Obama’s Birth Announcement in 1961 confirmed

The Post and Email ^ | Dec. 11, 2009 | John Charlton

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STAR BULLETIN EDITION OF AUG. 14TH, ON FILE AT BERKLEY IDENTICAL TO PUBLISHED IMAGES by John Charlton

The Post & Email has just received PDF files from a highly credible source, establishing that the birth annoucement in the Star Bulletin Edition of Aug. 14, 1961, for Barack Hussein Obama, is authentic.

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Ping

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

I say let’s have a BIRTHDAY PARTY /sarc

[trumandogz]

the Hawaii statutes that existed at the time, from my understanding, required the mother to have been a full time resident of the US for at least five years prior to the birth...

Could you please point me to the place in the Constitution that states that Hawaii Law determines who and who is not a US citizen?

The Framers must have had some great foresight and trust. Foresight to know that Hawaii would one day be a state and trust in the Hawaii State Legislature to define U.S. citizenship.

[gov_bean_ counter]

I’ll bet we can come with a list of really cool gifts... :)

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

so...if you were going to the ‘bamsters birthday party what would you bring?

[gov_bean_ counter]

A tape of ME!!!!

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

why would you bring a tape of you? just asking...........

[Cheburashka]

Why must he hide his Long Form Birth Certificate using lawyers?

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My pet theory is that on the Long Form where it asks for the name of the father it says “unknown”.

Dunham was raped by person or persons unknown, after his birth when they saw the probable race of the father her parents bribed a Kenyan classmate of their daughter to enter into a sham marriage. After a decent interval the sham marriage was ended by divorce. No child support or anything, that wasn't part of the deal, just give the kid a name.

Kind of tough to portray yourself as Barack Obama Jr. if you have no real family relationship to Barack Obama Sr. And impossible if the name doesn't appear on the original birth certificate.

As I said, just my pet theory.

[gov_bean_ counter]

Because I don't have tape of the Queen of England...

Or I could download my favorite "Mommas and the Poppas" from my very own IPOD and give him a mini-IPOD.

[Smokeyblue]

From the article:

“I wanted to test the veracity of the Advertiser and Star Bulletin birth annoucements so I went on my own quest for the microfiche that might be located outside of HI. I located the microfiche at UC Berkeley (I know, the most liberal bastion in the world) for the Star Bulletin. The CA State Library has the Advertiser microfiche for August 1961 which I am still working on obtaining images from.”

Are the Star Bulletin and the Advertiser the same publication? Is he just saying that microfiche for the Hawaiian Advertiser found at Berkeley matches the existing announcement? What is the Star Bulletin?

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

the poor ole’Queen Mum-lover of champagne at brekkie and G&T’s for lunch then on to martinis @4pm & sherry & port in the evening PLUS all the ponies she played! Lilibet had to pay a tidy sum to cover the 7mil english pound frikkin’ overdraft upon Mumsie’s death..now where we ? oh, yes,
Lilibet- you can find her on YouTube, quite a monarch i hear....

[1951Boomer]

Yeah, and I’m the tooth fairy. Why? Because a highly credible source says so.

[autumnraine]

No, they are two seperate papers. He is saying that at Berkely he found the advertisement in the Star Bulletin and is going to check out the CA State Library for the announcement in the “Advertiser”.

[Ezekiel]

The usurper has Jesus beat, as far as discussion over the circumstances surrounding his birth. Now we know why baby Jesus goes missing out of so many nativity scenes each year. Watch out for the replacements - they'll have a darker skin tone.

Now the birth of Barack was on this wise: When as his mother Stanley was espoused to Obama Sr., before they came together, she was found with child of Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X.

[fr_freak]

Could you please point me to the place in the Constitution that states that Hawaii Law determines who and who is not a US citizen?

The Framers must have had some great foresight and trust. Foresight to know that Hawaii would one day be a state and trust in the Hawaii State Legislature to define U.S. citizenship.

My mistake. The statute was federal, not Hawaii. See below, especially the part in bold, which would apply to Obama's mother (and Obama, himself) if he were not born in the US.

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1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act).

"Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

"(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

"(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

(b) Any person who is a national and citizen of the United States at birth under paragraph (7) of subsection (a), shall lose his nationality and citizenship unless he shall come to the United States prior to attaining the age of twenty-three years and shall immediately following any such coming be continuously physically present in the United State(s) for at least five years: Provided, That such physical presence follows the attainment of the age of fourteen years and precedes the age of twenty-eight years.

(c) Subsection (b) shall apply to a person born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934: Provided, however, That nothing contained in this subsection shall be construed to alter or affect the citizenship of any person born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934, who, prior to the effective date of this Act, has taken up a residence in the United States before attaining the age of sixteen years, and thereafter, whether before or after the effective date of this Act, complies or shall comply with the residence requirements for retention of citizenship specified in subsections (g) and (h) of section 201 of the Nationality Act of 1940, as amended."

[TalBlack]

“Did I hear that McCain had to be officially vetted by Congress..”

Yup. And the cherry on that particular parfait is that Obozo himself was one of the people on the panel that approved McCains status.

[Man50D]

Why would any sane person spend over a million dollars to hide something they knew would not harm them?

It's now up to two million.

[RegulatorCountry]

State law actually did determine who was, or was not a citizen, naturalized or by birth, at the time the Constitution was ratified, and so State law comes into play, as far as any understanding of the term natural born citizen. In a Constitutional Republic, various States enter into a Confederation, and laws betweem them vary. Attempts to standardize or "federalize" citizenship law did not occur until after the Civil War.

The overarching Constitution between the Several States composing the Republic must accomodate all the Several States, as far as Federal elections, and so eligibility requirements would have to accomodate the various means of determining natural born citizenship. Some states granted this to those born within their geographic boundaries alone. Others required citizen parents. So, both for a President, in order to conform to the laws of all. Vattel covers this.

This is the reason that no law exists outside the Constitution itself, defining the term, because the definition of the term varied between the Several States, and the Several States made this determination themselves. Agreement between them as to the eligibility of a President required birth under both jus sanguinis and jus soli, citizen parents and born of the soil, in order to satisfy them all.

[Man50D]

(the Hawaii statutes that existed at the time, from my understanding, required the mother to have been a full time resident of the US for at least five years prior to the birth)

That was a federal law. The law stated the following:

For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child).