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Bob J Poll - The FR/Conservative Litmus Test
12-8-09 | Bob J

Posted on 12/08/2009 1:32:01 PM PST by Bob J

We've all heard of the "litmus" tests people have put forth to gauge someones applicability to being a conservative. The problem is there are just too many options! The recent 10 point test is just too extensive, in fact I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who agrees with me on all my own my top ten conservative talking points.

So let's focus it a bit. If there were 3 issues that we all could agree on as being essentially conservative, what would those be for you? It could include right to life, small government, low taxes, strong military, 2nd amendment, belief in God, law and order, protection of Marriage, etc.

Be honest. Which three issues define not only you, but anyone you would accept as being truly "conservative" and maybe even someone who would get your vote?


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1 posted on 12/08/2009 1:32:05 PM PST by Bob J
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Ideally, I'd get all of these traits but I may have to settle for what I can get.

Unfortunately, a Democrat who have none of these traits.

2 posted on 12/08/2009 1:36:09 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: Bob J

Start with NO Advocacy of a Direct Democracy, it displays no understanding of why our country was designed as it was Governmentally.

But then on to the question. Really? Just 3? Nope. ALL are important.

But perhaps they can be lumped together - Govern within the bounds of the Constitution AS WRITTEN. Everything else falls into place then. No ‘penumbras’, living document BS.


3 posted on 12/08/2009 1:37:55 PM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Oops, sorry I meant a Democrat would have none of these traits.


4 posted on 12/08/2009 1:38:26 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: Bob J

1. Small government

2. Balanced budget

3. Low taxes


5 posted on 12/08/2009 1:38:45 PM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Bob J
I'm just waiting to see how you turn this into an anti Sarah Palin spiel.
6 posted on 12/08/2009 1:44:35 PM PST by RJL
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To: Bob J
1.) Pro-life.

2.) Low tax / small government.

3.) Traditional values (two parent family--man, wife, children).
7 posted on 12/08/2009 1:47:11 PM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: RJL

“I’m just waiting to see how you turn this into an anti Sarah Palin spiel.”

6 posts to the first effort to turn this into a Palin thread!

Congrats, you get a cookie!


8 posted on 12/08/2009 1:47:18 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Philo1962

Thanks!


9 posted on 12/08/2009 1:48:01 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Antoninus

Thanks!


10 posted on 12/08/2009 1:48:17 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Philo1962

life, liberty and property


11 posted on 12/08/2009 1:49:07 PM PST by hawgwalker
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To: hawgwalker

I get 1 and 3, right to life and property rights, but could you be more specific on 2?


12 posted on 12/08/2009 1:50:12 PM PST by Bob J
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>>>It could include right to life, small government, low taxes, strong military, 2nd amendment, belief in God, law and order, protection of Marriage, etc. <<<

All the issues you listed can be combined into 3 core values:

1) Belief in God includes right to life and protection of marriage. (That said, I’d accept a conservative who wasn’t particularly religious, but consistently demonstrated that he/she was pro-life and opposed the agenda of the homosexualists.)

2) Small government - Low taxes will follow.

3) Security - includes a strong military, protection of 2nd Amendment rights, and law and order.

All of these things are non-negotiable, in my book. If I had to prioritize right to life would come first, then secuirty then small government.


13 posted on 12/08/2009 1:50:58 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade ("I don't have a whole lot of mercy for the bad guys, I'm on the good guys' side." -Sarah Palin)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Thanks for being honest and fair!


14 posted on 12/08/2009 1:51:57 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Above My Pay Grade

But someone could be pro life stricly on constitutional grounds. If they were this way but say a Jew who didn’t believe in Jesus, would they still be a conservative in your book?


15 posted on 12/08/2009 1:54:39 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J

What does this have to do with Tiger Woods?


16 posted on 12/08/2009 1:59:14 PM PST by Rebelbase (Green bean casserole is a culinary curse upon mankind)
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To: Bob J

1. Individual rights, including rights to Life, Liberty, property, self-defense and all other unalienable rights.

2. Small constitutional government, including strictly limited enumerated powers, separation of powers, state sovereignty, self-government, etc, as intended and ratified.

3. Strong national security, national defense.

Will settle for nothing less.

Usurpers be damned!


17 posted on 12/08/2009 2:00:20 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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To: Rebelbase

Good one...heheh.

But one poster did try to make this about Sarah? Doesn’t that count?


18 posted on 12/08/2009 2:00:33 PM PST by Bob J
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Yes, as long as they consistently upheld Christian values, such of right to life, and traditional marriage, I would consider them social conservatives, whether or not they are Christians.

Of course, to be true conservatives they would also need to be for small government and strong on security including strong military, pro-2nd amendement and pro law and order.


19 posted on 12/08/2009 2:02:57 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade ("I don't have a whole lot of mercy for the bad guys, I'm on the good guys' side." -Sarah Palin)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, if we could convey THAT simple message across the country, without all the ideological bric-a-brack, we’d win 4 tims out of five if not more.

I would make one edit, change #3 to simply SECURITY...as an individual and as a nation.

KISS


20 posted on 12/08/2009 2:08:27 PM PST by Bob J
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