Who Is Behind Quashing the Birth Certificate Issue?

Canada Free Press ^ | August 25, 2009 | Joan Swirsky

[2ndDivisionVet]

Back in October of 2008, when the subject of Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be president of the United States was just a blip on the radar screen of public awareness, I wrote an article about how easy it was to find my then -92-year-old mother’s birth certificate.

Frankly, I didn’t think finding my mother’s birth certificate was possible, given the fact that she had been born in a farmhouse in Storrs, CT, along with nine of her 10 siblings, to parents who didn’t speak English. Despairing that she would never be “qualified” to receive the care [in a nursing home} that she desperately needed, I set about to find the document, which I was sure had vanished in the unreliable record-keeping of 1913. When I called the third number, I explained to the woman who answered the phone that I was “asking something impossible.” I gave her my mother’s first name and her father’s last name. Within four minutes, she said, “Here it is!” When I expressed my amazement, the woman said: “That’s nothing…we’re routinely asked to find birth certificates from the 1800s, and we do that all the time!” Total time it took me to find my mother’s 1913, born-in-a-farmhouse birth certificate: 10 minutes!

Obama was born not in 1913, like my mother, but in 1961—or perhaps in 1957, according to his MySpace page, which would make him 52, born supposedly in Hawaii before it became a state in 1959.(continued)

[Slyfox]

At this point, the issue should be dead. Birth certificate..no birth certificate...long form...short form, blah, blah, blah.

I agree with you, however, the fact that BO may be illegally president of the United States speaks directly to the integrity of the Constitution. Our founders designed it with the president as the capstone which holds all of those truths in place. When the person to whom such responsibility has been granted legally has no claim to that office then we have a dire situation on our hands whether or not the lamestream media take note.

[MamaDearest]

O’Reily is owned by FOX who just sold out the Saudis who supposely put Obama through Harvard. What a wicked web we weave.

You have a BINGO here!

Saudi billionaire boasts of manipulating Fox News coverage

DECEMBER 7, 2005 WASHINGTON—Accuracy in Media (AIM) is urging a full inquiry into a report that a Saudi billionaire caused the Fox News Channel (FNC) to dramatically alter its coverage of the Muslim riots in France after he called the network to complain. The Saudi billionaire, Al-waleed bin Talal, is a friend of News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch and controls an influential number of voting shares in the company. “This report underscores the danger of giving foreign interests a significant financial stake in U.S. media companies,” declared Cliff Kincaid, editor of Accuracy in Media.  The controversial comments came at an Arab media conference featuring representatives of Time magazine, USA Today, PBS, The Wall Street Journal, and other news organizations. The conference and the Saudi Prince’s growing influence in News Corporation are among the subjects of a new December-A AIM Report that has just been posted at the AIM website (http://www.aim.org). The report raises the specter of Arab money influencing News Corporation and other U.S. media companies.  Liberal journalist Danny Schechter, a participant in the conference, reports that Al-waleed, who is a member of the Saudi Royal Family and investor in the Fox News parent company News Corporation, gave an interview boasting that he had called Fox to complain about coverage of the “Muslim riots” in France. He said he “called as a viewer” and “convinced them to change” the coverage because “they were not Muslim riots but riots against poverty and inequality.” And “they changed” the coverage, the Saudi reportedly said.  Another report on the comments, carried by the Dubai-based newspaper the Khaleej Times, says that Al-waleed personally called Rupert Murdoch to complain. The Saudi said, “After a short while, there was a change” in the coverage. An AIM call to Fox News asking for comment was not returned.

[chopperman]

Get real. A white man is not his father.

[Kakaze]

Just release the damn thing............and yeah I do think its damned.

[Tunehead54]

Although you didn't ask me here's what I think: If he was in fact born in Kenya then "mom" would have seen all the citizenship problems for a kid with a Brit Dad and with the lax BC rules in Hawaii they just phoned in the notice to provide some indicia that he was born in the states.

My experience is that almost any government handout becomes a scam target with the pros figuring out all the angles to get their best return for their "effort". In this case American citizenship was a brass ring worth scamming for regardless of mom's hopes for her newborn. IMHO. ;-)

[bert]

Meanwhile, Glen Beck shows up and is wrecking the other cable news channels and destroying the credibility of the One.

This is no accident. The man sees America in peril and is investing in Fox to counter the leftist MSM

most of this talk is chicken little alarmism

[LS]

Whatever happens to the "old media," I think that however the birth certificate thing shakes out, it ultimately will be irrelevant for THIS president. He is not going to be removed, period. I don't care if they find six dead girls and five live boys in his closet, he will not be removed.

What could occur is a massive post-Obama determination (a la the move after FDR to limit presidential terms) to see to it that nothing like this happens again.

[LS]

I do think that is a significant issue. It is noted that the address is wrong, and there is something fishy with that, but it’s only as I understand it wrong in one paper.

[Canedawg]

It won’t surprise me if one day his BC is revealed and it contains info that would disqualify him from being POTUS. It also would not shock me if it came out that his typical white grandmother was conveniently murdered to prevent the truth from coming out.

[LS]

Isn’t only one of the two papers wrong on the address?

[paul51]

Why should anyone move on when BO has refused to provide any of the following documents. Is it remotely possible he his hiding something by hiding these documents? 1 Certified copy of original birth certificate 2 Columbia University transcripts 3 Columbia thesis paper 4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups 5 Harvard University transcripts 6 Illinois State Senate records 7 Illinois State Senate schedule 8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary 9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother 10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far) 11 Occidental College Transcripts 12 Parent’s marriage Certificate 13 Record of baptism 14 Selective Service registration records 15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007 16 Passport records for all passports 17 Scholarly articles 18 SAT and LSAT test scores 19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya 20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists 21 Punahou grade school records 22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education. 23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.

If there was anything there at all to be proud of, you can bet it would have been released.

[Man50D]

Why not impeach him now?

BO/BS can't be impeached. Only a President can be impeached. BO/BS must be removed from office by being convicted of treason, fraud etc...

[ConjunctionJunction]

The birth announcements do not specify the child’s place of birth. Taking them at face value, they only state that a child was born to parents and listed their home address. He could have been born anywhere and the birth announcements would have said the same thing.

I’m sure that nobody at that time knew that he would someday run for President, but being a U.S. citizen has all kinds of advantages. Stanley Ann would have been eligible for welfare, for example.

I have read that it was very easy to get a Hawaiian birth certificate back then. A close relative (grandmother, perhaps) could sign an affidavit and mail it in to the Hawaiian Dept. of Health and claim an at home birth. No independent verification required.

Something doesn’t match with his long form BC on file with Hawaii’s Dept. of Health and what was displayed at his “Fight the Smears” website. What it is that doesn’t match, I don’t know.

Fight the Smears also claimed that he was “native born” — not “natural born”. He’s a “constitutial scholar” (according to the “dinosaur” media ;) ), so he knows that the Constitution requires the President to be “natural born” - not “native born”. Why would his own campaign website say that?

[Uncle Chip]

The entire U.S. Senate are Partial Birthers. They were concerned enough about the facts of McCain's birth as regards his qualifications for POTUS that they passed Senate Resolution SR511 -- but they left Obama off of it and did not address the facts of Obama's birth as to his qualifications. They were partial to one and not the other making then Partial Birthers.

So Beck, Oreally, Breithart, and Redstate go choke on that.

[TheThinker]

Why not?

Do you have Zero's DNA stashed away somewhere?

[SkipW]

I have been ragging O’Reilly about his clumsey attempts to squash any discussion of the birth certificate. He dismissed those who question why Obama wouldn’t just produce the certificate and end the whole controversy. O’Reilly claimed that the Hawaiian Government had assured The Factor that they accepted the document Obama presented proving his birth there. He actually said that the argument was settled. I wrote and assured him it was not.

Then O’Reilly claimed that Obama wouldn’t show the birth certificate because he and his administration were arrogant and just wanted to thumb their noses at the people who were asking for the certificate. I thought that was garbage. I still do, and I was really ticked off the other night when he said that they would not produce the birth certificate because every one viewed the “birthers” as a little nutty (My words) and refused to end the controversy because they thought it benefitted them when birther loonies(Again, my words)kept raising the issue.

I think that is garbage too. I buy this article because it provides a rational reason for Obama spending so much money to avoid providing the birth certificate and explains why O’Reilly has allowed himself to come off like an idiot with his conflicting and silly defenses of Obama’s stone walling.

[Mouton]

But gee, Barry is upset about those questioning his citizenship. Boo hoo, I feel for him.

[Agamemnon]

Hi LS. Great appearance you made on Beck's show last week. Very informative!

I posted to the following thread which appeared yesterday. Given your interactions with Beck to this point and what you may know better about him and his views, I'd be interested to hear your take on my theory:

Glenn Beck: The Birthers should work for the Obama administration

Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:41:57 PM · 122 of 141

Freekitty writes: "I so agree and don’t undersrand why Beck is saying what he is saying."

Agamemnon to freekitty; Arthur Wildfire! March; noah; Cicero; Eagle Eye; Texas Eagle

"It's all timing.

"I see some gamesmanship being played right here.

"Unless they are all collectively blind and stupid -- which we know they are not -- Obama, Beck, Rush, O'Reilly, Levin, Hannity, Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy + other 4 Supremes, Pelosi, Reid, and Biden all know one thing: He ain't a Constitutionally-defined Natural Born Citizen.

"Since 2007, the game board has favored the Dems. Congress has been controlled by the Dems. No investigation of Obama -- Congressional or media -- would ever take place with the Dems in control of Congress. The USSC is powerless to act even if it takes a case and makes a finding.

"So our guys all play along for the moment -- "plausibly deniable" -- Our guys are in the business of making sure we focus on the fact that we've got to take power back in Congress FIRST. The BC thing how ever true it is, will be a distraction of efforts in the near term to focus our united efforts to "Flip the House."

"Obama's comment about questioning his "citizenship" -- not natural born citizenship, mind you, merely "citizenship" (i.e., not the issue at all) at the prayer breakfast was a Chicago-style taunt while at the same time trying to neutralize the issue as the butt of a joke all the while conveniently hiding the fact in plain sight. It's just like that "plausibly deniable" middle finger flip off he did to McCain during the campaign.

"The media are looking to make a caricatures with labels: "truthers," "birthers," "Birchers," etc. It's all the same to them. Using Alinsky's tactics, you can polarize, isolate and destroy those who wear the labels the radicals have designed for them. Hannity, Rush and Beck won't give them that target, because they will define with dismissive lables those they wish to destroy with the ultimalte object to neutralize the efficiency of an otherwise laudable conservative effort to expose what will be known some day as the fraud of the century.

"There will be a time to take Obozo down with the BC and much more -- we can take Obozo down once we have the tools finally and the levers of power at our conservative disposal to be able to do so effectively.

"Now is not the time for the BC stuff. Stay focused on taking back Congress. then let the investigations begin. The Democrat Party as we now know it may not even survive."

Your thoughts?

FReegards!

[Jolla]

We’ll survive this four year indulgence of liberal/socialism government.

The thing I pray is America, like Abraham, keeps the faith; this sad period will be over soon, not until a great deal of damage is done, but it will be over.

[UCANSEE2]

BO/BS can't be impeached.

Why not?

Only a President can be impeached.

But you are just playing word games, with that kind of tactic. If you have some kind of proof, and can get a hearing in court on it, where you prove he is not legally President, let me know.