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Barack Obama Nationality Scandal
Independant News ^ | January 9, 2010

Posted on 01/09/2010 1:34:54 PM PST by Red Steel

There have been rumbles of unrest around the world regarding Obama’s nationality since the day he stated he would run for the presidency. Now, after more than a year as president of the USA, the rumbles have turned into a full on eruption.

The Barack Obama nationality scandal is refusing to burn itself out and seems to be gathering even more speed with Congressman Nathan Deal questioning the eligibility of Obama to hold the presidency. This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.

Over the last week the internet has been reporting this story with the blogosphere almost going into meltdown over the latest developments yet no mainstream media seem interested in the story that just won’t go away for Obama.

Congressman Deal asked the president to prove that he is legally entitled to hold the presidency electronically on December 1st 2009. This communication was confirmed received by Obama’s staff but has yet to be responded to.

Even though the president has already produced his short-form birth certificate in order to stop these questions, he has spent a large amount of taxpayers money (estimated to be more than two million dollars) ensuring that the long-form certificate is kept from the public – an action that has raised more than a few eyebrows along the way.

Throughout the campaign trail and longer, Obama made promises of the most transparent administration than any other so why the need to hide a simple birth certificate? Many claim that the whole situation is a complete waste of time and distracting but supporters of the question refuse to stop asking more and more questions.

It seems that the original question seems to have caused a stir not just in America but worldwide with thousands of people doing independent research in an attempt to get the facts out. The problem with independent research is that it is hard to verify where the alleged facts came from and when they are traced back its not unusual to find that it stemmed from opinion.

With several birth certificates doing the rounds, many proven as hoaxes, the ‘official’ birth certificate in the Obama nationality scandal seems to prove that the president was in fact a British Subject at birth. On the website dedicated to protecting Obama from smears, Fight The Smears, there is an electronic copy of the birth certificate showing that Obama was born a British Subject. This in itself has been the cause for much speculation on how, why and when nationality was transferred.

Obama’s nationality scandal doesn’t seem to be going anywhere at the moment and even the secret service seem to be taking an interest in anyone questioning Obama’s nationality with visits being made for security reasons. Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated.

No matter what side of the fence you sit on this scandal seems set to stay around for a long time to come.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; nathandeal; obama; startroll; trollisback; trollsonfr
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To: screaminsunshine
"It would seem so logical just to release the information instead of letting it be used in negative ways..just wondering?"

I'm not going to pretend to know, but sometimes the answer is not the darkest conspiracy ... it is the most simple: there is absolutely nothing that requires him to release the info. He is sitting in the oval office and has been for a year and he strikes me as one smug SOB. It is also most likely that the ones demanding the BC would just find something else to complain about.

141 posted on 01/09/2010 6:35:46 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Star Traveler

Per your link: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago”

You are right. It simply doesn’t get any more definitive than that. They have the original documentation. They have the electronic database from which current certificates are printed. They’ve looked at their records and state uncategorically that Obama was born in Hawaii. Absent some real, compelling evidence that they are lying, no court would need or ask to see the original birth certificate even if one of these cases ever got to that point, which they won’t.


142 posted on 01/09/2010 6:36:43 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: Star Traveler
“But, for me, what makes a difference is not that — but rather — that the State of Hawaii, who holds the records on Obama’s birthplace, says that those records say that he was born in Hawaii. And since it's the State of Hawaii who produces any certified birth certificate for someone who requests it there — that means that they do know what they're talking about (I mean, they keep, maintained and certify the birthplace...).

That's all I have to know...”

Well said.

143 posted on 01/09/2010 6:40:03 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: wintertime

I read blogs and post to a few but I don’t discuss this with people unless they bring it up. I have had lifelong Democrat folks bring it up to me. So, I think it is a much bigger issue than many realize. Not just his birth certificate but all the stuff he says and does that just doesn’t make any sense.


144 posted on 01/09/2010 6:49:31 PM PST by Jude in WV
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To: fanfan; Frantzie

Others on previous threads have postulated that it would not be such a danger for an “Indonesian” to travel to Pakistan. Americans otoh cautioned against it.


145 posted on 01/09/2010 6:51:24 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

The info and source has been posted. Seems if you wanted to know so badly you would research it.


146 posted on 01/09/2010 6:55:27 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Red Steel; Star Traveler

How does it feel being accused of obama derangement syndrome by someone who is a proven fraud and liar at FR? ... ST is deceit personified, and has even been told to stay off of the birth issue threads, but here it is, protected as before!


147 posted on 01/09/2010 7:00:19 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Red Steel

Thanks - I always appreciate pings. Seems as though things are picking up.


148 posted on 01/09/2010 7:01:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Star Traveler

Hawaii says they’ve seen the original they didn’t say he was born there. If you look up the thread from the past couple days regarding Hawaii law at the time of O’s dob.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2423856/posts


149 posted on 01/09/2010 7:03:59 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Yep, at least he is doing a relly good job of destroying the Dementocrats. November will be really interesting. I am hoping they can not pass the ridiculous Health Bill. Maybe they will get cold feet.


150 posted on 01/09/2010 7:08:56 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.
Thanks FARS.
151 posted on 01/09/2010 7:11:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
You don’t spend as much on legal bills as 0bama has, if you’re not hiding something.

Sounds like common sense thinking. However I will ALWAYS remember a tyrant dictator, also with the name HUSSEIN, who spent years overtly hiding WMD from the world community that now, according to the common wisdom of today's elites, he didn't have.

After that fiasco NOTHING will ever surprise me again, including the fascist in office fighting tooth an nail to prevent all of US from seeing a birth certificate that just may prove he was born in Hawaii.

152 posted on 01/09/2010 7:14:29 PM PST by PISANO
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To: danamco

Not sure of his employer but his name was Lt. Quarles Harris


153 posted on 01/09/2010 7:17:39 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: tutstar
Hawaii has explicitly stated that, after reviewing their records, Obama was born in Hawaii. See the link Star Traveler provided early in this thread, or visit the Hawaii state government web page to find them on your own.
154 posted on 01/09/2010 7:20:24 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: Red Steel

You cannot hold the Nationality of ANY other Nation other than that of American in the instant of your birth and be a Natural Born Citizen.

From the instant he was conceived, Obama could NEVER be a Natural Born Citizen, he was born British and American. He is an Usurper, and this entire Government is unconstitutional.

Those who have covered Barry’s ass should rot in prison with him. Yea, YOU Nancy, you too Harry.


155 posted on 01/09/2010 7:22:09 PM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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To: tutstar

His employer was John Brennan, the same Brennan whom Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Obama, aka Barack Obama appointed as security czar and whom we’ve seen on the airways telling us about the whys and wherefores of the Detroit suspect who tried to blow up an airliner and murder hundreds. The stench from this administration is pure criminal enterprise democrat party, and it has a small army of apologists working sites like FreeRepublic.com daily to cover for the criminal affirmative action bastard. Some of these agitprops even try to establish themselves as Bible scholars yet don’t even have the facts regarding the story of the Good Samaritan straight. If ST keeps posting on this thread, I’ll share the evidence with all.


156 posted on 01/09/2010 7:22:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Reily
...however it's difficult to see how some shiftless college student(like Zero was in the 1980s) could just up & go. Also travel there was expensive it wasn't like get cheap bus tickets and then stay at the Islamabad Howard Johnson's!

The connection between Turbo Tax Timmy Geitner's daddy and the purple lipped Kenyan's mom got him there. Look for the connection between pappa G and momma D.

157 posted on 01/09/2010 7:35:40 PM PST by IrishPennant (If you can accept losing, you can't win. ~ Vince Lombardi)
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To: Red Steel
I thought Obama found the little money fairy who pays for all his legal bills.

He did find it. The little money fairy is the American tax payer.

158 posted on 01/09/2010 7:41:14 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: screaminsunshine
I just saw that a guy was arrested for going to Pakistan for Terrorism. Now. I heard that Obama went to Pakistan at a time when Pakistan would not allow Americans to go there with US Passports. Does anybody know if this is true? If it is what would it mean?

What it means is that Obama was using his Indonesian passport. Since he was a naturalized citizen of Indonesia. Hence the name Barry Soetoro.

In the end, what is at issue with this is: if he used an Indonesian passport after the age of 18, then it was a conscious decision and he is no longer a citizen of the USA.

What's key here is that if we assume that Barry was born in Hawaii as stated, he was dragged off to Indonesia by his muslim loving mother, and renounced his citizenship as a minor. His US citizenship could/should be restored if after the age of majority if he decided to assert his US citizenship.

Now, what does him using his Indonesian passport have to do with anything? I would think that using that passport for travel after the age of 18 he has given his consent to the renouncing of his US citizenship. A minor cannot renounce their citizenship, it can only be done for them by a parent. And even then, when that minor reaches the age of majority they have to choose. And by using that passport to travel to places that he would be barred entry on a US passport means that he chose to renounce his citizenship.

Now if we assume that Barry was born in Hawaii, renounced his citizenship and then had a change of heart, and wanted to reclaim his US citizenship, would he still qualify as natural born? I don't know the answer to that but it is complicated to say the least. I would think that he is no longer considered eligible because he's not natural born but naturalized.

A little more grist for the mill.

159 posted on 01/09/2010 7:44:21 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Star Traveler; All

You appear to have your own little real world that none of us inhabit.

Be happy but don’t mix your delusions with reality. In the real world, where being a Catholic is not blasphemous. (No, I am not a Catholic just a citizen of this planet, where “my Jesus” is no worse nor better than “your Jesus”. You sound just like a jihadi Moslem accusing non-Moslems!))

And your Messiah (except for nationality) fits well into “Allah” and the global Caliphate. Perhaps you are not so different from Oba-Hussein and just imagine you are.

Your replies are very courteous and Christian-like but in another reality - outer space, star traveller.

You are certainly a good, well intentioned person but....


160 posted on 01/09/2010 7:45:18 PM PST by FARS (Be well, be happy and THRIVE! Happy New Year.)
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