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Wired: “Birth of New Species Witnessed by Scientists”
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 | November 21, 2009
Posted on 11/21/2009 9:59:49 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Scientists have watched as a new species is bornor is that evolved?on one of the Galapagos Islands, home of Darwins famous finches...
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To: GodGunsGuts
    So what species gave birth to this new species?
 
To: NeoConfederate
    Genetic variation within the bird kind, then reproductive isolation.
 
To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...
To: NeoConfederate
    What dreamer darwinists are. Where is a picture of this bird, I think that is what the meandering explanation was about. When the drought is over things will evolve back again.
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:14:47 AM PST
by 
mountainlion
(concerned conservative.)
 
To: GodGunsGuts
    Deceptive headline. The “new” finches appear to be some sort of mutation, and they had trouble reproducing.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:15:57 AM PST
by 
smokingfrog
(I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
 
To: NeoConfederate
    They bred two finches from a different island. The offspring interbred, because the local finches wouldn’t breed with them. So they had several generations of inbred finches. Nothing remarkable about them. No evolution. No new species. Non-story.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:20:32 AM PST
by 
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
 
To: GodGunsGuts
    Variation within species has been observed again. That’s nice.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:21:30 AM PST
by 
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
 
To: GodGunsGuts
    will the new species taste good with drawn butter? “Heck, I’d eat my own head with drawn butter” (Crow T. Robot)
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:22:59 AM PST
by 
isom35
 
To: BykrBayb
    They bred two finches from a different island.  From what the article implied, although it wasn't clearly stated, it sounded like the scientists played a role in this breeding.
 That would merely be intelligent design all over again.
 Of course, with the definition of *species* being so elastic and vague, it's easy to *prove* that a *new species* has *evolved*.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:25:21 AM PST
by 
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
 
To: BykrBayb
    Obviously, there was something genetically or visually wrong with the first bird because the females didn’t want to breed with him. They refused to pollute the gene pool.
That or birds are racist!
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:26:44 AM PST
by 
bgill
(The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
 
To: GodGunsGuts
    If inbreeding amongst abnormal specimens is the key to creating a new species then it might explain some people I have met from back in the hills. It might also explain why Pakistani politics are so confusing to the rest of the world.
To: bgill
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:30:20 AM PST
by 
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
 
To: metmom
    This is all true. Of course, it keeps coming back to the fact that there was no new species.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:32:20 AM PST
by 
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
 
To: BykrBayb
    Even if this were true, which I doubt, it would be Micro Evolution, and nobody denies that, not Macro Evolution of which there is no proof what so ever.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:34:20 AM PST
by 
fish hawk
(It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
 
To: GodGunsGuts
    The snappers and growlers will be ‘evolving’ in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:35:06 AM PST
by 
YHAOS
 
To: GodGunsGuts
    Prove it.
I foresee a startling discovery in the near future. There have been thousands of these “new” finches inhabiting some valley someplace for thousands of years.
Like the difference between a greater and lesser prairie chicken.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:36:57 AM PST
by 
mamelukesabre
(Pray for Obama...Psalms 109:8)
 
To: mamelukesabre
    I’m not sure exactly what it is you asking me to prove.
 
To: metmom
    That would merely be intelligent design all over again. Not that intelligent, unfortunately. Intelligent design would allow for the evolution of viable species. I realize that the "science" of Intelligent Design does not allow for evolution, but I see no reason why it shouldn't. The idea that a divine entity could design a plan that, once set in motion, could evolve into a universe of almost infinite complexity, only makes the concept of that Creator even more awesome.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:43:30 AM PST
by 
giotto
 
To: giotto
    "Intelligent design would allow for the evolution of viable species. "So cars aren't intelligently designed because man didn't allow for their evolution.
 
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posted on 
11/21/2009 10:48:37 AM PST
by 
DannyTN
 
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