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Mom of 9 cries foul (Claim: I was sterilized against my will)
The Boston Herald ^ | 01/03/2010 | By Jessica Fargen

Posted on 01/03/2010 6:23:12 AM PST by Bluestateredman

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To: Bluestateredman

Once you start taking the people’s money, you are obligated to the people’s wishes. That’s the problem with public healthcare.


61 posted on 01/03/2010 10:00:22 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Dianna

Wow. A cogent, morally sound argument. Good job. :)


62 posted on 01/03/2010 10:43:53 AM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: Bluestateredman

I don’t see much difference between her and Octolips.


63 posted on 01/03/2010 10:45:32 AM PST by Fast Moving Angel (GOP: Stop listening, start doing -- we need new leaders!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Or expected to contribute to Social Security, the Military if youre not enlisted, public schools if you don’t have kids, etc etc. Its called Democracy.


64 posted on 01/03/2010 11:07:58 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: 3catsanadog
That's the damn truth. Some people are well aware that companies will settle out of court. I had a neighbor once, and he and his wife got 3 different slip and fall judgments, all in the thousands. I think they made out to the tune of 30-35k all together.

I was in the hospital once, having an appendectomy, and they brought in a guy who'd tripped and broken his hip at a bank. I had to listen to his lawyer tell him they were going to sue, because even though the bank had a sign saying to stay behind the rope, they placed the rope low enough that he was tempted and able to step over it.

The damn guy didn't wait his turn, intentionally stepped over the velvet rope they marked with a sign, tripped and busted his hip, and he was suing the bank. Because his lawyer told him that in similar incidents, banks would normally settle out of court, rather than fight a sympathetic jury and risk losing more money. He told him he'd probably be able to get him a figure in the low 40k range, without having to go to court. It's pathetic.

65 posted on 01/03/2010 11:10:14 AM PST by TheLurkerX (If you want renewable energy, I'm sure the founding fathers are spinning in their graves.)
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To: Soothesayer9
Supporting the military, education, and social security are very much different from subsidizing some round heeled skank who can't stay on her feet and keep her knees together.

If you believe that we should be required to subsidize the breeding of generation after generation of welfare dependent socialist democrats I think you're on the wrong forum!

66 posted on 01/03/2010 11:32:17 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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Too bad we ever went down the road of providing for peoples daily needs...

I do hope we can get to the point that assistance will be limited to only 2 or 3 children. Help those who fall on hard times is fine, providing a gravy train for procreatory parasites is killing the country. Look what it has done in the UK. Stunning and shameful policies have ENCOURAGED women to breed when they can’t provide for them and to AVOID marriage or legal partnership in order to receive more compensation from the government. This is NATIONAL SUICIDE.

In the UK, they give unwed mothers from age 16 their own flats at the expense of the taxpayers. Why not offer an excellent adoption agency network? Also in the UK, there are women raking in a very good living after giving birth several times over. Gov’t policy has promoted the enslavement of taxpayers and created a bounty system for live births. Shameful.

Countries need to expand their population to continue growing. Why not foster population increase by giving working families [via marriage or legal partnership] greater tax incentives and diminish the incentives for giving birth when unemployed or underemployed?

Singapore offers married women with a college degree an incentive to bring a child into the world.

Personally, I’d rather pay very little to the fed and a fair amount in state and local taxes, for constitutionally mandated items, and those which are truly best left to the government...then have them stay the heck out of my life. However, the current situation is such that the underclass is offered the greatest incentive to breed. The very wealthy don’t have the same financial concerns as those in the middle [which includes EVERYBODY who works for a living and cannot afford to quit and live off of accrued wealth]


67 posted on 01/03/2010 12:00:34 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Bluestateredman
While "society" doesn't have a right to preclude another pregnancy, we DO have the right to refuse any additional monies to the household.

We need a rule: Two strikes (two kids) and you're out. If a "mother" has a SECOND child while receiving public assistance, she better be able to provide for it...under the threat of "neglect".

Should she be found "neglecting" her children, they should be removed from the home and placed into foster care until such time as the mother can show the ability to provide.

68 posted on 01/03/2010 12:18:11 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Bluestateredman
Did a quick search for non-Hogdkin Lymphoma. Hit the Wiki or the Mayo clinic for detailed info.

These paragraphs stood out to me, especially after seeing her youthful, plump picture in the article:

Age: Although non-Hodgkin lymphoma can occur in young people, the chance of developing this disease goes up with age. Most people with non-Hodgkin lymphoma are older than 60. (For information about this disease in children, call the NCI's Cancer Information Service at 1-800-4-CANCER.)

It's important for you to take care of yourself by eating well and staying as active as you can.

You need the right amount of calories to maintain a good weight. You also need enough protein to keep up your strength. Eating well may help you feel better and have more energy.

Sometimes, especially during or soon after treatment, you may not feel like eating. You may be uncomfortable or tired. You may find that foods do not taste as good as they used to. In addition, the side effects of treatment (such as poor appetite, nausea, vomiting, or mouth sores) can make it hard to eat well. Your doctor, a registered dietitian, or another health care provider can suggest ways to deal with these problems.

Many people find they feel better when they stay active. Walking, yoga, swimming, and other activities can keep you strong and increase your energy. Exercise may reduce nausea and pain and make treatment easier to handle. It also can help relieve stress. Whatever physical activity you choose, be sure to talk to your doctor before you start. Also, if your activity causes you pain or other problems, be sure to let your doctor or nurse know about it.

Now, we know nothing about her medical record except her word, but in light of the LIRR fake disability retirements (and present in every city and government in the country), I really wonder how this woman got SSI for the lymphoma. If it is in recess, then she should be off SSI. Besides, no one that I know that has ANY cancer is gaining weight or getting pregnant.

I suspect that this is another case of doctor shopping to find an excuse to pay her SSI.

69 posted on 01/03/2010 12:38:04 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

According to the article she signed for the sterilization.

The comments on the website further include comments about the care she provides for the children. Not much apparently.


70 posted on 01/03/2010 12:38:58 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Plese help me out here, ladyjane. This is what I see in the article (cut and paste):

"Savicki said she did not sign a written consent for a tubal ligation, which under federal and state regulations is required at least 30 days in advance for all MassHealth patients who want a permanent sterilization procedure."

[Attorney] Borten provided the Herald with a Baystate Medical Center letter on Savicki’s case, signed on May 22, 2009, by an employee of the hospital’s Health Information Management System department. It reads: “We regret to tell you that in spite of carefully and thoroughly searching, we have been unable to locate the following medical records: ‘Tubal consent form for December 2006.’ ”

So she says she didn't sign, and they say they don't have the signed consent form.

Or am I missing something?

71 posted on 01/03/2010 1:01:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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To: CholeraJoe

“The hereditary pattern of Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma has not been established.”

That’s interesting I hadn’t heard that. Do you know someone who has it?


72 posted on 01/03/2010 1:06:59 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
“Three generations of imbeciles is enough” is a quote from supreme court justice Oliver Wendel Holmes Jr., upholding a Maryland statute allowing involuntary sterilization. Used by me in this instance ironically.

You are aware that Holmes was agreeing that it was just dandy to sterilize a rape victim and the child of the rape?

The "imbecile" mother had almost no formal education but was very well read on a variety of subjects and the "imbecile" little girl was an honor student. But hey, let the state sterilize her because she got raped in the foster home that they stuck her in, the lousy ingrate.

The case was basically a text book case on why the state should never be allowed the power to sterilize someone.

73 posted on 01/03/2010 1:11:25 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Bluestateredman

She’s on the dole, has been on the dole for a very long time, and will likely be on the dole for the foreseeable future. Her naughty bits are thus State property and I see no problem with the State managing its property as it sees fit. Don’t like it? Stop asking the State to pay for your poor choices.


74 posted on 01/03/2010 1:17:58 PM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ketelone

I don’t care if she is sterilized or not.
I do care that I support her kids.

The limit for gov’t funds should be three. Let her have 12, but let the gov’t pay for 3. As my wise old daddy used to say, anyone can make a mistake, a fool makes it twice, third time is intentional. Cut the money at that point.

Having a litter at the trough is not my responsibility.


75 posted on 01/03/2010 1:20:32 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Irony is wasted on some bears.


76 posted on 01/03/2010 1:43:55 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: PapaBear3625
I would be in favor of sterilization as a condition for receiving welfare.

Now, that I could live with.

77 posted on 01/03/2010 3:13:34 PM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Mariner

I like your idea much better than forced sterilization. Not allowing another child to join the family while still on welfare is brilliant. We’d have a huge need for more foster parents, though.

Forced sterilization should never be an option. Granted, the woman truly has no business bringing another child into the world right now. However, they may be financially stable in the next few years and be able to pay for their own kids. They should be able to make that decision to have a child together.


78 posted on 01/03/2010 3:53:18 PM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: freebilly

Welfare is voluntary last time I checked.


79 posted on 01/03/2010 5:58:05 PM PST by omega4179 (Marco2010)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

My father has it. None of his doctors or any of our own research have warned of a genetic component.


80 posted on 01/04/2010 3:35:43 PM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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