Obama’s Birth Announcement in 1961 confirmed

The Post and Email ^ | Dec. 11, 2009 | John Charlton

[Electric Graffiti]

STAR BULLETIN EDITION OF AUG. 14TH, ON FILE AT BERKLEY IDENTICAL TO PUBLISHED IMAGES by John Charlton

The Post & Email has just received PDF files from a highly credible source, establishing that the birth annoucement in the Star Bulletin Edition of Aug. 14, 1961, for Barack Hussein Obama, is authentic.

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[little jeremiah]

The trolls really are on this thread like flies on dung.

One of their arguments is that “birthers” who focus on the eligiblity issue make themselves into fringe kooks which helps 0bama. This is such a lame after the fact invention - so transparent too.

It’s a vain attempt to shut people up, that’s all.

[little jeremiah]

tired old conservative is tired and old, that’s it.

[MilspecRob]

My wife belongs to a fashion forum and some of the worst trolls are some of the oldest members

Trolls on a "fashion form"???

[tired_old_conservative]

“What do you need to demonstrate Obama is a fraud?”

I need evidence, not disjointed emotional ranting.

You know, that whole rule of law thing Western civilization prides itself on? Do you understand that no one, however much you dislike them, is required to prove they didn't commit a crime? You are required to prove they did, meeting minimum evidentiary standards along the way.

You seem to assume your sense of outrage constitutes evidence. I must regretfully inform that it does not.

[tired_old_conservative]

Wow. Did you come up with that on your own, or do you have someone write your material?

[jamese777]

In your opinion. Courts are on record disagreeing.
Nope. The courts have avoided the issue.

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Not the Indiana Court of Appeals in the case of Ankeny v The Governor of Indiana. That court decided that both John McCain and Barack Obama meet the constitutional definition of natural born citizens.
Time will tell whether the Indiana Appeals Court’s decision will be appealed and upheld or reversed at a higher judicial level.
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/ankeny-v-gov-of-indiana-natural-born-defined-born-on-us-soil-regardless-of-citizenship-parents/#more-7312

[An American In Dairyland]

Your “father Unknown” theory sounds plausible to me.

Dunham was probably porking several black guys and BHO Sr. was the only one dumb enough to believe he was the only one, and therefore the father, allowing Dunham to use his name ex post facto of the actual birth.

"Father Unknown" on the BC is plausible but suppose instead that there is some other man's name entered as the father on the BC? That would shoot to hell all of Zero's talk about his "daddy" not to mention the book.

[Brytani]

Though your post was not address to me, I’m going to answer your question.

The birth certificate is, for the most part, simply a start. It is a way to get the public’s attention and to have them wonder why the President of the US would go into court and fight showing his birth certificate; a document we’ve all had to show numerous times for various governmental and non-governmental matters. I will say this, there is no way possible for the COLB released by factcheck.org to be genuine, absolutely no way and I’m still waiting for a so called “anti-birther” to explain to me how it could be given that facts we know.

I also do not believe he is ineligible to be president and it has nothing to do with what is on his Hawaiian birth certificate.

Forget his birth for a second.

At age 6 (from what we have been told) Obama was adopted by an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Seotoro. At that point his name was legally changed to Barry Seotoro and he moved to Indonesia becoming an Indonesian Citizen. We know he was listed as an citizen of Indonesia from his school records.

John Jay in his letter to Washington of July 1785 made the suggestion that no person should be allowed to become President of the US who has allegiance to any other country. Jay’s suggestion was taken seriously by Washington as well as the founders and without descent the condition of being a Natural Born Citizen was inserted into the Constitution only for the office of President.

Obama becoming a citizen of Indonesia, added to his admitted dual British citizenship at birth puts him directly against what Jay intended and our founders accepted, allegiance to three different countries (US, Britain and Indonesia). Simply put, Obama does not qualify by any means as to the original intent of the founders. Yes, we need a court ruling to this effect, that I fully admit but Obama has more problems then eligibility.

Obama was legally adopted yet we are missing some important documents that prove he is even legally a citizen of this country.

Where and when did he legally change his name to Barack H. Obama? Where is the court paperwork?

How did he change his birth certificate from a legal adoption by Lolo Seotoro; back to BHO Sr?

I have a similar situation as Obama. While I know who my biological father is, I too was adopted by my “step-father” at age 6. For reasons that I will not go into here, I do not consider him my “father” and in fact have a relationship now with his family, not him. However, he is still legally my Father. His name appears on my birth certificate and there is nothing I can do to change that. A legal adoption does not allow for me to go back and say “I don’t want him as my Father anymore, take his name off my birth certificate”. Obama’s adoption would have done the same.

Combine Obama’s Indonesian problem with his Kenyan problem and I can not see how anyone who takes a look at his background can not question it.

Obama’s birth certificate SHOULD show he was born in Hawaii, his father listed as Lolo Seotoro. His B/C could NOT say his father is Barack H. Obama Sr. not unless he and his family has lied about Lolo Seotoro. What Obama is said to have released shows BHO Sr. as father. This is a legal impossibility and only one reason why he should allow Hawaii to release his full record.

Aside from his b/c problems there are questions that need to be answered about his citizenship. When did he retake his American citizenship? Is he even an American citizen?

While in many ways the B/C is to get the attention of the American public, it is the first of many documents that need to be released. Do we not have a right to know who is sitting in the most powerful office in the world?

For those who believe there are no questions, PLEASE explain to me how he could have been adopted by Lolo Seotoro but is now Barack H. Obama. Hmmmmmm?

[thecraw]

LOL! No /sarc tag necessary.

Hey now that I think of it that *lovely* (/sarc) plate would make a nice Christmas gift for an Obot I know. She would cherish it forever (barf again!)

[Vendome]

Man, you are all over NS today. LOL

[thecraw]

WOWZA! Look at these *COOL* wall decorations I found!!

Standard "crotch salute" photo (I suppose the National Anthem must have been playing.)

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Did I mention.... /sarc (LOL)!

[Red Steel]

According to that Demo appointed judge, anchor babies are natural born citizens.

From your link:

[14] We note the fact that the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a “natural born Citizen” using the Constitution‟s Article II language is immaterial.

The judge gets it right in this aspect that Ark was not a natural born citizen but draws the incorrect conclusion. Every case from about 1850 to 1952 which had mentioned case subjects with foreign parent(s) and were born in the United States, were called 'native born' and none were called natural born citizens. Except, in the case of 1939, Perkins v. Elg, were Miss Elg was correctly called a Natural Born Citizen. The US Supreme Court have consistently differentiated 'native born' versus 'natural born' were this judge Dreyer has conflated them to be the same.

For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the trial court‟s grant of the Governor‟s motion to dismiss. Affirmed.

The case never made it to trail thus avoiding uncertainty in the issue where the judge would have less control.

[Red Steel]

trail = trial

[danamco]

Unlike Obama, BOTH of his parents were non-citizens at the time of his birth.

Can you provide a source that they were NOT naturalized???

[jamese777]

The two other Indiana Appeals Court justices who heard the Ankeny case on appeal concurred with the judge who wrote the opinion.
Thus far plaintiffs have won no judgements challenging Obama’s eligibility at the state, state appeals, state Supreme Courts, federal, federal appeals or US Supreme Court. Judgements have gone in Obama’s favor in 66 lawsuits.
The way to resolve this issue is to get the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark Bennett to subpoena Obama’s vault copy, long form birth certificate and convene a Grand Jury with expert testimony to see if the original document and the short form COLB that Obama posted on the internet are identical and valid.

[jamese777]

The case never made it to trail thus avoiding uncertainty in the issue where the judge would have less control.

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Appeals courts don’t conduct trials, they hear appeals of lower court decisions. This was a three judge panel hearing the appeal of a lower court decision which decided that Mitch Daniels, the Republican Governor of Indiana DID properly verify the credentials of the candidates and that their electors were valid.
The plaintiffs in this case can appeal this decision to the Indiana Supreme Court and then on to the US Supreme Court but thus far, the US Supreme Court has refused to hear any of 7 cases challenging Obama’s eligibility.

[Red Steel]

IMO, judges have no backbone on this issue and are punting and making tenuous excuses at every turn. It's tooooo much of a hot political football for them.

Thus far plaintiffs have won no judgements challenging Obama’s eligibility at the state, state appeals, state Supreme Courts, federal, federal appeals or US Supreme Court. Judgements have gone in Obama’s favor in 66 lawsuits.

And as I said before, none of them have let this go to trial. The uncertainty factor is too much for them to do that which they believe the fallout or pressure of a trial may shatter their little balls...if they had any.

[Red Steel]

Appeals courts don’t conduct trials, they hear appeals of lower court decisions.

Well of course.

the US Supreme Court has refused to hear any of 7 cases challenging Obama’s eligibility

They refuse to hear most cases sent to them; doesn't mean they won't hear an eligibility case in the future.

[Electric Graffiti]

Hawaii has a Republican Governor, Lt Governor and Attorney General.

Think they’re in on it?

Apparently the Attorney General worked with Fukino to draft that incredible proclamtion that Barry was a 'natural-born American citizen' and 'born in Hawaii'.

People have submitted UIPA(Uniform Information Practices Act) requests to reveal the documents they used to arrive at this public announcement. Hopefully, we'll see how deep this rabbit hole goes. We know what's wafting out of that hole and it stinks as bad as the Obama rumpswabs on this thread. ;)