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Why You Should Be Hot and Bothered About 'Climate-gate'
FoxNews.com ^ | November 24, 2009 | John Lott

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:13:07 AM PST by ETL

Computer hackers have obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England. These e-mails, which have now been confirmed as real, involved many researchers across the globe with ideologically similar advocates around the world. They were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global warming claims. The academics here also worked closely with the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and Professor Michael Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny.

Among his e-mails, Professor Jones talks to Professor Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series...to hide the decline [in temperature]."..."

Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discusses in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that would otherwise be seen in the results. Professor Mann sent Professor Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he is sending shouldn't be shown to others because the results support critics of global warming. Time after time the discussions refer to hiding or destroying data. ..."

Lots more at link...

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KEYWORDS: climategate; globullwarming; johnlott; warmergate; warmers
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1 posted on 11/25/2009 6:13:07 AM PST by ETL
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To: ETL

There is no greater indictment of the old media than this story. If these same dishonest scientists had been opponents of the AGW theory, “journalists” would be howling from the hilltops like crazed hyenas. Instead… there is silence.


2 posted on 11/25/2009 6:14:39 AM PST by AdaGray (uw)
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To: ETL

The left is unhinged. Many on the left aren’t capable of critical thought. Facts are irrelevant.

The MSM will ignore, or at least minimize the information. This will keep from stirring the minimal brainpower of those spoon fed by the MSM.

If Algore still preaches AGW, the left will still buy it.


3 posted on 11/25/2009 6:18:05 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: ETL

The warmers are a cult, and like all cults are comprised of two kinds, believers and con artists.


4 posted on 11/25/2009 6:18:46 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“The warmers are a cult, and like all cults are comprised of two kinds, believers and con artists.”

None have stated this better.


5 posted on 11/25/2009 6:21:11 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: ETL

What we need to see now are some subpoenas and indictments. Given the astounding level of significance of this subject in terms of economic policies on a global scale (and the real impact on human lives thus affected), I would even go so far as to suggest a ‘Nuremberg Trials’ type of international operation to deal with this fraud. A message needs to be clearly sent, that deceit on such subjects of international import will not be tolerated.


6 posted on 11/25/2009 6:21:37 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: AdaGray
The NYT won't print the emails because they were stolen. So much for their dozen stories on the secret NSA monitoring of terrorist telephones...
7 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: brownsfan
Many on the left aren’t capable of critical thought.

Yet, regardless of the subject, they think they know better and want to tell you how to live every aspect of your life.

It reminds me of a lyric out of that song "Sunshine" by Jonathan Edwards:

"You can't even run your own life, I'll be damned if you'll run mine, Sunshine....."

8 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:23 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Well put.


9 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:29 AM PST by TStro
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To: ETL

Prediction:
The Chicken Littles that have embraced GW will not be pleased if they have to learn it has been a hoax.
The celebration that the Planet is OK...will not happen


10 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:29 AM PST by jcon40
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The NYT won't print the emails because they were stolen.

From what I've read no one knows for sure whether it was a hacker or whether it was a whistle blower. The laimstream media is pushing the hacker story because they are trying to discredit the contents.

The NYT didn't have any trouble printing the Pentagon Papers back in 1971. Those documents were Top Secret......

11 posted on 11/25/2009 6:28:37 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: ETL
It would be nice if the Global Warming crowd understood that they had been suckered by a bunch of con men.
It would be nice if women understood that they had been suckered by feminist leaders who hate Sarah Palin because she a successful career, a happy family, and a husband who helps out at home.
It would be nice if blacks understood that virtually all the cities run by Democrats have enormous crime and poverty problems.
It would be nice if the Clean Energy crowd understood that nuclear fission clean, safe, and abundant -- and is the one source of energy which they hate above all others.

The Left is built on lies, and at least some of these lies are becoming really hard to ignore.

12 posted on 11/25/2009 6:32:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Liberty1970
Any chance that a STATE COURT could be involved?

I mean, if a University is receiving State taxpayer funding -— can another student at that school, or can a taxpayer, file a civil lawsuit?

Can State fraud charges be made, in criminal court?

13 posted on 11/25/2009 6:40:16 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agreed!


14 posted on 11/25/2009 6:42:54 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: ETL

I found this funny as well as informative!

http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/


15 posted on 11/25/2009 6:43:23 AM PST by Trevieze
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To: brownsfan; All
Many on the left aren’t capable of critical thought. Facts are irrelevant.

An example of which is the fact that temperature increases have actually *preceded* CO2 increases all throughout Earth history, and by an average of 800 years! In short, there is zero evidence that CO2 levels even to within 10-15 times of what we have today can cause global warming. We've had substantially higher CO2 levels during ice ages!

THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red, CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation/ice-age periods. Look carefully at this historical relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually *followed* temperature increases -lagging behind by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore continually and dishonestly claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had ever led to increased warming, at least not when the levels were within 10-15 times of what they are today. -etl
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

16 posted on 11/25/2009 6:48:38 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Worse,

they intend to enslave us, reduce our lifestyle AND our population, control our lives through controlling our energy consumption, tax us HEAVILY to fund their world government vision,

all with our “approval” through the scare mongering of “global warming”.

These bastards are as bad as the NAZIs.


17 posted on 11/25/2009 6:53:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It would be nice if the Global Warming crowd understood that they had been suckered by a bunch of con men.

Many wouldn't care. It's an "ends justifies the means" thing for them as well. They also believe in a one-world socialist government.

18 posted on 11/25/2009 6:56:56 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jcon40

Upcoming conversation tomorrow:

“Hey, Uncle Hippy, did you hear the great news?”
“What?”
“Well, it seems that Global Warming was a hoax and we’re NOT all going to die. Even better, we won’t have to switch to CFL lightbulbs, we can drive whatever we want, use as much electricity as we want, keep our homes comfortable, and not pay extra taxes on the energy we consume! Isn’t that great news? ...

uh... why so glum? Weren’t you worried about Global Warming?

Wait a minute! You weren’t worried about Global Warming at all, were you?! It was about controlling people all along, wasn’t it!”


19 posted on 11/25/2009 6:56:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The goals of the Global Warming crowd are in their “solutions”. They want to implement those solutions regardless of whether there is a problem to “solve” or not.

They will NOT be happy.


20 posted on 11/25/2009 6:58:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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