Posted on 01/09/2010 1:34:54 PM PST by Red Steel
There have been rumbles of unrest around the world regarding Obama’s nationality since the day he stated he would run for the presidency. Now, after more than a year as president of the USA, the rumbles have turned into a full on eruption.
The Barack Obama nationality scandal is refusing to burn itself out and seems to be gathering even more speed with Congressman Nathan Deal questioning the eligibility of Obama to hold the presidency. This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.
Over the last week the internet has been reporting this story with the blogosphere almost going into meltdown over the latest developments yet no mainstream media seem interested in the story that just won’t go away for Obama.
Congressman Deal asked the president to prove that he is legally entitled to hold the presidency electronically on December 1st 2009. This communication was confirmed received by Obama’s staff but has yet to be responded to.
Even though the president has already produced his short-form birth certificate in order to stop these questions, he has spent a large amount of taxpayers money (estimated to be more than two million dollars) ensuring that the long-form certificate is kept from the public – an action that has raised more than a few eyebrows along the way.
Throughout the campaign trail and longer, Obama made promises of the most transparent administration than any other so why the need to hide a simple birth certificate? Many claim that the whole situation is a complete waste of time and distracting but supporters of the question refuse to stop asking more and more questions.
It seems that the original question seems to have caused a stir not just in America but worldwide with thousands of people doing independent research in an attempt to get the facts out. The problem with independent research is that it is hard to verify where the alleged facts came from and when they are traced back its not unusual to find that it stemmed from opinion.
With several birth certificates doing the rounds, many proven as hoaxes, the ‘official’ birth certificate in the Obama nationality scandal seems to prove that the president was in fact a British Subject at birth. On the website dedicated to protecting Obama from smears, Fight The Smears, there is an electronic copy of the birth certificate showing that Obama was born a British Subject. This in itself has been the cause for much speculation on how, why and when nationality was transferred.
Obama’s nationality scandal doesn’t seem to be going anywhere at the moment and even the secret service seem to be taking an interest in anyone questioning Obama’s nationality with visits being made for security reasons. Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated.
No matter what side of the fence you sit on this scandal seems set to stay around for a long time to come.
Since the question of nationality at birth of parents is also in the picture the Hawaii statement CANNOT be definitive and final - nor has legs on which to stand since it is missing that factor.
I've seen this group (i.e., the ones protesting that Obama is not qualified per the Constitution) break into two segments. One has to do with the birthplace, while the other has to do with qualifications per the parents.
As far as the birthplace is concerned, that's a done deal as far as I can see and as far as the overwhelming majority of the voting electorate is concerned, too -- either conservatives or liberals.
The other part may generate a difference of opinion, even with conservatives themselves -- but -- I can see clearly that the overwhelming number of conservatives don't buy into your explanation in regards to the parents, and neither do I.
BUT..., I'm more than willing to hear a Supreme Court decision on it, so I would suggest getting that going as soon as possible... :-)
It'll be around for a long time to come because apparently the American public doesn't have standing on the issue and because he'll never allow his records to be seen by anyone because he's a fraud. One doesn't go to such extent over nothing.
Why doesn't Obama show his birth certificate in a court to put the matter to rest?
The simplest answer is usually the best answer... "Because he doesn't have to..."
Unfortunately, I believe the method they will choose will be to assassinate him (G-d forbid!), which will lead to the criminalization of conservatism and political dissent, G-d forbid.
The simplest answer is usually the best answer... "Because he doesn't have to..."
The simplest solution is usually the best solution -- "Enact a state law requiring a candidate to show his birth certificate or else he cannot be on the ballot in that state."
As an adopted son of Indonesia, he has loyalties to Indonesia which flies in the face of what the founding fathers wanted to avoid. At current count he's a son of England, Kenya, Indonesia, America (which he hates), and possibly Canada. Any wonder he made the comment back when he was a Senator that it's a good thing he wasn't running for President.
I made no statement and have no facts. I asked a question.
A pitifully lame answer.
For the president of the United States not to prove his credulity over something of a routine matter makes Obama's obstinacy absurd.
That’s the 64 thousand dollar question. Why didn’t anyone in congress or Cheney or Bush or even Hillary question eligibility when they had the chance before the election. Also curious is why Hillary was suddenly shunned by the powers that be when she had the public support. She was quickly put in the corner with a bowl of pudding and ignored every time she tried to speak up. I can see someone having the goods on her and Bill but I can’t see how the whole of DC let this pass.
But the messiah wasn’t naturally born at all, but immaculately conceived
If you're talking about the Immaculate Conception, well, I'm not Catholic and that's a blasphemy in and of itself, as far as I'm concerned... :-)
Sorry but there is no such thing as the "Immaculate Conception" as it's known and understood to be. But, then again, I'm sure you'll get a whole bunch of people here who will tell you differently, too ...
And as far as I'm concerned, there's only One true Messiah and that's the one I posted about in Post #80.
A pitifully lame answer.
That's the trouble with "reality" at times -- it is pitifully lame... LOL...
I'm sure "conspiracy theories" are much more exciting, which is why people have so much fun with them and invest so much of themselves in them...
That’s the 64 thousand dollar question. Why didn’t anyone in congress or Cheney or Bush or even Hillary question eligibility when they had the chance before the election. Also curious is why Hillary was suddenly shunned by the powers that be when she had the public support. She was quickly put in the corner with a bowl of pudding and ignored every time she tried to speak up. I can see someone having the goods on her and Bill but I can’t see how the whole of DC let this pass.
Once again, I invoke the principle that the simplest answer is the best answer..., you see...
The reason why everyone else who could have objected -- totally across the board -- did not object, is (very simply) -- they did not see the issue as how it's being construed here.
In other words, they saw it as Obama being born in Hawaii, and they saw it as "he's a natural born (American) citizen"...
It's just that simple... no more and no less...
What scholarship's are those? Name one from say Occidental collage.
The political action committee ‘Obama for America’ paid $1,066,691.90 to the Perkins Coie law firm between Oct. 16, 2008 and March 30, 2009, to fight every request to release Obama’s original birth records.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Obama_birth_certificate_lawsuits#cite_note-9
Oh that's the 'integrity' that Star Traveler likes in her president.
The question remains fool why does Obama hides virtually all the documents of any meaning that would help define who he is from the public?
That's not a conspiracy fool that's a fact.
All your nonsense you speak of shows your intellectual dishonesty and where your selfish interests lay.
Either 1) she was given a prepared script from RAT lawyers who know darned well that terminology isn't in the Constitution but found it useful to confuse the sheeple, 2) she's an idiot who has no idea what she's talking about, or 3) both.
I thought Obama found the little money fairy who pays for all his legal bills.
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He did, the fairy is us.... the tax payers.
After his amnesty bill goes through, he’ll have nothing to worry about.
Oh that's the 'integrity' that Star Traveler likes in her president.
Sorry to have to inform you -- but -- I voted for the GOP candidates... :-) ... you know the Palin one...
All your nonsense you speak of shows your intellectual dishonesty and where your selfish interests lay.
I'm only interested on these threads to get to the reality of the issue, as it pertains to us who live in the normal world... and that's about it.
It seems that several others are more interested in wild theories and conspiracies more than dealing with what happens in real life...
Why hasn't a court asked to see it.
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