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For Students at Risk, Early College Proves a Draw
New York Times ^ | February 7, 2010 | Tamar Lewin

Posted on 02/08/2010 5:29:30 AM PST by reaganaut1

Precious Holt, a 12th grader with dangly earrings and a SpongeBob pillow, climbs on the yellow school bus and promptly falls asleep for the hour-plus ride to Sandhills Community College.

When the bus arrives, she checks in with a guidance counselor and heads off to a day of college classes, blending with older classmates until 4 p.m., when she and the other seniors from SandHoke Early College High School gather for the ride home.

There is a payoff for the long bus rides: The 48 SandHoke seniors are in a fast-track program that allows them to earn their high-school diploma and up to two years of college credit in five years — completely free.

Until recently, most programs like this were aimed at affluent, overachieving students — a way to keep them challenged and give them a head start on college work. But the goal is quite different at SandHoke, which enrolls only students whose parents do not have college degrees.

Here, and at North Carolina’s other 70 early-college schools, the goal is to keep at-risk students in school by eliminating the divide between high school and college.

“We don’t want the kids who will do well if you drop them in Timbuktu,” said Lakisha Rice, the principal. “We want the ones who need our kind of small setting.”

Results have been impressive. Not all students at North Carolina’s early-college high schools earn two full years of college credit before they graduate — but few drop out.

“Last year, half our early-college high schools had zero dropouts, and that’s just unprecedented for North Carolina, where only 62 percent of our high school students graduate after four years,” said Tony Habit, president of the North Carolina New Schools Project, the nonprofit group spearheading the state’s high school reform.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: college; earlycollege; highschool
This seems to be a worthy program, so why exclude children whose "sin" was to be born to parents who did get college degrees. Call me cynical, but this seems like a way to exclude white and Asian children. I guess "disparate impact" is ok when it hits those groups.

If early college makes sense for "at risk" students, it should make even more sense for the best students.

1 posted on 02/08/2010 5:29:30 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The Left’s idea of “fairness” is one of the fundamental ways in which they go wrong. They make special rules for the people they consider especially deserving — and they call that being fair.


2 posted on 02/08/2010 5:32:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: reaganaut1

This makes sense because a lot of students who come from less than education focused households and poorer households will tend to drop out to get out of their home. If they can get a hold on college and see that it’s not just for ‘the rich kids’, some really smart kids might do well.

I’m also for ending high school in the 11th grade if the kids can pass a graduation test allowing them to move to a community college for a year. Especially since they start school at four years old now.


3 posted on 02/08/2010 5:35:44 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: reaganaut1

Just a few declared ‘goals’ of the Communist Party:

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm


4 posted on 02/08/2010 5:39:21 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: reaganaut1

High school is a waste of time for most students. They should either go on to college or into apprenticeship or vocational training around the age of 15, IMO.

The last couple of years of HS are solely for social purposes and to keep teenagers out of the workforce, and are also - not surprisingly - the years when most of those who are going to get into trouble (or simply drop out) do so.


5 posted on 02/08/2010 5:49:48 AM PST by livius
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great, now they are trying to ruin the colleges.

They never think about how this will impact the good kids at the college who deserve to be there.

Unfortunately, kids tend to degenerate to the lowest common denominator. It is VITAL to keep your kids away from bad influences, their friends have a MUCH greater impact on them than you will as a parent, it's just something about the way we are wired. Most parents instinctively know this and do everything in their power to keep their kids away from the bad ones, but government constantly tries to bring the bad ones to them wherever they flee to.

6 posted on 02/08/2010 5:53:36 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (November is coming.)
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To: livius

I think they should all go to Basic Training or an equivalent for 10 weeks or so, at 14 or 15, and *then* into college, work, or job training.

Programs such as the one in the article (which is also operating in my county) are a backdoor acknowledgement that the current government school model is an educational failure. However, a more open recognition of this would be resisted by the employees, the sports fans, and other constituencies who benefit from the pretense of an educational purpose.


7 posted on 02/08/2010 6:06:59 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Contrary to what politicians expect us to do, let's stop and think. " ~Thomas Sowell, of course)
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To: livius
High school is a waste of time for most students. They should either go on to college or into apprenticeship or vocational training around the age of 15, IMO.

I wholeheartedly agree! We have to change our thinking about a college education. Not every kid is college material...some kids who couldn't muster more than a 2.0 in college might be geniuses with a wrench, and that's just as important as degree. And an apprenticeship or vocational education should be treated on a plane with higher education.

8 posted on 02/08/2010 6:19:13 AM PST by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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Uh Oh! Our community colleges are on the way to becoming high schools.

By the way...

My 3 homeschoolers entered college at the ages of 13,12, and 13. By the age of 15 all three had finished all college general requirements and Calculus III. The two younger earned B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age of 18. The older of these two had a masters in math by 20.

The oldest was also highly successful academically but pursued work and national and international athletic competition. He worked in Eastern Europe for our church and is fluent in Russian. He will earn his MBA soon at an age typical for his institutionalized contemporaries.

My children are normally bright. It is the institutionalized child who is artificially retarded in their social and academic development.

9 posted on 02/08/2010 6:19:15 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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I went to college @ 12. Best thing my parents ever did for me. CSULA EEP program.


10 posted on 02/08/2010 6:20:21 AM PST by rom (Rejoice! The Christ has come!)
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To: livius
"High school is a waste of time for most students. They should either go on to college or into apprenticeship or vocational training around the age of 15, IMO."

Or perhaps we should actually teach high school subjects IN HIGH SCHOOL instead of in the first year or two of college???

My dad (born 1910) only went through the eigth grade, but he had studied subjects that I didn't get until senior year in high school (note..different states...). Public schools have been "dumbed down" by an incredible amount.

11 posted on 02/08/2010 6:29:27 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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High school is a waste of time for most students. They should either go on to college or into apprenticeship or vocational training around the age of 15, IMO.

Could not agree with you more! Those who go to college re-study everything that is taught in high school, those who aren't college material aren't learning it to begin with. The sole potential beneficiary are those who are smart enough to go to college but end up not doing so. That can't be more than 5% or 10% of the student body.

My view is that we ought to have a disciplined two-year college prep program which a student tests into by demonstrating basic knowledge and math / reading aptitude. You can start the program as early as the year in which you turn 12 (i.e., current 7th grade) and as late as the year you turn 15 (i.e., current 10th grade), and go into vocational school if you haven't passed the test by 15. A "night school" version of the prep program should be available for anyone thereafter, at any age, if they can eventually pass the test.
12 posted on 02/08/2010 6:33:32 AM PST by only1percent
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You can start the program as early as the year in which you turn 12 (i.e., current 7th grade)

Why not sooner, if the hypothetical student can pass the test?

13 posted on 02/08/2010 6:37:11 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Contrary to what politicians expect us to do, let's stop and think. " ~Thomas Sowell, of course)
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To: only1percent

Excellent idea!


14 posted on 02/08/2010 7:06:01 AM PST by livius
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To: Wonder Warthog

That is true. Kids should have all their basic learning done by the time they are in 8th grade (around the age of 13-14), and “high school” only exists because the schools have failed to teach them the full curriculum by that time and hope that a few more years will give them time to do so. But by that point, it’s too late.


15 posted on 02/08/2010 7:08:16 AM PST by livius
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To: reaganaut1

just a way to get their hooks into more federal funding streams a year sooner


16 posted on 02/08/2010 7:42:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well put.


17 posted on 02/08/2010 2:54:11 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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