Posted on 01/01/2010 1:45:09 PM PST by TitansAFC
He said people needed to change how they live their lives and called for "ecological responsibility" to be taught in schools.....
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
11. It is becoming more and more evident that the issue of environmental degradation challenges us to examine our life-style and the prevailing models of consumption and production, which are often unsustainable from a social, environmental and even economic point of view. We can no longer do without a real change of outlook which will result in new life-styles, “in which the quest for truth, beauty, goodness and communion with others for the sake of common growth are the factors which determine consumer choices, savings and investments”.[26] Education for peace must increasingly begin with far-reaching decisions on the part of individuals, families, communities and states. We are all responsible for the protection and care of the environment. This responsibility knows no boundaries. In accordance with the principle of subsidiarity it is important for everyone to be committed at his or her proper level, working to overcome the prevalence of particular interests. A special role in raising awareness and in formation belongs to the different groups present in civil society and to the non-governmental organizations which work with determination and generosity for the spread of ecological responsibility, responsibility which should be ever more deeply anchored in respect for “human ecology”.[emphases in original]
Did you catch that? "We are all responsible for the protection and care of the environment. This responsibility knows no boundaries." But don't worry -- before anyone can start fretting, the vaunted principle of subsidiarity comes to the rescue in the very next sentence.
BTW, footnote #26 from this excerpt refers to section 36 of JPII's _Centesimus annus_ (1991), which falls under a heading called "PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE UNIVERSAL DESTINATION OF MATERIAL GOODS."
Cheers!
It has begun to be clear to me . . . that even this Pope . . . as admirable and respectable as he is . . .
Fairly clearly IS serving the role of conditioning, preparing, justifying, softening, adjusting the paradigm of . . . the world--certainly 'his flock' for tyrannical globalism.
I WISH IT WERE NOT SO.
However, I have to face the fact that the oligarchy is doing the same thing vis a vis the UFO stuff.
Just as I have to face those facts, regardless of my distaste for them--I must also face the facts vis a vis Pope Benedict. There's No longer any choice, nor wiggle room to equivocate about it to the person in my mirror.
And, the globalist oligarchy has evidently set him up; enlisted him; tricked him; persuaded him; commanded him, something--to fill a similar role in preparing the world's populace to surrender wholesale . . . to the 'new paradigms' vis a vis private property, the environment, peace, relationships with governments and one another . . . non-governmental orgs [includes churches, folks], etc.
The oligarchy has technologies that would, IN DECENTRALIZED FASHION [read, loss of their centralized tyranny over individuals via centralized power, water, transportation fuels etc.] provide plenty of very cheap means to run homes and businesses and make the desert bloom.
They have been persuaded literally by the king of hell that in order for mankind and the planet to survive, the population has to be reduced to 200 million, globally. They have been convinced that were such technologies to be released to the world as it is, the massive increase in babies would doom us all--environmentlaly and otherwise.
Besides, such masses of people are not so easily CONTROLLED in the tyrannical, death dealing ways that the oligarchy finds so comfortable, even insists on.
They have been deluded into the fantasy that they can turn the planet into largely a vast International Park for their playground with sufficient slaves and serfs to make everything beautiful [literally erase evidence of man and his blight on the planet in most areas] and provide plenty of slave labor to keep their playgrounds and other operations running splendidly.
I don't know if the Pope believes all that hogwash, or not. He certainly writes as though he's swallowed the whole set of paradigms hook, line and sinker.
He certainly writes as though he's preparing his flock and the world for such massive shifts in mankind's way of living. I don't see how ANY fair-minded person can read such writings and come to any other conclusion.
Just as the UFO stuff has been incrementally ramping up at a faster and faster clip toward fuller disclosure--so the office of the Pope has been incrementally ramping up writings and statements increasingly conditioning his flock and the world toward accepting massive changes in our lifestyles and governance.
Thoughtful reading of his words, phrases, sentences cannot rationally allow for any other conclusion, imho. He's not talking about business as usual in any sense of the word.
He's NOT championing capitalism nor private property nor anything else but the new paradigms.
Solidarity, imho, is a straw dog. It's a false milk sop.
Oh, it's a wonderful notion. Solididarity COULD, in the hands of a Godly government, foster tremendous good.
But that's not the destiny and he must know it.
Even the globalists like to pontificate about leaving individuals free on the personal level to live as they like "as long as they don't harm anyone else." That sounds like quite a huge degree of 'solididarity.'
However, when the jack boots insist on the chip implant and the worship of satan to get food and avoid the guillotine . . . I wonder how tastey such solididarity will be then. How free will the individual and local groups be to do the good Christian thing, THEN?
Wake-up, folks. Times are a changin'.
Folks can pretend and comfort themselves that these words are the mad, wild rantings of a stupid clueless idiot psychotic psychologist UFO crazy as long as daily life and world events let them get away with it.
Sooner or later, Pope Benedict's words will VERY CLEARLY become a mild sad, sick joke vis a vis the realities slamming global citizens in the face daily. They will be seen as a slightly early [not really but seemingly early] flag that life as we have known it more or less for 100's of years--in terms of governments, production of goods, inter-relationships, forces related to all the essentials of daily life--were going to be massively wholesale and FORCEFULLY CHANGED--never to be the same again.
Pope Benedict IS AT LEAST saying--in effect--wake up--things are NOT going to stay the same. They cannot and will not. They are not going to be allowed to stay the same. He IS right about that. He's very coy, however, in his wording, about a lot of 'therefore what's.'
He has described it in the best bureaucratic/ political/ theological/ sociological mushy, warm fuzzy clap-trap.
Only the very discerning and thoughtful will see the steel teeth even in the Pope's words and images of the future. They are clearly there. Many are willfully blind and will not see them until such facts and realities slap them in the face and in the rear . . . in the wallet and in the stomach.
I wish I could roll over and go back to sleep and pretend it's all a nightmare. I cannot. The truth is the truth regardless of how inconvenient or uncomfortable. And a watchman has a duty to warn others.
Consider yourself warned.
GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL.
Blessed be the Name of The Lord.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD. BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD. BLESSED BE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD. BLESSED BE THE PROVISION AND PROTECTION OF THE LORD.
Perhaps I'm being too political, but I think the Vatican has missed the boat on the AGW issue. Had the Pope (and his predecessor) remained clearly noncommittal, then there'd be a real chance to hold up AGW as a classic example of the "Arrogance of Man without God"...perhaps translated to "Arrogant Godless Wonders" once it hit the street. If timed right, such a missive would have a huge impact - especially since the "Arrogance" in this case centers around a group that's forsaken scientific integrity for political influence.
Imagine: a missive that condemns arrogance-in-a-labcoat and sticks up for proper scientific procedure. That's the chance that the Vatican has missed, in my opinion.
Yes, you are correct about the “Arrogance of Man” but that is what I thought the Pope keeps chiding us about in a gentle Fatherly way. Humility is a big part of the Catholic Church although corruption and perfection on Earth is not possible. I see him as trying to nudge us in the correct direction, not command us, since we do have Free Will.
I also see the extension of the Church becoming too soft and unsure of itself in the wake of corruption and public opinion and find the Church too lenient with excommunication and not strong enough when denouncing the popular culture and Islamic actions. But then, main stream media does not agree with the Vatican on much of anything, so they will distort and refuse to publish much of the thought that comes out of that institution.
Yes, you are correct about the “Arrogance of Man” but that is what I thought the Pope keeps chiding us about in a gentle Fatherly way. Humility is a big part of the Catholic Church although corruption and perfection on Earth is not possible. I see him as trying to nudge us in the correct direction, not command us, since we do have Free Will.
I also see the extension of the Church becoming too soft and unsure of itself in the wake of corruption and public opinion and find the Church too lenient with excommunication and not strong enough when denouncing the popular culture and Islamic actions. But then, main stream media does not agree with the Vatican on much of anything, so they will distort and refuse to publish much of the thought that comes out of that institution.
And evolution, what's next, gay rights?
“”An objective shared by all, an indispensable condition for peace, is that of overseeing the earth’s natural resources with justice and wisdom,” he said.
Calling for an end to war and in particular the suffering of children, the 82-year-old, German-born pontiff said there was “a close link” between respect for mankind and respect for nature.”
Yeah...an end to war. Unless he was calling for the second coming to come quickly, he was wasting his breath. And why is the suffering of a child different from the suffering of an adult? And who gets to decide if the natural resources are being overseen with justice and wisdom?
It was 50, not 60 years old. I can do arithmetic except for the part with numbers.
A 59 Chateau Margeaux. I’ve been working my way through a case I got in a bequest.
It was at least 30 years too old. You can tell it was wonderful once, but it’s watery. However it has NO rough edges.
We decant it because there is an astonishing amount of sediment. All the corks break as we extract them, but so far we haven’t hit a bottle where the seal went bad. We’ve stored it on its side, as my father did. I’ll bet the corks haven’t been dry a minute since they were put in.
We’ll finish the case between now and Lent.
Ratzy is trying to out-Rick Warren using Rick Warren products. He sees he’s losing market share to Warren and others so he has developed a similar product to sell to the market. One needs to be sensitive to the consumer and the enviro craze is the latest fad. You can’t let a competitor corner the market if you want to retain market-share.
May I say, next time post to me, not to the audience? I HAVE had a classical education. I’m just beginning to learn (all that is wrong with) modern so-called analytical philosophy this year.
The point that I will make again is that the Pope is absolutely authoritative in his own bailiwick, and filial piety encourages me to pay attention and respect to what he says outside his area of responsibility. But I am NOT obliged to agree with, say, his determination about the War on Terror.
“And, the globalist oligarchy has evidently set [the pope] up; enlisted him; tricked him; persuaded him; commanded him, something—to fill a similar role in preparing the world’s populace to surrender wholesale . . . to the ‘new paradigms’ vis a vis private property, the environment, peace, relationships with governments and one another . . . non-governmental orgs [includes churches, folks], etc. “
Humanly speaking it is hard to know precisely who is duping who, and when.
I mean, here we have a religious organization that so strongly emphasizes earthly power (more strongly than teaching about the Christian’ heavenly inheritance] . . . globally. So they have a city state within a country, and the USA, for example, sends TWO ambassadors within the borders of one country-—one to Rome and one to the Vatican.
As far as science goes: I seem to recall recent reports that the Vatican no longer adheres to the actual creation account in the book of Geneis, yielding in very many ways to Darwinian evolutionary science-falsely-so-called. This would suggest to me that they are also more susceptible to following the lies of the environmentalists.
But regardless of who is duping who (humanly speaking), and at what time, you and I both know that behind it all is a SPIRIT -— the same one who works in the children of disobediance. And it of that SPIRITUAL realm with which every genuine Christian is at war (Ehesians ch. 6)
This spiritual realm is denied out of hand by unbelievers, including those among conservatives, and most professing Christians would rather ignore it than stand fast against it. Many Christians have a spirit of fear. FDR said that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Well, FDR didn’t know his head from a pumpkin in regard to the spiritual realm or the spirit of fear. FDR thought that man can simply replace fear with no fear
A spirit of fear did not come from God (2 Timothy 1:7). It came from the anti-God and anti-Christ spiritual world. But there is no such thing as a spirit of no-fear or non-fear. Rather, a spirit of fear is replaced in genuine Christians by a spirit of power, love and a sound mind.
The spirit of fear, though, is actually a spirit of unity.
“Unity” sounds like a good concept (like the word “change” these days), but it is never good or positive when it is between things that should belong to God and things which belong to the world or to the devil.
This is where the Vatican finds itself. Exercising a “unity” with the world and the political realm, and that “unity” cannot be the unity of the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:3) which is the unity the Church should be focused upon now. If it is not the unity of the Holy Spirit, then it is a false unity produced by unclean spirits.
T’anks for the link, D00d.
| He said people needed to change how they live their lives and called for "ecological responsibility" to be taught in schools. | On their own, Pope Benedict’s statements are, on the surface, unassailable and common sense. Ecological responsibility has been taught in schools a long time—around the world. The oligarchy has insured that. And, certainly, it’s foolish to soil one’s own nest. However, the oligarchy has very cleverly chosen a number of ‘sane,’ ‘normal,’ ‘necessary,’ ‘essential,’ issues with which to shoehorn into the global existence of every man, woman and child, THEIR ULTERIAL GOALS AND TYRANNY. Remember how infanticide became a “right?” Remember how some locales are having even house thermostats automatically governed, set, moderated by central governmental power grid headquarters? Certainly environmental stuff is hurting the health of millions around the world. Lots of horrible messes need to be cleaned up. The oligarchy has the capacity to do that with lots of efficient technologies—including cleaning up the residue of atomic power, if they wanted to go that route. There’s several routes they could go. The need and goals are real and fitting. However, the ulterior motives of the oligarchy in USING very legitimate issues in order to deepen, broaden and tighten their death grip on the lives of every individual on the planet are also real—AND ENORMOUSLY UNFITTING, DEADLY, SATANIC—LITERALLY. There are international treaties destroying our Constitution and our Constitutional rights . . . focused and based in large part on environmental issues as justification. Why is the Pope joining that bandwagon without cautioning or rebuking the evils involved? |
| The Pope said individuals and families had as important a role to play in preserving the environment as governments meeting at international summits such as the United Nations climate conference in Copenhagen last month. | Of course individuals and families have an important part to play in avoiding soiling their own nest. Yet, here, the Pope essentially gives the weight of his office and his person to support the UN and even the idiotic craziness that was the Copenhagen conference. Why? Both were hatched in hell. Why is he supporting them? |
| He told thousands of faithful who had gathered in St Peter's Square that environmental responsibility was essential for global peace. | This is an interesting linking—environmental responsibility with GLOBAL peace. A kind of “Prevent war by recycling your plastic bottles” mentality. Yet, lurking between the words is something more ominous. The THREAT of war without environmental lock-step conformity with the GLOBAL MANDATE of the GLOBAL GOVERNMENT. How’s that for ratcheting up the priority level of newspaper recycling? YOU’RE AN ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE because you threw away a bottle.
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| "An objective shared by all, an indispensable condition for peace, is that of overseeing the earth's natural resources with justice and wisdom," he said. | Ahhh . . . an “indispensable condition” for PEACE IS INVOLVED in all this! “The overseeing” . . . ahhhh . . . but who are the OVERSEERS? And who will oversee the overseers? . . . With “justice and wisdom” . . . WHO’S JUSTICE? WHO’S STANDARD? WHO’S CRITERIA? MONITORED BY WHOM? AJUDICATED BY THE WORLD COURT? WITH WHAT CONSEQUENCES? WHO’S WISDOM? BASED ON WHAT FOUNDATION? According to what criteria? NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has great standards for stewardship of the earth. The god of hell [via purported ET’s] has seduced the oligarchy into seeing humans as a blight on the planet. That’s the major reason for infanticide and a health-“care” system that flushes older “useless eaters” down the toilet early. As globalist Ted Turner (founder of CNN) publically asserted—if he were reincarnated, he’d like to come back as an incurable plague to massively destroy mankind. That’s the reason for reducing the global population to 200 million. Sooooo, how is it that the good Pope Benedict has now been found to be sooooo supportive of such goals? The wars the Pope is talking about are wars over resources. The wars over resources have been set up by the oligarchy toward forcing the world population down to 200 million. They are deadly serious about that. Why is the Pope joining them in such schemes? The oligarchy has the means to insure robust energy provision; robust resource availability from food to transportation to other basics. They refuse, for literally hellish reasons. Why is the Pope not demanding that they submit to God and God’s standards, God’s wisdom? Why is he playing their game by their rules? |
| Calling for an end to war and in particular the suffering of children, the 82-year-old, German-born pontiff said there was "a close link" between respect for mankind and respect for nature. "If humanity shames itself, it damages its environment", Benedict said. He appealed for "investment in education with the objective not only to transmit technical and scientific concepts, but also a broader and deeper 'ecological responsibility' based on respect for humanity, human rights and fundamental duties". |
. . . “A close link . . . mankind . . . nature . . .” Ahhhh, yes . . . as GLOBALIST BF Skinner asserted, ‘man is nothing more than a rat, a pigeon or a radish.’ In other words, man is merely a troublesome part of nature. Reduce mankind, reduce the trouble. Fewer serfs and slaves are also easier to !!!!CONTROL!!!! Ahhhhh the suffering of children. The oligarchy has insured poverty and suffering of children around the globe—needlessly. This has been going on willfully for many decades—at least 50-60. How is it that this Pope and all of the others have failed to rail against the oligarchy for their horrific engineered, mandated suffering of so many children and families these decades? Yet, here, Pope Benedict encourages mankind to jump on the oligarchy’s worse than mindless bowing at the god of the environment in behalf of lessening the suffering of children. Kind of leaves me with a sick feeling in my gut. Is he their stooge? If he is the agent of God Almighty—with The God of all Creation behind him—why is he not taking the oligarchy to task on all this? |
| Last month, in a message sent to heads of state and international organizations, Benedict called on rich nations to acknowledge responsibility for the environmental crisis and to rein in consumerism. |
Here we have another favorite theme and strategy of the globalist oligarchy. What do you think the OThuga supported global transaction tax is all about? What do you think the OThuga supported capacity of the world court to haul in Americans et al for environmental infractions is all about? What do you think Shrillery and OThuga’s rantings and manipulations toward ‘spreading the wealth’ is all about? The globalists decided long ago to take the USA and the Western world down many levels toward the 3rd world. The elites long ago decided that they alone were worthy of a lot of the advanced goodies. Certainly rampant consumerism has its own deadly effect on Godly spirituality and warrants the Pope’s censure on a number of grounds having nothing to do with globalism. How is it, then, that he casts it all in a globalist construct and strategy? Why? YES! Rich nations, including the USA, HAVE raped the environment many times over in horrific ways—too often needlessly. However, the oligarchy controls many means to clean things up. They have refused. . Yet, here we have Pope Benedict advocating more of the same sort of globalist mentality—bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator instead of raise the lower up.
Doesn’t sound like the OVERCOMING PROVIDER GOD ORIENTED CHRISTIANITY I KNOW. God have mercy on all who love Him truly and in faith in Him. I PRAY that the Pope divorces himself from the globalists and their agenda and stands tall in behalf of The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. HE NOR HIS FLOCK will have ANY LASTING PEACE any other way. |
I think you’re wrong.
The Pope sent it to world leaders.
THEN it was reported out publicly.
Very well and accurately put, imho.
Thanks.
Unlike some of us on FR, the Holy Father does not lead with disagreement. He affirms what can be affirmed.
As to whose justice, etc.. the formal answer is, "God's justice." And the more practical answer would be found by hacking through the social encyclicals (rather than merely looking for quotes which give the chance to make Catholics look bad -- I'm talking about a real search for the truth, not polemics) and an appreciation of the ideas of subsidiarity and solidarity.
The devil takes them up to a high place and unlike the Lord Jesus, they all say “Yes”
No doubt, Pope John Paul II brought on the USSR’s attempt to assassinate him by his eager acquiescence to the offer of all the kingdoms of the world.
Very interesting! I’ve never had a really old wine. I guess much depends on how it was stored, as well as what kind of wine it was to begin with. Or so I’ve heard...
Drink fast, it’s an early Lent this year!
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