The Mystery of Barack Obama Continues

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[danamco]

She had to be 19 when whelping she was only 18!!!

[Hostage]

The legal side of it has been posted before on FR. I do not have the post at the moment but I know it has been posted several times under articles referring to Leo Donofrio.

The legal side are references to legal rulings and written opinions by judges as to what is the definition of ‘natural born citizen’. That’s what you are after.

Try looking here at FR under ‘Donofrio’ and also searching the internet. Here is a pretty definitive reference:

“When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, “Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority.” The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US.” Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents’ citizenship. “

The Naturalization Act of 1790 passed by Congress should have large legal weight and has never been superceded to my knowledge as it was reaffirmed at the time of drafting the 14th Amendment. Note also the author of the 14th Amendment made the definition very explicit.

That said, there is a lot of disinformation on the web especially as it relates to this issue and the issue of children born in the US of illegal aliens.

There is a chance that the above definition by John Bingham will be be reaffirmed by USSC in upcoming cases.

[danamco]

If we could unlock Obama’s records, defeat the $1._ million in legal fees he’s spent to keep them hidden... would we find that Obama didn’t use student loans to attend Harvard Law after all? Would we find a foreign (Saudi) source of his tuition?

A photo of a U.S. "President"(?) bowing to the Saudi Royalty says it all while French Sarkozy is laughing his socks off!!!

[wxgesr]

XCLNT post, Bigtigermike!!!

[danamco]

The B.C. issue is nothing but a Red Herring and just a distraction from this NBC real issue!!!

[danamco]

Barack Obama’s 2008 Selective Service Card. “Blogger Debbie Schlussel has discovered solid evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was submitted not when he was younger as required, but rather in 2008 and then altered to look older.”

I wonder if any document expert has compared his signature from 1980 with his 2008 signature???

I know that my signature 28 years back is not exactly the same as it is today, and certainly less what it was when I 18-20 years old!!!

[444Flyer]

"POTUS 44 and Congress are looking an awful lot like the beast and the false prophet.

And they have taken lies and deception to a whole new level. Following after the father of lies....

[flash2368]

It was just about the time people were first beginning to talk about the BC thing... and I made a post about the BC being nothing, that the fake SS#s were the real smoking gun and a link to that little “Dragnet” video my wife and I put together... and everyone went off on me and the mod banned me from posting... Surprised me... but that was really before I think everyone started realizing what a snake Zero really is.

I think the man and his cohorts will stop at nothing.. they have Zero morals and an objective and they will do whatever it takes to get there. I am convinced it goes all the way to murder.. there being two now.. one the gay choir director and the other being the man who was investigating the tampering of the State Department passport files. That man was shot in his car one night in D.C.

Just watch the run up to the fall elections.. we will see voter fraud of monumental proportions and intimidation to match. Holder should be thrown out of office and brought up on some kind of charges for failing to prosecute the goons at the polling place in the last election. Failing to do that just sent the signal that they can get away with anything.. and they will certainly try to.

[DNME]

Could a legal team pursue the release of these records through the individual states where the facility (Punahou, Occidental, Columbia, Harvard, etc.) is located instead of using a FOIA request? I’m sure some state judge somewhere would be willing to authorize a search warrant, considering the nature of the crime involved.

Just wondering.

Then again, why hasn’t some records clerk from one of those facilities tried to make a gazillion bucks by stealing and selling even one of these documents?

[bgill]

Under ordinary circumstances Zero would not have qualified for any security clearance and this traitor has access to everything.

We know he has been groomed for years by our enemies. Perhaps since before he was a twinkle in his daddy's eye - whomever that might be. It's one thing to be president and have access to everything but at least for now he is under a microscope so he can only do so much (which is a LOT by all the bs he's shoving through congress). But there might be a bigger goal of the puppet masters. What happens after he's out of office? He can do much more harm after 2012 than he can now. That's very, very scary.

[bgill]

We have been on this case since the usurper decided to run. Phil Berg filing law suit before the election!!! With all due respect, where have you been???

You caught that, too, huh. I'm beyond shocked that so many, FReepers no less, just on this one thread haven't a clue about any of this. Egads, the rest of the country must be living under rocks. It's no wonder he's gaining in the polls after crisis on top of crisis on top of crisis.

[UCANSEE2]

Then again, why hasn’t some records clerk from one of those facilities tried to make a gazillion bucks by stealing and selling even one of these documents?

READ THE POST JUST PRIOR TO YOURS.

"I think the man and his cohorts will stop at nothing.. they have Zero morals and an objective and they will do whatever it takes to get there. I am convinced it goes all the way to murder.. there being two now.. one the gay choir director and the other being the man who was investigating the tampering of the State Department passport files. That man was shot in his car one night in D.C."

[bgill]

If this doesn’t knock you out of your chair, nothing will. Linked is Senate Resolution 511 (April ‘08) where a small 6 member committee, including Obama, was to determine if McCain was an eligible candidate on his questionable natural born citizenship status. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, a former Federal judge, also chimed in. They played loose with the interpretation since McCain wasn’t born on the US military base (i.e. US soil) but instead outside the US Panama Canal Zone. However, the zinger is that Obama sat on that committee, discussed the US Constitutional requirements for eligibility, and voted on the meaning of natural born citizenship. From Democrat Leahy’s site they discussed the meaning as being born of “citizens” with an “s” meaning both parents - “At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511

Below speaks to a letter from John Jay to George Washington concerning Art. II and that “the Commander in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen.” Read further for more info on why the founders specified “natural born” rather than native citizen or naturalized citizen or plain citizen.

http://books.google.com/books?id=n1wJ_vGjkSQC&pg=PA123&dq=%22provide+a+strong+check+to+the+admission+of+Foreigners%22&as_brr=3&ei=k7A8Sai7O5S6ygSI46StCg#v=onepage&q=%22provide%20a%20strong%20check%20to%20the%20admission%20of%20Foreigners%22&f=false

The below discusses some history of NBC including mention of Vattel. Do a search for Vattel’s Law of Nations from where our founders drew many of their ideals for a fuller understanding of the history of the term and why it is so important. Bottom line, Obama is a usurper and is not in any fashion eligible to hold office.

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

[Brian Kopp DPM]

From the Wikipedia entry on Business Corporation International:

Business International Corporation (BI) was a publishing and advisory firm dedicated to assisting American companies in operating abroad. In 1986, Business International was acquired by The Economist Group in London, and eventually merged with The Economist Intelligence Unit. BI has been known to be used as a CIA front company, and was where Barack Obama first worked upon graduating from Columbia University.

Clientele

The company's client base included most major American companies, as well as European, Japanese and Indian companies and corporate groups.

Barack Obama

United States President Barack Obama's first job after graduating from Columbia University was with the company. He held a position as a research associate in its financial services division, where he edited Financing Foreign Operations, a global reference service, and wrote for Business International Money Report, a weekly financial newsletter. ^CIA

The company has been identified as cover organization for the Central Intelligence Agency, e.g. see Lobster Magazine, issue 14 in 1987. According to a lengthy article in the New York Times in 1977, the co-founder of the company told the newspaper that "Eldridge Haynes [the other founder] had provided cover for four CIA employees in various countries between 1955 and 1960".^[3]

[rxsid]

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Anyone know if this is credible?

SPECIAL REPORT: Barack Obama's post-graduate CIA employment
By Wayne Madsen of Wayne Madsen Report
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

After graduating from Columbia University in 1983, Barack Obama went to work for a firm called Business International Corporation (BIC), a firm that was linked to economic intelligence gathering for the CIA. For one year, Obama worked as a researcher in BIC's financial services division where he wrote for two BIC publications, Financing Foreign Operations and Business International Money Report, a weekly newsletter. An informed source has told WMR that Obama's tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC. In addition, WMR has learned that when Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and his adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, the 20-year-old Obama, who was known as "Barry Soetoro," traveled to Pakistan in 1981 and was hosted by the family of Muhammadmian Soomro, a Pakistani Sindhi who became acting President of Pakistan after the resignation of General Pervez Musharraf on August 18, 2008. WMR was told that the Obama/Soetoro trip to Pakistan, ostensibly to go "partridge hunting" with the Soomros, related to unknown CIA business.

The covert CIA program to assist the Afghan mujaheddin was already well underway at the time and Pakistan was the major base of operations for the CIA's support. Obama also reportedly traveled to India, again, on unknown business for U.S. intelligence. WMR has been told by knowledgeable sources that Obama has, in the past, traveled on at least three passports: U.S., Indonesian, and British. BIC also maintained a European subsidiary, Business International S.A., in Geneva. BIC had long been associated with CIA activities since being founded by Eldridge Haynes, a self-professed liberal Democrat. The BIC headquarters was located at the prestigious address of 1 Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in Manhattan. BIC held a series of off-the-record, no press, meetings between top U.S. business executives and top government officials, including the President, and the Secretaries of State, Defense, Treasury, Commerce, and Labor; the Attorney General, Senate leadership, and the heads of the Export-Import Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank. BIC held international meetings in locations like Brussels and Mexico City.

In 1961, a BIC meeting in New Delhi was attended by Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and Foreign Minister Morarji Desai, who would later become Prime Minister.One month after Leonid Brezhnev, other Soviet Communist Party officials, and KGB chief Vladimir Seminchastny conspired to overthrow Soviet Communist Party General Secretary and Premier Nikita Khruschchev, Haynes was in Moscow in November 1964 sponsoring a business conference between Khrushchev's successor as Premier, Aleksei Kosygin, and top U.S. businessmen. In the years following the conference, Haynes often crafted together other U.S.-Soviet business meetings and became close to Kosygin. In November 1971, Haynes put together another U.S. businessmans' conference with Kosygin at which Commerce Secretary Maurice Stans was in attendance as President Richard Nixon's personal envoy. The president of BIC at the time was Orville Freeman, a former secretary of agriculture during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. Joining Freeman in Moscow were officials of DuPont, IBM, General Electric, Union Carbide, and Westinghouse. The Moscow meeting also dealt with the opening up of Soviet natural gas supplies to the United States. Haynes resigned as chairman of BIC in 1970 and retired to St. Croix. He remained as chairman until his death of 1976. In St. Croix, Haynes started the Virgin Islands Economic Development Bank. During the time Obama worked for BIC in 1984, the firm had a full-time analyst tracking events in Nicaragua. The Reagan administration's Iran-contra covert operations would begin in a matter of months from the time Obama went to work for the firm. BIC appeared to have had established business connections with Nicaragua's Sandinista government in order to protect U.S. banking and other business investments in the country.A business card for a BIC researcher for Europe and the Middle East was obtained by WMR from declassified CIA files.

In 1985, BIC named John Haley as chairman and chief executive officer succeeding Hugh Parker, who was Obama's ultimate boss in 1984. Haley had previously served as deputy chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc. founded by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Although Kissinger endorsed Obama's GOP opponent John McCain in the 2008 election, Obama sought advice from Kissinger during the campaign and later named Kissinger as his special envoy to talk to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. BIC's connections to the CIA were revealed by Haynes' son, Elliott Haynes, who co-founded BIC with his father. Elliott Haynes was quoted in a December 27, 1977, New York Times article, as saying that BIC "provided cover for four CIA employees in various countries between 1955 and 1960." The same article revealed that the CIA had one agent devoted to liaison with the press who worked out of the CIA's Manhattan office.A BIC Business Executives Report from 1975 and maintained in CIA files describes the 1975 "constitutional coup" against Australian Labor Prime Minister Gough Whitlam but makes only single reference to CIA culpability in the affair.

WMR has obtained from CIA files, a copy of a BIC corporate brochure from 1975 that lists the officers of the corporation: Edridge Haynes, President; Orville L. Freeman, President; Elliott Haynes, Executive Vice President; William Persen, Senior Vice President; Richard P. Conlon, Vice President; Jose A. Mestre, Vice President; Norman M. Wellen, Vice President and Treasurer; and Robert S. Wright, Vice President. Directors named in the brochure are: Robertson F. Alford, Norfolk, Connecticut; R. Stanton Avery, Chairman, Avery Prodcucts Corp., San Marino, CA.; Atherton Bean, Chairman, International Multifoods, Minneapolis; Ambassador Sol M. Linowitz, Senior Partner, Coudert Brothers, Attorneys, Washington; Lord Pilkington, Chairman, Pilkington Bros., St. Helens, UK; and C. William Verity, President, Armco Steel Corp., Middletown, OH.Linowitz, who was once chairman of Xerox, was the U.S. diplomat who negotiated the return of the Panama Canal to Panama during the Carter administration. Verity was Secretary of Commerce in the Reagan administration between 1987 and 1989. From 1987 to 1984, Verity chaired the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Trade Economic Council made up of U.S. and Soviet business leaders.Freeman was, in addition to being secretary of agriculture, a former Governor of Minnesota. Although he is not confirmed as the same Richard P. Conlon who served as a BIC Vice President, Richard P. Conlon was a former journalist for the Duluth Herald & News and the Minneapolis Tribune.

Conlon arrived in Washington in 1963 on a congressional fellowship while Freeman was secretary of agriculture. Conlon went on to work as a press assistant to Senator Walter Mondale and he was also close to Vice President Hubert Humphrey. Conlon became the head of the powerful Democratic Study Group in the House of Representatives. Conlon opposed U.S. military assistance to the Nicaraguan contras and the naval presence in the Persian Gulf ordered by President Reagan as violations of the War Powers Act. On June 19, 1988, Conlon died in a boating accident in the Chesapeake Bay. He was knocked overboard and his body was not discovered until four days later. Chesapeake boating accidents had already claimed the life of CIA clandestine officer John Paisley in 1978 and would later claim the lives of former CIA director William Colby and Dick Cheney friend and Export-Import Bank chief and Assistant NATO Secretary General Philip Merrill. The BIC brochure describes the firm's Global Program, which included five elements: the Corporate Headquarters Program operating from New York in conjunction with centers in Washington, DC, Chicago, San Francisco, Geneva, and Tokyo; the European Regional Program operated by Business International, S.A. in Geneva; the Latin American Regional Program operated out of Geneva; the Asia-Pacific Regional Program operated out of Tokyo and Hong Kong; and the East European Service operated out of Geneva and Vienna.BIC offices were located, in addition to New York, in Chicago (1 IBM Plaza), Geneva (12-14 chemin Rieu), Hong Kong (201 Asian House), Montevideo, Uruguay (Gallerias Diri), San Francisco (600 California Street), Tokyo (Pola Aoyama Building), Vienna (Prinz-Eugenstrasse 4), Washington (1625 Eye Street, NW), Buenos Aires (Cia. de Asesores Latinoamericanos S.A.), Bombay, London, Mexico City, Paris, Rio de Janeiro, and Sydney. There were also BIC "correspondents" in 50 other cities around the world. BIC also became involved in tracking terrorist and security threats to air passengers, especially after the 1985 hijacking of TWA flight 847 to Beirut while the plane was en route from Athens to Rome. BIC described Athens and Beirut as the world's most dangerous airports, followed by Karachi, New Delhi, Manila, Tehran, Tripoli (Libya), Conakry (Guinea), Lagos, and Yaounde (Cameroon).

In 1986, BIC was bought by the Economist Group in London and its operations were merged with the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU). There have been a number of reports that the EIU works as closely with Britain's MI-6 intelligence service as BIC once worked with or for the CIA. One of BIC's directors was the late Lord Pilkington, who was also a director of the Bank of England. Obama's work for a company having ties to the CIA barely registered a blip on the 2008 presidential campaign radar screen. At the very least, Obama helped in providing economic intelligence to the CIA as a contract employee. At most, Obama was, like previous BIC employees who operated abroad for the CIA, a full-fledged non-official cover (NOC) agent. Since President Obama has backpedaled on CIA renditions and torture, as well as warrantless electronic surveillance by U.S. intelligence, he owes the American people a full explanation of the circumstances behind his being hired by BIC, what his job actually entailed, and whether he continued to have a relationship with BIC or any other CIA operation while attending Harvard Law School and thereafter. Source:February 24, 2009 -- SPECIAL REPORT. Barack Obama's post-graduate CIA employment

[RummyChick]

“For Obama, his father was a British subject, and under British law at the time, Obama was a British subject as well.”

INCORRECT. I have posted about this ad nauseum and am not going to spend time going down this road again...just do research on illegitimate children and british law.

[rxsid]

"“For Obama, his father was a British subject, and under British law at the time, Obama was a British subject as well.”

INCORRECT. I have posted about this ad nauseum and am not going to spend time going down this road again...just do research on illegitimate children and british law."

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The state of HI believes it was a valid marriage:

Barry's Parents Divorce The 1964 divorce record from the Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit State of Hawaii, states that Stanley Ann D. Obama and Barack H. Obama "were lawfully married in Wailuku, Maui, State of Hawaii, on February 2, 1961, by a person duly authorized to perform marriage cerimonies and ever since that date have been and are now husband and wife." http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11

If the state of HI says it's a valid marriage, then Barry would be a legitimate child and the 1948 BNA would apply.

Presumably, it would take another court hearing to overturn THAT court's findings. Sooooo....let there be discovery!

[RummyChick]

They could’t have been lawfully married. Hawaii doesn’t not allow bigamy. Not valid in Hawaii, Not valid in US. Not valid in UK..not valid in Kenya. The marriage in Hawaii was valid NO WHERE.

I am not going to go through this again. People need to be aware of this issue.

They can choose to then ignore it or actually do some research.

Btw, if you lie to a divorce court and don’t tell them that the marriage was void ab initio...it doesn’t suddenly make the marriage valid for immigration purposes.

[rxsid]

"They could’t have been lawfully married. Hawaii doesn’t not allow bigamy. Not valid in Hawaii, Not valid in US. Not valid in UK..not valid in Kenya. The marriage in Hawaii was valid NO WHERE."

1. How do you know it was bigamy, and not polygamy?
and
2. Simply because you want to try and prove your point, doesn't mean that your correct and the state of HI was incorrect in 1964. It's your "word" vs. the HI court document that states they "were lawfully married"