Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Apparently there are still some posters on FR who are fast asleep. Wake up! Dammit! We are in the middle of a conservative rebellion! While you were sleeping we, along with millions of other freedom loving grassroots Americans have participated in hundreds of tea parties all across this great land and fully intend to keep it up until all of America is awake. We are fed up and mad as hell! We grassroots Americans are delivering a message to the ruling class: NO MORE!!
No more big government! No more high taxes! No more government bailouts! No more government takeovers! No government healthcare! No more corruption! No more global baloneyism!!
We're sick and tired of liberals and RINOs running roughshod over our God given Liberty!
We want our country back! We want our freedom back! We want it all back!!
No more socialism!!
Cut the taxes! Cut the spending! Cut the government!
Restore the constitutional limits on government! Restore our freedom!!
And not only no, but HELL NO to liberals and RINOS!!
Free Republic will not support RINOS!! Rudy McRomney, et al, can go straight to hell!!
The strategy is we win, they lose.
Any questions?
So very, very true. Some of us have grandchildren and even great-grandchildren making that *gauntlet* even larger.
I stand opposed to this. Ban me if you will.
Bad idea. Bad practice. Bad, bad, bad.
The idea should be to win over the RINOs and pull them rightward. Yelling them down and telling them to go to hell does nothing except to advance the cause of the bad guys.
This is the most important point. The Tea Party attendees are looking for something and that something turns out to be solid, true Conservatism. They don't know it by name perhaps but they know it by what true Conservatives represent, what the expect from government and how they live their own personal lives.
They learned about Conservatism from the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. That's what Conservatism is all about. Jim Robinson's declarations of what he considers to be Conservative is agreed on by the good people on Free Republic. We're not jimbots, we simply agree with his definition of Conservatism. We are fighting as FRiends and allies for a consistent, well-defined vision that we believe is shared by the majority of Americans across the country.
If we lose the Conservative message amid an incessant debate about degrees of liberalism then the people coming to this site won't find the answers that they are looking for. They *will* find those answers if they stay here and talk with truly Conservative FReepers.
If the issues we believe in are not the ones you wish to discuss then there are more appropriate sites to frequent. Your own individual liberty is preserved. We focus on Conservatism. Win-win.
Same here!
Okay you brave keyboard warriors. Take 5 minutes from your mutual admiration threads and find out if your state has open primaries. If it does write your state legislator and state senator and start working to get them closed. Then you can go back to telling each other how much you hate RINOs.
Thank-you...God bless!
Humph.
I’m only a Republican because I think elephants are cute.
Next time I suggest you use facts before you attempt to beat down anyone who might challenge Sarah Palin...
Yeah. Define "RINO". What is the litmus test?
Sell it to a green lefty to burn in their moped.
“kinda of a “poor man’s napalm”, LOL “
;-)
What?
No GAGA* Republicans?
That’ll cut the field tremendously.
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*GAGA = Go Along; Get Along
“Take a good look at the Texas hill country. Thats were we will head if it comes to that.”
Nah, it’s the swamps and bays of the southeast, General Francis Marion used these enviroments to great advantage.
Dream on. There is a huge population out there that lives in an alternate reality. Nothing good is going to happen until people on our side come up with a way to dispose of it. The key really is in this next sentence of yours:
Now that Global Warming has been exposed as a fraud, its time to Drill Baby Drill.You may think GW has been exposed as a fraud, but I've talked to quite a few people who I believe are normally on our side and they had no knowledge whatsoever about the CRU computer dump. Even when they are told, the magnitude of its meaning doesn't register. It isn't in the New York Times and Katie Couric isn't talking about it. The image of those polar bears on the iceberg remains even though there never was anything particularly unusual about polar bears on icebergs. We want it to be a battle of ideas, but this is all marketing; and we don't know how to do it.
ML/NJ
Pawlenty Is As Good As It Gets
National Review
Aug 2008
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/15/opinion/main4354062.shtml
... “Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska was my choice for most of the summer. She is conservative, tough-minded, attractive, has a great life story, including a blue-collar husband and five kids, and seems like a real can-do politician. Furthermore, putting a woman on the ticket this year is the smartest thing McCain could do. It would add missing sizzle, and would help with disgruntled, middle-aged female voters who think Hillary got shafted by a younger, less qualified candidate. Those women include both upper-middle-class professionals who identified with Hillary and working-class women who regarded her as their champion. Palin might appeal to their male, blue-collar counterparts as well.
My infatuation ended, however, when she gave recent interviews which demonstrated that she needs more time in office, and she is insufficiently sophisticated for the national stage right now. A term or more as governor and a good D.C. PR firm to work on her media skills and knowledge of national issues will help.
Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana has been discussed to death. Another year. He wisely took his name out of the running - which is yet another sign that he is politically shrewd.
This brings us to Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty. He is the last man standing; at first glance a default choice rather than a dazzling one. He is smart, which is important, and thoughtful on the issues of governing a state. He is conservative, but not easily tarred with the right wing nut brush - so he wont push away moderates. He is from a working-class background and is a true meritocrat. Ditto for his wife, who was a judge. They themselves are Sams Club Republicans from unpretentious Minnesota. Its hard to imagine him confusing arugula with a major Midwestern crop. He is good looking, with no hint of pretty-boy. And he has what seems like an attractively low-key demeanor, that suggests the ability to listen rather than raw ego and ambition. He was one of a very few GOP governors to push alternative energy over the past few years.
The Pawlenty family is a perfect counterpart to the Obama family. They are the same age. As with the Obamas, Tim and Mary met in law school. They, too, have two daughters. Just as Barack followed Michelle to Trinity United, from unbelief, Tim, raised a Catholic, followed his Baptist wife to an Evangelical church. Same generation, similar paths, totally different substance. This contrast is pretty compelling, if you ask me.
Pawlentys downsides are limited to a few tax increases after promising not to, and a question about what kind of conservative he is. He can easily learn to speak with more compelling inflections. Otherwise, with his clear upsides, and limited downsides, he is as good as it gets.” -
The stars are lining up for Sarah Palin now too.
I’m reading, “Going Rogue,” and have loved it all so far. Sarah, and her family are wonderful on so many levels.
But I am very dissappointed in a statement she made twice in that book. She believes the entire legitimate purpose of government to consist of three things: public safety, infrastructure, and education. She says this twice with emphasis.
This is so wrong, and so contrary to the principles this country was founded on, I’m still having a hard time believing she actually wrote it, but she did.
Hank
That's where elections are won.
In some states, there are lots of DINOs - Northern Ohio, for example. In some states, there are lots of RINOs - New England, for example.
President Reagan got his massive landslides by winning both DINOs and RINOs. Conservatives can win with conservatives + DINOs or with conservatives + RINOs, but they can't win with neither.
Sociology is part of this - in my neck of the woods, the DINOs hate Republicans so much - Republicans are their social, cultural, religious and economic enemies - that they will vote for a communist before they'll vote for a self-identified Republican. They may vote for a conservative who "happens to be a Republican", but that conservative has to be an enemy of the party organization who wins a nomination from the outside.
Here's a litmus test for the ability to win DINOs - if you ever even THOUGHT ABOUT the question, "Are Catholics Christians"?, you will never, ever win a single DINO vote - not in a million years.
I believe the "expel the RINOs" movement is ill-considered. There's almost nowhere in the country where a RINOless Republican party can win a single office.
If conservatives are to win without RINOs, then they have to leave the Republican party so that they can win over a big slice of DINOs.
Ronald Reagan was the exception that proves the rule. Even though he was able to use the GOP as a vehicle to win two big landslides, he never took it over, and the GOP he left behind has never been able to attract DINOs the way he could.
RINOs or DINOs - take your pick. With neither, there's no future.
And Ray - we miss you.
Sarah Palin is “as good as it gets”. She is THE target because they know it!
There is no litmus test because the term "litmus test" implies that there are uniform criteria which, in turn, would eliminate the all important whim and pontification factors.
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