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Boise State, TCU Deserve Better
SI.com ^ | 7 Dec 2009 | Cory McCartney

Posted on 12/07/2009 9:10:25 AM PST by The Pack Knight

This should feel like a just reward for an offseason where the non-automatic qualifiers extolled their virtues in front of Congress, then reached unprecedented heights in the BCS era on the field.

It can't be understated that for the first time, two teams from outside of the major conferences have been granted access behind the BCS' velvet rope as No. 3 TCU and No. 6 Boise State will meet in the Fiesta Bowl. "I think the Fiesta Bowl, to their credit, is putting two very, very deserving teams on the field against each other," WAC commissioner Karl Benson said.

It's a statement, no doubt, but maybe not the one that this landmark moment should deliver, because the Broncos and Horned Frogs are having to play each other.

The Fiesta Bowl has created a matchup that seems more like a cop-out than an achievement; denying the two unbeatens a chance to validate their seasons against the big boys on the sports' biggest stage and opening up an entirely new chapter of BCS bashing/collusion allegations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bcs; chat; collegefootball; fiestabowl; sports
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Once again, the BCS has proven that the "Football Bowl Subdivision"/"Football Championship Subdivision" terminology is at least accurate in one way. There isn't a real champion in the FBS.

On the other hand, they've also proven that there aren't two Division 1 subdivisions, but three. If anyone had any illusions that the mid-majors were in any way treated as being part of the same league as the power conference, I think this Fiesta Bowl farce just disabused them.

1 posted on 12/07/2009 9:10:25 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight

Agree 100%. This game is a horrible slap in the face to both programs.


2 posted on 12/07/2009 9:12:43 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: The Pack Knight

All the more reason to scrap the BS and replace it with a playoff system as they have in the FCS.


3 posted on 12/07/2009 9:13:28 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: The Pack Knight

Sherman Anti-Trust anyone?


4 posted on 12/07/2009 9:15:00 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: The Pack Knight
I understand the sentiment here involving these "outsiders" in NCAA football, but here's a dumb question: Why don't teams like Boise State and TCU join major conferences, if they are serious about a long-term commitment to building and maintaining strong football teams?

Every year we hear the same complaints about the BCS system and calls for a Division I playoff, but I think you are always going to have this sort of controversy no matter how a playoff system is organized. It's a natural consequence of having a sport where it's impossible to have every team play each other during the regular season, and where individual schedules will always promote subjective assessments of the teams when it comes to selecting post-season participants.

5 posted on 12/07/2009 9:21:37 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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Why don't teams like Boise State and TCU join major conferences,

TCU was a member of the Southwest Conference up until 1996 when that conference was cannibalized.

6 posted on 12/07/2009 9:23:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: WKUHilltopper

More government regulation of a critical industry?

Neiter TCU nor BSU have a right to the national championship game.

Each of the respective conferences gets more cash than ever before.

This is not the No Fun League.

Screw a playoff system.

Collegiate football has the bowl system.

Yesterday,today,and forever.

If you want to see a playoff tournement tune into ABC,NBC,CBS or ESPN for the No Fun League.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 9:25:09 AM PST by Reaganez
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To: The Pack Knight

I was hoping Texas would loose.

TCU could beat Alabama, esp if Alabama plays like they played against Auburn.

Alabama got lucky, they caught Florida on an off night.
I thought the refs gave Alabama all the calls in the first quarter....near the beginning of the game, the Alabama defensive end grabbing Florida’s tight end jersy before he aught ball...no call...


8 posted on 12/07/2009 9:25:27 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Teacher317

If these second rate conference teams are so good, then why aren’t they happy playing each other? After all they’re both undefeated, so if they are both as good as the big boys then they should be happy to be playing the other undefeated team. I’m tired of all the whining from these other conferences, they are like political third parties. GO LONGHORNS!


9 posted on 12/07/2009 9:25:59 AM PST by AUH2O Repub ( SPalin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Alberta's Child

TCU WAS in a major conference before Texas et al. broke up the Southwest Conference.


10 posted on 12/07/2009 9:26:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: WKUHilltopper
First, I don't think this is a trust that needs to be busted. IIRC, the NCAA, the leagues, and the bowl games entered into the BcS agreement. While I don't agree with it, it is a legitimate business agreement.

Second, the last thing we need is government intervention. They would screw it up, and the debate will distract the masses while all sorts of evil would be done in secret.

However, this event shows the farce the BcS is. The BcS committee is blatantly thumbing their noses at the mid-majors because they can.

11 posted on 12/07/2009 9:27:06 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Reaganez

What was TCU and Boise’s schedule like this year?


12 posted on 12/07/2009 9:27:50 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
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To: FreedomProtector
I thought the refs gave Alabama all the calls in the first quarter....near the beginning of the game, the Alabama defensive end grabbing Florida’s tight end jersy before he aught ball...no call...

Believe me, nothing was going to make any difference, even if Dunlap had played. They just flat out wanted it more.

13 posted on 12/07/2009 9:27:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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TCU should have chance to play for #1.

They are worthy contenders this year

14 posted on 12/07/2009 9:28:42 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: The Pack Knight

The BCS exists for the glorification of the 6 major conferences. Period.

People who believe otherwise are fooling themselves.

The “BCS formula” is designed to minimize the chance of an “outsider” making the championship game, and it makes perfect sense to me that when basically forced to take two “outsider” teams into the system, that they’d pit them against each other rather than against teams from the “big 6”.

A 12-team playoff, seeded by final BCS standings and no more than 2 teams per conference, would yield brackets of:

(1) Alabama - bye
(8) Ohio State vs (9) Georgia Tech


(4) TCU - bye
(5) Florida vs (14) Brigham Young (#12 LSU and #13 Penn St excluded)


(3) Cincinnati - bye
(6) Boise State vs. (11) Virginia Tech


(2) Texas - bye
(7) Oregon vs (10) Iowa


15 posted on 12/07/2009 9:29:34 AM PST by kevkrom (Obama's Waterloo: a "hockey mom" with a laptop and a Facebook account)
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To: The Pack Knight

The BCS is run by P*SSIES! They put these teams together because they knew they would both wipe the floor with whatever big conference school they were matched up against. I hope from now on when one of these schools or one like them play a big school they beat them 49-0 and the game ends with the small school going for two. This system is trash and needs to go. I don’t even have any interest in bowl games anymore.


16 posted on 12/07/2009 9:30:06 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Oh, OK -- now I remember that. They were perennial doormats back then, right?

I remember the days when Texas and SMU were the big names in that conference, and most other schools were also-rans.

17 posted on 12/07/2009 9:30:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Alberta's Child

More like Texas and Arkansas. SMU was pretty much in the same league as TCU. And for the record, it was Arkansas first bolting the SWC for the SEC that broke up the SWC.


18 posted on 12/07/2009 9:32:38 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
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To: AUH2O Repub

I am a Longhorn fan as well, but on a neutral field TCU would be favored over Texas and probably whip them into next week. Their defense is as good or better than Nebraska and their offense is light years better. I want the Horns to beat ‘Bama, but you should thank God they aren’t playing TCU.


19 posted on 12/07/2009 9:33:02 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Alberta's Child
I remember the days when Texas and SMU were the big names in that conference, and most other schools were also-rans.

Arkansas and A&M were not "also-rans."

20 posted on 12/07/2009 9:33:12 AM PST by dfwgator
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