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The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues
Western Center for Journalism ^ | Steve Baldwin, Exclusive to Western Center for Journalism

Posted on 01/31/2010 9:16:28 PM PST by narses

Most Americans don’t realize we have elected a president whom we know very little about.

Pictured: Barack Obama’s Autobiography, Dreams from My Father. Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans. A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this? The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii. What is he hiding? Well, for starters, some of these records will shed light on his citizenship and birth.

Pictured: “Scott & Barry, 3rd grade 1969” Punahou School in Hawaii. For example, Obama’s application to Punahou School – now mysteriously missing – would likely contain a birth certificate. And, according to attorney Gary Kreep, “his Occidental College records are important as they may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student.” Indeed, Obama used his Indonesian name “Barry Soetoro” while attending Occidental. Kreep has filed lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president and as part of his lawsuit he requested Obama’s records from Occidental. However, Obama’s lawyers quickly moved to stop Occidental from honoring this request. Furthermore, now that at least three document authentication experts have declared the scanned “Certificate of Live Birth” Obama’s campaign team gave to a pro-Obama website to be an obvious phony; we know that he is hiding something here as well. Over 49 separate law suits have been filed on the eligibility/birth certificate issue alone, with several of the suits making it all the way the United States Supreme Court, only to be denied a full hearing.

Pictured: Saudi Prince Al-Walid bin Talah What’s more, there are questions about how he paid for his Harvard Law School education since, despite a claim by Michele Obama, no one has produced any evidence that he received student loans. The Obamas will not release any student loan details despite repeated requests from the Chicago Tribune. However, it appears that his Harvard education may have been paid for by a foreign source. Khalid Al-Mansour, an advisor to Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talah, told Manhattan Borough president, Percy Sutton, that he was raising money for Obama’s Harvard tuition. Incidentally, Prince Tala is the largest donor to CAIR, a Muslim group declared by the U.S. Government in 2007 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist financing trial. At least three of CAIR’s leaders have been indicted for terrorist activities. Al-Mansour’s admission opens up speculation as to whether Muslim interests have assisted Obama’s career in the hope he would eventually be in a position someday to promote their interests. More recently, it was discovered that Obama’s Selective Service card may have been doctored. Federal law requires all American males to register for the Selective Service (the draft) in case a major war broke out. Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older. Indeed, the forgers forgot to alter the “Document Location Number” which shows that it is clearly a 2008 form. This is fraud and it’s a felony and Schlussel allegations are backed up by Stephen Coffman, a former high-ranking Federal agent. Moreover, the document shows a September 4th, 1980 date and the location of the transaction as Hawaii, but at that time Obama was thousands of miles away attending Occidental College in Los Angeles.

Pictured: Barack Obama’s 2008 Selective Service Card. “Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older.” The real reason why Obama probably did not submit this form as a teenager is that he assumed his Kenyan or Indonesian citizenship exempted him from this requirement. But clearly, as he grew older and entered politics, he saw that any documents revealing a foreign birth – Selective Service registration, birth certificate, school applications, etc – would be problematic if he ran for the presidency. Thus, it is not a coincidence that every document which contains information about his birth or citizenship is either missing, sealed, or has been altered. Indeed, everywhere one looks into Obama’s background, we find sealed records, scrubbed websites, altered documents, deception and unanswered questions. Can anyone imagine for a second if John McCain or George Bush had blocked access to his school, medical, and birth records? It would have been headlines but as with everything else concerning Obama, the media has given him a pass on this. Of all these marvels, the latest mystery and probably most perplexing is that of Obama’s social security number. It appears that Obama has multiple identities in term of possessing numerous social security numbers. Orly Taitz, an attorney who has filed numerous suits against Obama regarding his eligibility to serve as president, appears to be the first to discover this. In her suit, representing a number of military officers who are refusing to serve under an ineligible commander in chief, she hired private investigator Neil Sankey to conduct research on Obama’s prior addresses and Social Society numbers. Using Intelius, Lexis Nexis, Choice Point and other public records, Sankey found around 25 Social Security numbers connected with Obama’s name. However, it may not be as many as 25, since Sankey also searched using closely related names such as: “Barak Obama,” “Batock Obama,” “Barok Obama,” and “Barrack Obama.” There may very well be some Kenyans living in America with the same last name and a similar first name. In any case, I will exclude these records for the purpose of this research and focus only on names spelled exactly like his name. Moreover, we can verify many of the Social Security numbers as valid since they’re connected to addresses at which we know Obama resided. Needless to say, there are also a slew of address and social security numbers connected to addresses in states that Obama has no known connection to. In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042 and one starting 364. In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999. There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.

Pictured: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School – we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in 2008. This mystery grows even stranger as other addresses and Social Security numbers for Barack Obama appear in a dozen other states not known to be connected to him. Again, I am excluding those records names not spelled exactly like his name. Tennessee, one address with a Social Security number beginning with 427 Colorado, one address, with a Social Security number beginning with 456. Utah, two addresses, with two Social Security numbers beginning with 901 and 799. Missouri has one address and one Social Security number beginning with 999. Florida has two addresses listed for his him, three if you count one listed as “Barry Obama.” One is connected to a Social Security number beginning with 762. In Georgia there are three addresses listed for him, all with different Social Security numbers: 579, 420, and 423. In Texas there are four different addresses listed for him, one is connected to Social Security number 675. There are two addresses listed for Barack Obama in Oregon and one address listed for him in the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania. All told, there are 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers listed for a person whose name is spelled “Barack Obama.” In some cases, the middle initial “H” is listed. If you were to expand the search to include closely related names such as: “Barac,” “Barak,” and “Barrack” Obama, you would find more than a dozen additional addresses and Social Security numbers. Finally, the one Social Security number Obama most frequently used, the one beginning with 042, is a number issued in Connecticut sometime during 1976-1977, yet there is no record of Obama ever living or working in Connecticut. Indeed, during this time period Obama would have been 15-16 years old and living in Hawaii at the time.

Pictured: Ann, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham Nevertheless, all this mystery surrounding Obama appears to be a generational thing. Researchers have discovered nearly a dozen aliases, at least two different Social Security numbers, and upwards of over 99 separate addresses for Ann Dunham, his mother. We do know she worked for the ultra liberal Ford Foundation but we also know she may have earned some income from pornographic poses, as evidenced by photos recently discovered by some researchers—how embarrassing. The only thing researchers are able to find out about Obama’s mother is the fact she made porn. I’m sure that’s a first for presidential mothers. But we also know that Obama’s mother and grandparents associated with Communist Party leaders such as Frank Marshall Davis, a man who, according to Obama’s book, Dreams from my Father, was his main mentor during much of his Hawaiian boyhood (although Obama tried to disguise his identity in his book). During the Cold War, Davis was named by congressional investigators as a key member of a secretive pro-Soviet networked that existed in Hawaii at that time.

Pictured: Communist Party leader, Frank Marshall Davis. The lack of documents regarding Obama also extends to his mother and to his grandparents. Indeed, researchers have been unable to find marriage licenses for his mother’s two marriages, assuming she was ever legally married. Ditto goes for the marriage license for Ann’s parents. They cannot find birth certificates for her, her parents, or for even for her grandparents. Even more so, despite Obama’s boast of his grandfather’s military service, there’s no record of that either. For reasons no one knows, much of Obama’s life, his mother’s life and his grandparent’s life has been erased from the records as if they never existed. But why would someone obtain so many Social Security numbers? According to investigators, those who create additional Social Society numbers are typically engaged in criminal activities such as Social Security fraud, tax fraud, real estate fraud, campaign contributions fraud, voter fraud and so on. While the private investigator who compiled this list says multiple social security numbers does not automatically prove there’s criminal activity involved, he states that “having said that, I have personally experienced many, many cases where such information has led to subsequent exposure of fraud, deception, money laundering and other crimes.“What is interesting to note is that Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.

Pictured: Barrack Obama and his Grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. “Madeline Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.” It is clear that more research needs to be done on this issue. The Western Center for Journalism ( http://www.westernjournalism.com) is inviting our readers to join the search for the truth. If you have any information about any of the addresses listed, we would love to hear from you. To find a complete list of all the addresses and Social Security numbers listed in the public record for Obama and family, please go to the Western Center for Journalism.


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To: RummyChick
"And she went to Indonesia when they were torturing people to uncover communists...during one of the bloodiest times in Indonesian history..and dragged along her young son.

"IMO,There is no way the CIA didn’t know about her. Given the black hole of info...there is CIA involvement.

"I am not sure why you believe she was working for the KGB and the CIA didn’t have a clue ...."

Shortly before Stanley Ann got there Indonesia was butchering communist cadres just like her former husband, but they were not touching American citizen wives of US Oil companies, to my knowledge.

She would have had perfect "cover" to act as a KGB agent, although I doubt she was one and did not say that I believe she was working for the KGB. I just said that was more likely than CIA from what I know of the CIA.

Prior to moving to Indonesia she had none of the foreign language experience, foreign living experience, scientific training or foreign policy education that I know the CIA would value from personal experience. Neither did her son, as his brief stay in Indonesia as a child where he never became fluent in the language, wouldn't have impressed the CIA, even if it impressed the Democrats.

121 posted on 02/06/2010 6:36:58 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: butterdezillion; rxsid; BP2; RummyChick
UK Colonial Kenya itself (Act of 1902), apparently, Kenya regarded marriages subsequent to a "native law or custom" or "Mohammedan law" to be illegal.

And under the 1948 BNA only legitimate or legitimated children are governed by it. Without a formal divorce from Ketzia, BHO II's birth could never be legitimate or legitimated by a Dunham-Obama marriage in HI.

• See Kenya Marriage Act of 1902 paragraph #49:

49. Whoever contracts a marriage under this Act, being at the time married in accordance with native law or custom or in accordance with Mohammedan law to any person other than the person with whom such marriage is contracted, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

kenyalaw.org/family/statutes/...?file=The+marriage+act.pdf

• BNA of 1948 Legitimation of persons born out of wedlock:

23.—(1) A person born out of wedlock and legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents shall, as from the date of the marriage or of the commencement of this Act, whichever is later, be treated, for the purpose of determining whether he is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, or was a British subject immediately before the commencement of this Act, as if he had been born legitimate.

(2) A person shall be deemed for the purposes of this section to have been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents if by the law of the place in which his father was domiciled at the time of the marriage the marriage operated immediately or subsequently to legitimate him, and not otherwise.

http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm

“(2) Subject to the provisions of section twenty-three of this Act, any reference in this Act to a child shall be construed as a reference to a legitimate child; and the expressions “father”, “ancestor” and “descended” shall be construed accordingly.”

http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm

122 posted on 02/06/2010 8:05:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

“Prior to moving to Indonesia she had none of the foreign language experience, foreign living experience, scientific training or foreign policy education that I know the CIA would value from personal experience. Neither did her son, as his brief stay in Indonesia as a child where he never became fluent in the language, wouldn’t have impressed the CIA, even if it impressed the Democrats. “

You really are hung up on this...I repeat...CIA WILL USE ANYONE that suits their purpose for all kinds of things at anytime..anywhere...

Surely you understand that a fisherman with no education off in the wilds can work for the CIA..on an ongoing basis..if it suits their purpose. Men in suits (those that you are hung up on) can travel great lengths to track down someone to work for them if it suits their purpose.

The CIA hatched a plan..and used an uneducated criminal mafioso who has been in and out of prison.....through a cutout....in a plan to kill a foreign head of state....That’s no made up fantasy...It, in fact, happened.

And as a coincidence...someone involved with the Bay of Pigs invasion ,who is now exiled in the US, supposedly said that Obama’s father is a Cuban.


123 posted on 02/06/2010 8:28:28 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: BP2; butterdezillion; RummyChick; rxsid; LucyT
"Original records of BHO SR’s first marriage would likely be found in the Kadhi’s Courts, which preserved Sharia Law for Muslims in the Mombasa area, as discussed here on FR a few months back."

But Ketzia and the Obama tribal area was in the non-Muslim Lake Victoria western part of the country, not coastal more Muslim Mombasa. I haven't seen any claim that Kezia was Muslim. None of her children's names sound Muslim and they don't appear to be living as Muslims, althoug "Roy" once studied at a "madrasah."

From Daily Mail:

"As well as Auma, Kezia has three sons by Barack Snr. Her two youngest, Bernard and Abo, live in Nairobi.

"Bernard sells mechanical parts while Abo runs an international telephone shop.

"Their eldest son Roy studied at a madrasah in Nairobi before moving to the States where he is an accountant.

"Until now, Barack Snr has been portrayed as a bigamist and a drunk."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506338/Barack-Obamas-stepmother-living-Bracknell-reveals-close-bond---mother.html#ixzz0eowsRlC7

Obama Sr's father reportedl only became Muslim as part of an anti-colonial, anti-white political statement by all accounts, not unlike the Nation of Islam concept.

Obama Sr was a raging Marxist, alcohol consumer and reported atheist who seemed more intent on hiding bigamy from his successive wives than public Muslim polygamy, from what I read.

124 posted on 02/06/2010 8:28:55 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: RummyChick
“...CIA WILL USE ANYONE that suits their purpose for all kinds of things at anytime..anywhere...”

I intended my comments about Stanley Ann to be directed at whether or not she might be a knowning trained agent or asset of either the CIA or KGB, not an incidental or episodic asset.

125 posted on 02/06/2010 9:09:36 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I am suspicious of your motives for posting now.

There is only one way that there could be this deep black hole of information and that is through the US side...and you should know that if you are as familiar with the CIA as you say you are.

I have no doubt that many different government agencies read FR. At least one , if not more, are probably all over this thread.

I think many people here who have done any research on intelligence, or know anyone who has worked in intelligence, or has worked in intelligence,or just sits down and thinks about it can recognize that the black hole across the board couldn’t happen without whisperings....or flat out threats...from more than just the Chicago Machine.

But carry one believing and trying to further the notion that there is no way the Dunhams worked with the Spooks.


126 posted on 02/07/2010 3:35:40 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
"There is only one way that there could be this deep black hole of information and that is through the US side...and you should know that if you are as familiar with the CIA as you say you are."

The "black hole" started in earnest with Ayers near 100% authorship of the Obama myth in Dreams. Ayers is hardly CIA! Ayers wife, Bernardine Dohrn was in Cuba getting trained by Cuban intelligence, doubtless under the gaze of the KBG.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/team-cuba-ayers-dohrn-just-two-political-activists-from-obamas-neighborhood-visited-cuba-in-september-2008/2/

The serious scrubbing and locking of Obama's past didn't begin in earnest until after his 2004 convention speech when the Alinski Appollo project decided to go for broke backing Obama. That scrubbing has been aided and abetted by thee MSM, not US intelligence services, in my view.

Would the CIA or FBI under Bush at the time officially participate in such an endeavor?

I say there is no chance of that whatsoever, although rogue elements of both were actively trying to bring down Bush in coordination with the DNC as can be seen with the Plame crap and false Iran NIE report claiming that Iran wasn't trying to get a nuke weapon.

127 posted on 02/07/2010 8:38:24 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; butterdezillion; BP2; RummyChick
The 1964 divorce record from the Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit State of Hawaii, states that Stanley Ann D. Obama and Barack H. Obama "were lawfully married in Wailuku, Maui, State of Hawaii, on February 2, 1961, by a person duly authorized to perform marriage cerimonies and ever since that date have been and are now husband and wife." http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11

It could have been a polygamous marriage, as it appears that in 1961, polygamy was not outlawed: http://law.jrank.org/pages/11834/Annulment-Prohibited-Marriage-Prohibited-Marriage.html

It's interesting that folks seem to insist that it was a "bigamous" marriage. Are we to believe the SADO was ignorant enough to not know? Is a polygamous marriage impossible?

If the existing court document is correct, and polygamy was not illegal in 1961 HI, then in the "eyes" of the BNA of 1948, would they not have been involved in a "legal" marriage?

Until ANOTHER court document (presumably arrived at after discovery) proves that the divorce court document contains false information, the state of Hawaii believed they were involved in a legal marriage.

So, let the discovery begin!

128 posted on 02/09/2010 1:13:21 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Sheesh....

You just don’t get it.

Try here for starters..and use your head.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol12_Ch0501-0588/HRS0572/HRS_0572-0001.htm

Just think. A guy is married to someone else. His country won’t recognize a marriage in the US EVEN IF LEGAL IN THE US (AND IT WASN”T LEGAL).
One or more parties LIE to get the marriage license.
Ann KNEW he was married by the time she got the divorce. SHE KNEW that marriage wasn’t legal.She got a divorce versus annulment for whatever reason...IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY HAD A VALID MARRIAGE THAT CAN”T BE ATTACKED COLLATERALLY AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY BRITISH AND KENYAN LAW AT THE TIME

THERE IS ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ON THIS IN BRITISH LAW.

BUT HEY,..JUST KEEP BELIEVING WHATEVER YOU WANT.


129 posted on 02/09/2010 1:29:37 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: rxsid
"It could have been a polygamous marriage, as it appears that in 1961, polygamy was not outlawed: http://law.jrank.org/pages/11834/Annulment-Prohibited-Marriage-Prohibited-Marriage.html

"It's interesting that folks seem to insist that it was a "bigamous" marriage. Are we to believe the SADO was ignorant enough to not know? Is a polygamous marriage impossible?

"If the existing court document is correct, and polygamy was not illegal in 1961 HI, then in the "eyes" of the BNA of 1948, would they not have been involved in a "legal" marriage?"

rxsid: When I go to the above link I find that HI statute 572-1(3) outlaws bigamous marriages currently. Where do you find that bigamy was legal in HI in 1961? UT was denied entry into the Union until it banned bigamy/polygamy. If HI permitted bigamy/polygamy in 1959, I think it would have been widely reported and statehood opposed until it was banned.

How could SADO know anything of Obama Srs Kenya marriage to Kezia beyond what he chose to tell her? If he didn't tell her, that doesn't make 18-year-old SADO ignorant.

From what I read in the Kenya Marriage Act of 1902, bigamy/polygamy was illegal for all persons including tribal or Muslim marriages and the 1948 BNA only applies to legitimate children of BHO Sr.

Only discovery and litigation on the merits in HI, UK and Kenya would establish whether BHO II was governed by the 1948 BNA and was thus a dual-citizen and subject of the Queen at birth.

130 posted on 02/09/2010 3:34:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
How could SADO know anything of Obama Srs Kenya marriage to Kezia beyond what he chose to tell her? If he didn't tell her, that doesn't make 18-year-old SADO ignorant.

Sure it does. If someone doesn't know something, then he or she actually is ignorant.
131 posted on 02/09/2010 4:01:50 PM PST by aruanan
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To: RummyChick
In order to "attack" something "collaterally" to overrule the divorce record, that would need to be done in court. Yes? Do you not "get it?" Let's have discovery already! Sheesh.

Oh, and "his country" was governed by Great Britain at the time, so it would be THEIR laws that would (or would not) recognize a marriage that was (currently, STILL) recognized in the state of Hawaii.

b.t.w. I realize it's part of your very strong personal opinion, but why do you mandate that it was a bigamous marriage and not a polygamous one? Do you have some inside information regarding that? Or...as I suspect, simply your opinion?

132 posted on 02/09/2010 4:04:33 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Seizethecarp
"When I go to the above link I find that HI statute 572-1(3) outlaws bigamous marriages currently."
Correct! However, as I stated prior, I can not find any info regarding "polygamy" in the state of HI in 1961. Bigamy, yes, found it. Outlawed. Polygamy? Don't know. Haven't seen it. Is it possible she knew who he was, and that it was therefore a polygamous marriage? Yes. Possible. After-all, we are talking about a commie hippie type...that sort of "lifestyle" would fit right up their ally (some of them, anyway).

"From what I read in the Kenya Marriage Act of 1902, bigamy/polygamy was illegal for all persons including tribal or Muslim marriages"
That's fine. But were not talking about the Kenyan laws here. He wouldn't have inherited his British "citizenship" via their laws anyway, so that's not in play here. Even his F.T.S. web site doesn't cite the Kenyan laws...only the 1948 BNA.

"the 1948 BNA only applies to legitimate children of BHO Sr."
And there in lies the point. Until it's proven in a court of law, that the marriage was illegal (for whatever reason), the state of HI believed it was a legal marriage. We can discuss and argue all we want on FR. That doesn't overrule the divorce document that states otherwise. I, personally, have no idea weather or not they were legally married. I am not SADO, or Sr., so I don't know the "facts" of the issue. Do I think that "chances" are that it probably wasn't legal. Yeah. Probably not. What I do know for a fact though, is what I see in the HI court documents that lists them as being legally married. I also see his campaign web site as saying his "birth status was governed by Great Britain." Well, how could it have done that if they were not legally married?

So, as I've stated before...let the discovery begin so we can get to the truth of the matter!

"Only discovery and litigation on the merits in HI, UK and Kenya would establish whether BHO II was governed by the 1948 BNA and was thus a dual-citizen and subject of the Queen at birth."
Exactly!

Cheers!

133 posted on 02/09/2010 4:19:16 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; LucyT; BP2; butterdezillion
"That's fine. But were not talking about the Kenyan laws here. He wouldn't have inherited his British "citizenship" via their laws anyway, so that's not in play here. Even his F.T.S. web site doesn't cite the Kenyan laws...only the 1948 BNA." "I also see his campaign web site as saying his "birth status was governed by Great Britain." Well, how could it have done that if they were not legally married?"

The Kenya Marriage Act of 1902 was a UK Colonial law in effect prior to Kenyan independence when Obama was born, so Obama's father would have been under the UK 1948 BNA, not Kenya law.

Are we to believe what Obama's campaign put on Factcheck?

Obama's lawyers were very sneaky when they put the "governed by the 1948 BNA" language on Factcheck. If you look at it again it says:

"As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."

Obama's lawyers fail to mention that the BNA of 1948 does not apply to illegitimate children of BHO Sr. During the campaign, the romantic color-blind union between Obama's father and his mother wouldn't have seemed so noble if it were an invalid bigamy and his mother a victim of a man with no character. A bigamous marriage would make Obama technically illegitimate...and a unitary citizenship NBC if born in HI with a single US citizen mother, from what I read.

Not that I believe anything in "Dreams" but in dreams Obama/Ayers says that he is most proud of his older brother, Roy Obama (first child of BHO Sr and Kezia) because Roy converted to Islam!

This means that Kezia and Obama Sr. did not raise Roy (or name Roy) as a Muslim as would be expected if Kezia was Muslim or her marriage to BHO Sr. was Muslim as some have tried to claim to justify a supposedly polygamous marriage in Kezia's tribal area of Kenya which not Muslim.

But I am totally with you on trying to gain discovery in HI and, I would add, further authentication of the CPGH BC to the extent possible.

134 posted on 02/09/2010 4:49:15 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: flash2368

I doubt it was because of the video. you must of said something else.


135 posted on 02/11/2010 2:02:28 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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Bump.


136 posted on 02/20/2010 6:32:59 AM PST by houeto (Remember in November!)
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