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An Open Letter To Charles Johnson (LGF Turncoat Refuted; Free Republic Mention Alert)
Townhall ^ | 1/26/2010 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 01/26/2010 12:29:53 AM PST by goldstategop

On Sunday, The New York Times Magazine featured an article on Charles Johnson, whose website -- littlegreenfootballs -- had for years been very popular among conservatives and among all those who believed that Islamic terror and Islamic religious totalitarianism were the greatest expressions of contemporary evil. The reason for the article was that Mr. Johnson has made a 180-degree turn and is now profoundly, even stridently, anti-right. This is my letter to him.

Dear Charles:

As you know, over the years, I was so impressed with your near-daily documentation of developments in the Islamist world that I twice had you on my national radio show -- both times face to face in my studio. And you, in turn, periodically cited my radio show and would tell your many readers when they could hear you on my show.

Arguing with Idiots By Glenn Beck

So it came as somewhat of a shock to see your 180-degree turn from waging war on Islamist evil to waging war on your erstwhile allies and supporters on the right. You attempted to explain this reversal Nov. 30, 2009, when you published "Why I Parted Ways With The Right."

You offered 10 reasons, and I would like to respond to them. First, as disappointed as I am with your metamorphosis, I still have gratitude for all the good you did and I respect your change as a sincere act of conscience. But neither this gratitude nor this respect elevates my regard for your 10 points. They are well beneath the intellectual and moral level of your prior work. They sound like something Keith Olbermann would write if he were given 10 minutes to come up with an attack on conservatives.

1. Support for fascists, both in America (see: Pat Buchanan, Robert Stacy McCain, etc.) and in Europe (see: Vlaams Belang, BNP, SIOE, etc.).

Associating the American right with fascism is done only by leftist ideologues and propagandists, not by serious critics. It is akin to calling everyone on the left a Communist. As for the specific examples, forgive me, but in 28 years as a talk show host and columnist, I had never heard of Robert Stacy McCain or of Vlaams Belang. Nor did the BNP or SIOE register on my intellectual radar screen.

I looked them up and found that McCain is a former editor at the Washington Times charged with racist views. So what?

The BNP is the British National Party, a racist group that in the last U.K. general election received 0.7 percent of the popular vote. So what?

SIOE stands for Stop Islamisation of Europe. I perused its website, and while there are ideas I disagree with (e.g., the group does not believe that there are any Muslim moderates), the desire to stop the "Islamization" of Europe is hardly fascist; it is more likely animated by anti-fascism.

Vlaams Belang is a Flemish nationalist political party that won 17 out of 150 seats in Belgium's Chamber of Representatives. From what I could gather from a cursory glance at the party's platform, it is an ultra-nationalist Flemish party, many of whose language protection and secessionist ideals are virtually identical to those of the Party Quebecois, a party passionately supported by the left.

In any event, what do any of these groups have to do with mainstream American right institutions such the Hoover Institution, the Heritage Foundation or the American Enterprise Institute; or with mainstream conservative publications and websites such as the National Review, the Weekly Standard, Townhall.com or Commentary; or with mainstream American conservatives such as Bill Kristol, Thomas Sowell, Hugh Hewitt, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Bill Bennett, Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, as well as Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh?

2. Support for bigotry, hatred, and white supremacism (see: Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, Robert Stacy McCain, Lew Rockwell, etc.).

I agree with the late William Buckley that some of Pat Buchanan's views could be construed as anti-Jewish; I don't know who McCain or Lew Rockwell represent among mainstream conservatives; and to label Ann Coulter a white supremacist (or bigot) is slander.

3. Support for throwing women back into the Dark Ages, and general religious fanaticism (see: Operation Rescue, anti-abortion groups, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, the entire religious right, etc.).

"The entire religious right" wants to throw "women back into the dark ages?" As a religious (Jewish) conservative, perhaps I am a member of that group, and I find the charge absurd. The one example you give -- anti-abortion -- is invalid. To those who regard the unborn as worthy of life (except in the almost never occurring case of it being a threat to its mother's life), opposition to abortion is no more anti-woman than opposition to rape is anti-man. The only people who wish to throw women into the dark ages are the people you, Charles, used to fight. That is why your change of heart has actually hurt the battle for women's dignity and equality.

4. Support for anti-science bad craziness (see: creationism, climate change denialism, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, James Inhofe, etc.).

So, Charles, all those scientists who question or deny that human activity is causing a global warming that will render much of life on earth extinct are "anti-science?"

Has the possibility occurred to you that those who are skeptical of what they consider hysteria cherish science at least as much as you do? In fact, they suspect that -- for political, social, financial, psychological and/or herd-following reasons -- it is the "global warming" hysterics who are more likely to be anti-science.

Activist scientists, liberal media and leftist interest groups brought us the false alarm of an imminent heterosexual AIDS pandemic in America, the false alarm about silicon breast implants leading to disease and the nonsense about how dangerous nuclear power is. They were anti-science, not us skeptics who have been right every time I can think of.

5. Support for homophobic bigotry (see: Sarah Palin, Dobson, the entire religious right, etc.).

This charge is particularly ugly. It appears that you have decided to fight all the "hate" you allege to be on the right with your own hate. Why exactly is it "homophobic bigotry" to want to maintain the millennia-old definition of marriage as the union of men and women? The hubris of those who not only want to change the definition of the most important institution in society but believe everyone who ever advocated male-female marriage was a bigot -- meaning everyone who ever lived before you, Charles -- is as breathtaking as it is speech-suppressing.

6. Support for anti-government lunacy (see: tea parties, militias, Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc.).

What you call "anti-government lunacy" most Americans regard as preserving the greatest protector of individual liberty -- limited government.

7. Support for conspiracy theories and hate speech (see: Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Birthers, creationists, climate deniers, etc.).

I am no fan of Alex Jones, who, coincidentally, has attacked me on his website as a "Jewish propagandist." But please. The amount of hate speech in one Keith Olbermann commentary dwarfs any 12 months of Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. In any event, the real irony here is that before your inexplicable change, it was you who devoted years to documenting the greatest amount of hate speech on earth today -- that coming from within the Islamic world. If you still hated hate speech, you would still be doing that important work.

As for believing in conspiracy theories, your new team wins hands down -- from multiple assassins of JFK to the American government being behind 9-11 (it was even believed by a high-ranking member of the Obama administration) to the war in Iraq waged on behalf of Halliburton.

8. A right-wing blogosphere that is almost universally dominated by raging hate speech (see: Hot Air, Free Republic, Ace of Spades, etc.).

From what I have seen, your examples do not justify your charge. Moreover, for every right-wing "raging hate" speech website, there are probably three on the left. The major conservative sites are overwhelmingly rational and devoid of "raging hate." Given my longtime respect for you, Charles, it pains me that it is your list of 10 reasons for abandoning the right that is a prime example of "raging hate."

9. Anti-Islamic bigotry that goes far beyond simply criticizing radical Islam, into support for fascism, violence, and genocide (see: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc.).

I saw Pamela Geller's site (The New York Times Magazine article about you cited it -- Atlas Shrugs -- and mentioned nothing remotely approaching your charges against her or her site) and I've interviewed Robert Spencer. Your charges against them only cheapen the words "fascism," violence" and "genocide."

10. Hatred for President Obama that goes far beyond simply criticizing his policies, into racism, hate speech, and bizarre conspiracy theories (see: witch doctor pictures, tea parties, Birthers, Michelle Malkin, Fox News, World Net Daily, Newsmax, and every other right wing source).

The charge is a lie. Period. Those who cannot argue with the right always accuse it of racism. It used to work, Charles. But it is increasingly obvious to all but fellow leftists that the charge is specious. Opposition to President Obama has nothing to do with his race. Indeed, he continues to be more popular than his policies.

When you were on the politically and morally right side, Charles, you provided massive evidence for your positions. Now you throw verbal bombs. What happened? If you would like to tell me on my radio show, you are invited to do so. I miss you.


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Hate Speech? 8. A right-wing blogosphere that is almost universally dominated by raging hate speech (see: Hot Air, Free Republic, Ace of Spades, etc.).

On Free Republic? There is more hate speech from turncoat Charles Johnson's LGF and the Left in a week than on Free Republic and the conservative blogosphere in a year. Kudos to Dennis Prager on documenting Johnson's change of heart and political allegiance. He's becoming another raging liberal. Good riddance!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

1 posted on 01/26/2010 12:29:55 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

There are a few freepers who _might_ sometimes dip a toe into the hate speech pond, but they are very few, and they are usually denounced when they have gone too far. Then there are TROLLS who sign up and say hateful things to make FR and the right wing blogosphere look bad, but those people don’t represent us. We usually fish them out, but by then the damage is already done.


2 posted on 01/26/2010 12:39:08 AM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Paradox
Let's stipulate Pat Buchanan is an anti-Semite and racist. But this only demonstrates the extent to which American conservatism has excluded racists, bigots and cranks from it midst along with lunatics advocating conspiracy theories and other addle-minded rubbish. No serious conservative subscribes to or promotes hate speech. To assert otherwise is to engage in slander. The Left always cast aspersions, without a shred of evidence, on its opponents. What is sad is LGF leading the assault on the truly sane and thoughtful people in this country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

3 posted on 01/26/2010 12:45:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I used to check LGF daily and even have a login still. His explanations are just as nuts as his cult-like followers. I think perhaps he was trying to impress a very lib potential love interest?


4 posted on 01/26/2010 12:47:32 AM PST by Der_Hirnfänger
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To: goldstategop

LGF = liberal gay feminists?


5 posted on 01/26/2010 12:50:05 AM PST by ari-freedom (Obamacare: nananana nananana hey hey hey goodbye!)
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To: ari-freedom
I think it fits CJ's new website to a T. I don't know the reason for his change of heart and I don't care. His reasons for abandoning conservatives are unconvincing and flimsy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

6 posted on 01/26/2010 12:56:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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ARTICLE SNIPPET from the post in link no. 1:


"5. Support for homophobic bigotry (see: Sarah Palin, Dobson, the entire religious right, etc.).

This charge is particularly ugly. It appears that you have decided to fight all the "hate" you allege to be on the right with your own hate. Why exactly is it "homophobic bigotry" to want to maintain the millennia-old definition of marriage as the union of men and women? The hubris of those who not only want to change the definition of the most important institution in society but believe everyone who ever advocated male-female marriage was a bigot -- meaning everyone who ever lived before you, Charles -- is as breathtaking as it is speech-suppressing."

7 posted on 01/26/2010 12:59:02 AM PST by Cindy
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To: goldstategop

I HATE the left, and all shades of enslavers.

Sue me.


8 posted on 01/26/2010 1:06:56 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: goldstategop
I see Charles Johnson uses the word “hate” a lot but if you study the wording of the points he tries to make - they can only be described as hate:

“throwing women back into the Dark Ages, and general religious fanaticism”

“Support for anti-science bad craziness”

“homophobic bigotry”

“A right-wing blogosphere that is almost universally dominated by raging hate speech (see: Hot Air, Free Republic”

“Support for conspiracy theories and hate speech (see: Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Birthers, creationists, climate deniers, etc.).”

“anti-government lunacy”

and more.

One can only conclude that Mr. Johnson could not vent his anger and hatred enough on the political Right so he switched sides to where the real hatred exists, and is often celebrated and rewarded. Which is why he wrote this hate filled trash to begin with.

9 posted on 01/26/2010 1:17:32 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (LOL!!)
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To: goldstategop

I think Dennis concedes too much here. A favorite tactic of the Left is to promote a policy or behavior and label any resistance to that policy or behavior as “hate speech”, “racism”, “sexism”, “homophobia”, etc. So, the Left promotes homosexuality and the redefinition of marriage, and anyone who resists that idea is called a hate-filled “homophobe”. Prager cites a few instances where groups or individuals in Europe or the US resist things like uncontrolled immigration, the spread of Islam, or the destruction of the indigenous culture and concedes that they are “racist” or some such thing. We have the NAACP in the US. Are they racist? If Prager is not willing to say yes, then he should not condemn other such groups either.


10 posted on 01/26/2010 1:23:03 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: goldstategop; All
FYI, FWIW:

Take it for whatever, or what little, it's worth around here, but in 29 years online, the only site that's ever banned me was LGF- for belonging to a site founded at LGF's behest:

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1349431#1349431

Summary:

-Having been summarily banned ( no warning, no “knock it off,” not a word from a man- “Chuckles”- I once gave money to )--

Posted in the

"Just so you know" Dept...

Read it all, as Atlas says, and use the links...

Click the picture below,

hit "skip to comments," then hit "last"-- using the "find" function in your browser, enter the search string "blogwarz" and hunt backwards.


11 posted on 01/26/2010 2:04:29 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: goldstategop
Little Pink Puffballs. On their way out the door with the rest of the fascists that dominate the Democrat Party.


12 posted on 01/26/2010 2:04:58 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Marsha Coakley's been teabagged. Congrats Scott Brown! Mary Jo finally got even.)
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To: goldstategop

Dennis Prager said we’re not nuts! Yaaaa! Also that we’re not bigots! I feel so validated. (Actually, I like Dennis Prager.)

I agree with him, this site is far more rational than its liberal counterpart, DU.


13 posted on 01/26/2010 2:50:08 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts)
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To: goldstategop

Who cares what Charles Johnson thinks? He’s just one of literally thousands of people with an opinion and a web page.

What I love is that they become so full of themselves that they feel compelled to make these grand proclamations on why they do this or that. Who really gives a s**t? Seriously?

LGF is nothing more than a ego vehicle, just like The Daily Kos.


14 posted on 01/26/2010 3:13:22 AM PST by MDspinboyredux
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To: MDspinboyredux
Who cares what Charles Johnson thinks? He’s just one of literally thousands of people with an opinion and a web page.

His latest rant is like a disgruntled FR poster, who, after saying he is leaving FR because of x,y or z, posts a 10 point thread with reasons so idiotic that no one could understand them.

Who cares?

Not me.

15 posted on 01/26/2010 5:22:54 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: goldstategop

No, let’s not stipulate that “Pat Buchanan is an anti-Semite and racist.” Pat Buchanan is neither. Otherwise, I agree completely with your comment.

Anti-Semite and racist are heavily loaded words, regularly thrown around recklessly, often as diatribes designed to cut off discussion or debate. They should be used carefully; otherwise, they lose their force.


16 posted on 01/26/2010 5:26:46 AM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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To: goldstategop

I have two words about this whole affair.

Who cares?


17 posted on 01/26/2010 8:39:40 AM PST by Nahanni
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To: goldstategop
With respect to FR, Johnson is either massively ignorant, or he's throwing words around so carelessly it amounts to the same thing. "Fascist" does, after all, have a meaning, and so does "racist." "Hate speech" does not.

Johnson just isn't worth worrying about. He is useful now exclusively to those on the left who want a tool with which to bash the right. The difference between him and Levi Johnston is that mercifully he hasn't taken his clothing off for the camera. Yet.

18 posted on 01/26/2010 8:56:51 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop; Basic_Common_Sense

Let’s ping Charles sock puppet handle here on FR and see what the master bad crazy lizard says about this.
Hey Charles, get your lying butt over here.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:basiccommonsense/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

(For those who don’t know, Charles lurks on FR, mentally masturbating over his perceptions of racism and bigotry in everything and everyone out there -except HIS racism and igtry!_ and then blogging about it. Well, we goaded him into posting, and that handle is known as “Basic Common Sense”, where he tries to sound like someone else. That’s some real strong mental psychosis there..)

With any luck, Charles will entertain us some more.


19 posted on 01/26/2010 9:22:59 AM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Der_Hirnfänger

His hand?


20 posted on 01/26/2010 9:27:06 AM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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