building, in towards Austin, where the "school", shared a very nice facility with other users. But I shot for score at the same range that a certain Major Hassan used. Unlike Major Hassan, I did not take the course there, just used the range.

105 posted on 02/22/2010 4:46:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: nnn0jeh

oopsie ping


106 posted on 02/22/2010 4:47:32 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: chaosagent
Fill out a one page form for the FBI background check. When it comes back clean (same day or next day), pay the sheriff $10 and he gives you your temporary CCW. About a week later your permanent one shows up in the mail.

VT and AK don't require a license/permit, although AK still issues one, which has reciprocity in many other states. I seem to recall there is at least one more state where that is true, and there are several where carrying openly is not against the law, and requires no license or permit.

107 posted on 02/22/2010 4:50:46 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Squantos; Eaker
Eaker was shot in his Orlando once.....still limps a wee bit.

Shot in his Orlando? I'd think he'd wee a bit limply.

108 posted on 02/22/2010 4:54:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Squantos; stylin19a; Eaker; Tijeras_Slim; humblegunner; sit-rep

I thought Eaker shot Tony Orlando.


109 posted on 02/22/2010 7:03:46 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido; Squantos; stylin19a; Eaker; Tijeras_Slim; humblegunner; sit-rep
I thought Eaker shot Tony Orlando.

It was first thing in the morning ......... at the crack of dawn!

110 posted on 02/22/2010 7:10:22 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: bgill

Maybe not deadly if given prompt treatment, but because of all the bones in your feet, you will probably walk with a limp the rest of your life.


111 posted on 02/22/2010 7:13:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: calex59

I didn’t address your points because your attack had nothing to do with what I wrote. Now go and tell the supreme court that all those gun laws are unconstitutional and see what they say. I’ll give you a hint: they don’t agree with you, and as long as you spout hatred of all who aren’t you, they never will.

Even if they did, a little firearms training goes a long way, which was the point of my comment, and one that you seem to be too terminally pissed off to understand. Tommorrow, I’ll post some pictures of the bullet holes in our floor and walls, so that everyone else can see what happens when unsafe people play with guns. You won’t get it. You can take some solace in the fact that lots of people have been thrown out of the store, howling about their second amendment right to wave a loaded gun around in a crowd like it was a crayon.

But you’ll still be wrong. Your second amendment rights end when you endanger the lives of the people around you. You have a right to liberty, too, and your right to liberty ends when you cross the threshhold of your neighbor’s home. You may also find out that having a gun and knowing how to use it are not the same things. That right does not confer any knowledge at all. A person who carries a gun with no clue how to use it is a danger to himself first, and in that respect, those instructors failed their students and cheated them. We get those people when they realize that they have no idea how to load, unload, or aim their guns.

All they have is a false sense of security and a warm feeling inside. It’s a lovely, liberal idea that you have espoused repeatedly. You’ll also find that your right to free speech does not include libel, which is what your statements are. And I think you know right now that I am not your “buddy.”


112 posted on 02/22/2010 7:25:29 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
I don't think the use and safety of firearms is one of them.

Does God give us a right of self-sefense?

113 posted on 02/22/2010 7:38:30 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

114 posted on 02/22/2010 8:06:13 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Does God give us the right to defend that life?

115 posted on 02/22/2010 8:10:28 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

And to add, these are "among" the rights granted to us by our creator.

I'm not sure if you meant that list to be exhaustive or not.

116 posted on 02/22/2010 8:16:01 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
U-2012>Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Does God give us the right to defend that life?

Absolutely !

117 posted on 02/22/2010 8:18:01 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: stainlessbanner
He shoulda kept his bullet in his pocket.


118 posted on 02/22/2010 8:20:16 PM PST by peteram
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To: stainlessbanner
He shoulda kept his bullet in his pocket.


119 posted on 02/22/2010 8:20:53 PM PST by peteram
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To: peteram

Sorry...double clutched it.
....Oh Admin Moderator! Cleanup on aisle 3.....


120 posted on 02/22/2010 8:21:59 PM PST by peteram
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