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Free Republic is a fringe right-wing Christian fundamentalist site
12/11/2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/11/2009 5:57:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic is a fringe right-wing Christian fundamentalist site... or so they say... and they might even be right.

We don't go for any of that godless left-wing big government socialist malarkey. And we do put our faith and trust in God, not government. We are pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Family, pro-Country and pro-Liberty.

We do not believe that government or science knows what's best for us or our children. We will make our own decisions thank you very much.

Every once in a while some group of posters get together and try to bend Free Republic to their will. Now, we tend to be pretty free-wheeling around here and will take a lot of guff and a lot of obnoxious insults from a lot of people, but eventually a breaking point is reached.

For example, when a group of RINO lovers recently banded together to try to force FR to accept an abortionist/gay rights RINO as our presidential candidate, they soon found themselves on the outs.

And a few years ago a group of evolutionists tried to force FR over to their way of thinking and they soon found themselves on the outs.

FR is a pro-God, pro-Creator, pro-Life, pro-Liberty site.

And now we have yet another group of Darwinists trying to have their Darwinist way with us. Well, as I've said before what doesn't kill us will only make us stronger.

Darwin Central has again declared war on FR. They have ping lists and email lists and will try to pull away as many FReepers as they possibly can. So be it. Those who would rather go with Darwin, please go. I sure as hell won't try to stop you.

FR will remain a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Liberty, pro-Creator conservative site.

We wholeheartedly believe that our unalienable rights are a gift from God our Creator not from man or government. And no man, no government will ever deprive us of same.

Keep your powder dry.


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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; bert
I believe that God created the earth with one continent about 6000 years ago.

I'd be willing to believe that too if it's really there in the Scriptures, and I'd sure love to explore it if anyone else is.  Some how Genesis taken word by word on its own makes a lot more sense than what so many others like to say is in there.

1,721 posted on 12/13/2009 5:02:00 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I agree that the creation of man is separate and distinct in Genesis.

The way I think about the fossil records and the geological record is this: I think the fossils are evidence of age and time passing with the rise and extinction of animals. Adam and Eve may or may not have been created with navels, but I bet they weren’t created with scars from old wounds.

However, the important point is that we believe in the Creator.


1,722 posted on 12/13/2009 5:03:25 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: GolfingRam; presently no screen name; ansel12; YHAOS

So, let me see if I have this right, from your posting history.

You were a lurker who donated to FR for a while during the time you were lurking, but in spite of your feeling strong enough to support FR financially, never signed up. A couple years ago, presumably while you were still lurking, you became dissatisfied enough with FR to quit your donations.

In March of this year, you (still not donating to FR because you were dissatisfied with it by your own admission), sign up and start a FR account, for some reason.

Yeppers, That makes lots of sense.


1,723 posted on 12/13/2009 5:03:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GolfingRam
The people that have been banned would disagree. Significantly, none have been YEC’ers.

There are YECers who have been banned. I know some.

Tell me, if you only signed up in March, 2009, how do you know that no YECers have been banned? I don't even know any oldtimers who are privy to that information.

1,724 posted on 12/13/2009 5:05:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: presently no screen name
Perhaps, it’s in your link, but for time restraints :) - when (in Christian time) did the Jewish calendar begin? If we are at the 6000 yr mark, there is a discrepancy of approx. 230 yrs off the Jewish calendar 5769. Can you help me out here where this gap is.

Both the source I linked to and Wikipedia have material on the "missing years." They're very well known.

The nub of the argument is the Persian period. According to secular historians this lasted over a hundred years. According to traditional Jewish chronology, the period of Persian rule, between the Persian conquest of Babylonia and Alexander's conquest of Persia, was a mere fifty-two years and presided over by four kings. I'm sure the reference I linked can tell you far more than I ever could.

As to when Jewish chronology begins, traditionally it is from when Adam first spoke after his creation on the Sixth Day. But there is some dispute as to whether the year 1 refers to the year that began with Adam's creation or the "year that never was" that occurred in the Mind of G-d, which would have made Adam's creation the start of the year 2. Also, if Adam died in the year 930 at the age of 930, then the year that began with his creation would have been the year Zero (otherwise he would have been only 929 or 928 years old). There is a dispute about the year of the Roman destruction as well, whether the traditional date refers to the year it occurred or the first year afterward.

Lots of places on the Internet could give you much better information than I. Maybe even some of the Jewish FReepers.

1,725 posted on 12/13/2009 5:08:44 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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To: wagglebee

I won’t get my questions answered either.


1,726 posted on 12/13/2009 5:09:54 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gettinolder
I believe in a literal six-day creation with God resting on the seventh day.

I'm using your statement to point out that God didn't rest because He was tired or needed a break. He rested because He was done, His universe was complete, it didn't need anything to evolve, He did it all.

Much like a painter, he puts him brush down, the pix doesn't need one more brush stroke to complete it. Again, like an attorney, when he rests his case. He's finished, nothing more to add.

So much for the evo's thoughts on the matter - there's a God but he needed help. DONE! FINISHED! is a hard concept for evo's to grasp.

It is ironic to me that these same men quite admitted a creator God, and maybe worshipped him in their own way, but rejected Christ.

'My people suffer for a lack of knowledge'. There is only one way to God and that is through Christ. Rejecting Christ is rejecting God. So I see what you mean, ironic indeed.
1,727 posted on 12/13/2009 5:10:04 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: ansel12; Jim Robinson
GolfingRam has been banned

Is this what has become of this site?

Cheering, and keeping score of who gets banned? For what?

Their opinion is not agreeable?

.Is that the epitome of your winning argument, to ban them for theirs?

What a wonderful way to win hearts, minds and votes, ....zot the competition.

Cool.Carry on, as my husband would say, airborne, all the way.

.See ya.

1,728 posted on 12/13/2009 5:11:56 PM PST by toros
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To: hocndoc
The way I think about the fossil records and the geological record is this: I think the fossils are evidence of age and time passing with the rise and extinction of animals.

As I understand it, that was the position of Rabbi Kaplan, though I am no expert.

Adam and Eve may or may not have been created with navels, but I bet they weren’t created with scars from old wounds.

The navel is the remnant of the umbilical cord. Not only would Adam and Eve not have needed one, but neither would there first five children who were conceived and then born in a matter of minutes on the Sixth Day of Creation. The nine month gestation period which calls for the umbilical cord was a punishment for Eve's sin.

However, the important point is that we believe in the Creator.

I can't agree if you're trying to siphon all factual/historical accuracy out of Genesis and turn it into a purely "religious" work as so many do.

1,729 posted on 12/13/2009 5:13:30 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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To: toros

You did not explain why that is why I assumed and said it seemed like mocking. I am not offended either way. I just couldnt see another explaination but the two I offered.

It really isn’t a unique view and maybe that is why I couldn’t see the other expaination. If this is your first time encountering it I can see why you might be shocked by it and find it intriguing. You obviously haven’t been to any of the creation/evolution debate threads. :)

Maybe I should have been more thorough in my last response to you because upon rereading it, it sounds defensive. It wasn’t meant that way. I am just in several different conversations on this thread and trying to keep up with reading it.


1,730 posted on 12/13/2009 5:13:55 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: metmom
>>>> HOWEVER, if you can provide evidence that other churches besides Catholics pray to Mary, by all means do so. <<<

The Roman Catholic Church, Byzantine Catholic Church, Syro-Malabar Church, Greek Orthodox Church, Russian Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Chuch, Coptic Orthodox Chuch, high church Anglican, etc. are all examples of seperate church bodies that use prayers and devotions to the Virgin Mary, as well as refer to her as “Mother of God”, and “God Bearer”, etc. Feel free to ask of them and they'll confirm that for you.

Not that it proves their right, but I'm pretty sure the raw numbers would show that means a clear majority of Christians worldwide believe in virgin mary prayers, and it's not “just” a “Roman Catholic” thing. Indeed, this is another doctrine that was proclaimed for ALL of Christomdom, and not just the “Roman” branch, centuries ago, and was accepted by all the various types of Christian factions at the time.

Most of the early protestant reformers like Martin Luther also had devotions to Mary, though their modern day successors choose to ignore this. In fact, it wasn't until a few centuries ago that most protestants decided this was improper for Christians to do this.

Praying to the Virgin Mary is another element of Christianity that dates back to the early days of Christianity. Here's an example of a Virgin Mary prayer that originated around 250 A.D., before it even had become “official” Christian doctrine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_tuum_praesidium

Under thy protection
our refuge, our refuge,
Holy Mother of God
Holy Mother of God;
despise not our petitions
in our need,
but from all dangers
deliver us always,
Virgin Glorious and Blessed
under your protection
our refuge, our refuge
Holy Mother of God
Holy Mother of God

And here is an modern Orthodox Church website with marian prayers:

http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/prayers/panagia.html

>> I wouldn’t be surprised to find that there were Catholics who never cracked a Bible. It certainly wasn’t opened in our home even though we went to church weekly and for the holy days. <<

I'm sure there are a few. And I'm equally certainly there are some protestants out there who have never cracked open a bible. Some of those “mainline” protestant churches are so liberal they're not even sure if the holy spirit exists.

1,731 posted on 12/13/2009 5:14:56 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: gettinolder

Well said!


1,732 posted on 12/13/2009 5:15:39 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: RaceBannon
It was a "rememberance" of his blood, for your edification and gratification!!!
1,733 posted on 12/13/2009 5:16:30 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: toros

‘Airborne’ back to you, actually your husband.

I pointed out that in mid conversation that one of the four engaged in conversation had just been banned, that is a problem to you? Is that the first retread troll that you have ever seen banned?


1,734 posted on 12/13/2009 5:16:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Because they see themselves, ie , man, as the supreme being


1,735 posted on 12/13/2009 5:16:51 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Well, the Lord bless you.


1,736 posted on 12/13/2009 5:17:18 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: NicknamedBob
And yet, an oddity such as a steering oar could be a useful contraption for a minuscule fluid-dwelling organism.

Maybe; if it knew where it was steering to!

Or..

...to where it was steering. (Fer the spelin' poltice.)

1,737 posted on 12/13/2009 5:18:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wagglebee; Jim Robinson
Moot.

I haven't seen so many "banned or suspended's" as can be found on this thread. I am so glad Jim Thompson had the stones to post it! Nobody said everybody had to agree.

Thanks, Jim! I am grateful to FreeRepublic for having a Christian base as a foundation for conservative patriots to have a place to gather. We are indeed a diverse group, on lots of street corners. It is a place where brethren feel free to ask for prayer for a personal need, or join in an argument about whether beer "tastes great" or is "less filling". We can gripe about a Nascar finish, or find the latest recipe for deer jerky. We find the latest trash and learn about the worst situations befalling mankind. Through them, we form a common bond of FRiendship (even though we may want to slit each others throats in another time and place).

Prayers up for Jim, John, and all the FreeRepublic staff (yeah, even the mods that chastise!). May it's impact grow ever stronger among the right side of the aisle and attract many to cross over. May God bless our effort to redeem our nation... Pray for America.

1,738 posted on 12/13/2009 5:18:51 PM PST by WVKayaker (www.wherezobama.org / Obama's Excellent Adventure ...)
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To: Natural Law
To link the truly evil events of the 20th century to an observed natural phenomenon is specious at best.

The Ft. Hood guy was NOT a terrorist!

1,739 posted on 12/13/2009 5:19:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: toros

A whole lot of DC trolls just aren’t getting the message. FR is not a liberal debating society. Nor is it in “competition” with trolls. Trolls be damned!


1,740 posted on 12/13/2009 5:19:57 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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