[manc]

American media /AP where are youuuuuuuuuuuu?????????????????????

[Travis McGee]

“Don’t worry, you can TRUST us!”

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.

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[Marak]

Someone sounds like they actually believe that CRU had real data to begin with.

[Diogenesis]

Utterly incredible.

NOT A WORD IN THE MEDIA on this scandal.

[libertarian27]

The revised figures were kept, but the originals —snip — were dumped to save space ......

Double-Date = Double-Books

So we all can just show our revised figures? IRS, here I come.../s

[BunnySlippers]

NUMP

[Billg64]

bump

[GonzoGOP]

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.

This could have been put on a flash drive, if space was actually a concern. Or sent of to a U-Store facility. If the data was destroyed, it was done to hide their cheating. We can't let the left get away with spin on this one.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Most of the American media has deliberately and consciously chosen to hide the truth, but there are at least two newspapers that tell the truth - the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post. The WSJ can be obtained throughout the country. The best thing we can do now is subscribe to the WSJ and dump local rags.

[SueRae]

Other than Drudge, Fox, and of course, here, there is no mention of this on the alphabet soup news websites..Incredible.

If I was a Penn State Alum (and I know many), I would be hounding the phone lines...and witholding contributions until they conduct a full investigation on this matter,

[wolfcreek]

*Real* scientists don’t dump data.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Now isn't that convenient.

[freedomfiter2]

Dumping data and “scientist” are incompatible. So which is it?

[mad_as_he$$]

They need to be charged with fraud.

[mad_as_he$$]

They need to be charged with fraud.

[ThunderSleeps]

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected.

You realize that raw data collected over long periods, eg. a hundred years or so, is "adjusted" for many things: changes in measurement technology, accuracy, precision; changes in land use; changes in local population; etc.

One of the (many) knee-slappers about so-called man-caused Global Warming or Climate Change is that these "adjustments" to the data are larger than the supposed trends caused by man. Not just larger, sometimes significantly larger, even an order of magnitude larger. So by taking a different SWAG at what the values for these "adjustments" should be, you can have your data show man is causing anything you want - increasing or decreasing the rate of natural temperature change.

Without the raw data, we have no idea just what these adjustments were. Even with the adjustments, there's no guarantee they are the right values.

[ETL]

Why You Should Be Hot and Bothered About 'Climate-gate'
FoxNews.com ^ | November 24, 2009 | John Lott

Computer hackers have obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England. These e-mails, which have now been confirmed as real, involved many researchers across the globe with ideologically similar advocates around the world. They were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global warming claims. The academics here also worked closely with the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and Professor Michael Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny.

Among his e-mails, Professor Jones talks to Professor Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series...to hide the decline [in temperature]."..."

Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discusses in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that would otherwise be seen in the results. Professor Mann sent Professor Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he is sending shouldn't be shown to others because the results support critics of global warming. Time after time the discussions refer to hiding or destroying data. ..."

Lots more at link...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

[Madame Dufarge]

I seem to remember daily shrieking headlines about Enron shredding documents a few years back.

I guess this sort of thing isn't important any more.

[ETL]

Obama makes U.N. debut on global warming
September 22, 2009

From the transcript (final paragraph):

President Obama: "But the journey is long and the journey is hard. And we don't have much time left to make that journey. It's a journey that will require each of us to persevere through setbacks, and fight for every inch of progress, even when it comes in fits and starts. So let us begin. For if we are flexible and pragmatic, if we can resolve to work tirelessly in common effort, then we will achieve our common purpose: a world that is safer, cleaner, and healthier than the one we found; and a future that is worthy of our children."

Obama makes U.N. debut on global warming (text, video here):
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/obama-makes-un-debut-on-global-warming-text-video-here.html
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From GreenLeft.org

VENEZUELA: Chavez calls for global offensive for socialism
August 31, 2005

excerpts...

"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."

"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."

"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."

--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm
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Obama's "Climate Czar" is on the same page with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro...

From The Washington Times, January 12, 2009

Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution

by Stephen Dinan

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.

lots more...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
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Here's a link to an image of a Google cache of the Socialist International's webpage that originally included Obama's "Climate Czar" Carol Browner. It was found by FReeper, Publius6961:
http://24ahead.com/images/si-csws-cache-as-of-011009.jpg