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To: wardaddy
I love black thugs who hate me for being white and having a southern accent and want to drag me from my car and bash my head with bricks and rape my wife.

I know we owe them since our ancestors owned theirs once....fair’s fair.

Where do I sign up to be slaughtered as recompense?

You want me to leave, wardaddy? I mean, what am I to make of a response like that, after I've expended so much effort to rationally break down this issue?

You're responding to a post in which I fully acknowledged the dysfunctional condition of the black community, and elaborated on my own theory as to what the genesis of that debased condition is.

I fully agreed with the previous poster that blacks need to wake up and move into the mainstream of American culture, for their own future survival.

Just what do you want from me?

361 posted on 12/09/2009 11:40:40 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I mean, what am I to make of a response like that, after I've expended so much effort to rationally break down this issue?

Here's what you make of it; you recognize that there are those who are heavily invested in reinforcing and justifying their resentment and truly believe that blacks are genetically predisposed to violence. They will continue to ignore any cogent analysis of the problem, because to them it's a moot point - you're all a bunch of hopeless, backwards thugs in the end and there's no sense in even wasting any resources trying to train you. That's the conclusion they're aiming for, and the solution is, at the least, to go back to the days of forced segregation.

375 posted on 12/10/2009 7:59:39 AM PST by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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To: Windflier

You really do get it - I’m encouraged.

Of course it’s not the color of the skin or the genetics.

It’s the culture. And if that culture doesn’t move into the mainstream, there will be more and more deadly clashes.

I can only imagine the grief that “mainstreamed” blacks take from those who refuse to integrate into American society. I just hope they have the patience and courage necessary to get their point across.


376 posted on 12/10/2009 8:04:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Windflier
I was being facetious and had not read all your posts here most of which are indeed very well said and sincere and I do realize it's easy for me as a white southerner to be conservative but not so for you...I really do get that and it's not fair. I hate that.

I am more than willing to discuss anything you'd like about the black community (or the white treatment of)very candidly because unlike most white folks here I have been either immersed in it or lived in close proximity to it for half a century.

And I have seen it collapse basically and take/accompany lower income white and latino urban culture down with it to the point where they are now almost indistinguishable except by skin color and they are working on that too.

This is not just an American issue but a worldwide issue for black culture baring one or two small exceptions and the roots go back far beyond what most folks are comfortable discussing today. Some cultures advance and some lag and some are in between and there are variances to that mean within each but the mean still is what it is and it's unreasonable to expect everyone to be the same culturally in short order when these differences based on so much environmental differences for tens of thousands of years have taken place. You can make this observation about any race or ethnic group and even to some degree religious affiliations and whatnot. Geographic isolation as one had in sub Saharan Africa and in the Americas has created for both of the indigenous groups there growing pains and this is an outgrowth of that which we all have to deal with but this new touchy feely make excuses and enabling failure progressivism is only retarding cultural acclimation in the modern world. Blacks for example were in better shape culturally in the now scorned years from 1866-1964 than they are now with all this excuse making and being treated like underprivileged pets by guilty whites.

And progressive politics and the deconstruction of the what we used to call western civilization the past 40 years has enabled it.

But I am not one of these white folks who thinks all that has happened negative in the black community is the fault of external forces. Blacks have free will same as anyone else and when I grew up most exercised it well and our cities were safe and so on...at least in the south.

379 posted on 12/10/2009 10:07:43 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: Windflier

You have risen above the dysfunctional sub-culture because, according to your home page, you “believe strongly in the doctrine of “American Exceptionalism”.”

You know that there is a wide disparity between the belief systems of those who love this country, and those who disrespect it.

I am not very optimistic for the next generation. The parents of many current gang members are themselves gang members, and I suspect that many children of today’s gang members will also be gang, as we head into the third (or fourth) generation of that culture.

It will be difficult to change the belief systems of an entire generation as long as leftists are able to indoctrinate them via the public school system, and peer pressure makes it that much harder to go against the grain.

Media that glorify that lifestyle isn’t helping either, nor is a potus who is a role model for many who continuously badmouths this society and country.


380 posted on 12/10/2009 10:10:29 AM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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