Posted on 11/09/2009 8:18:04 AM PST by AmericanHunter
Hello is there anybody out there who still believes our leaders in Washington care about what the Constitution of the United States says? Or what it was intended to mean? Or even that it exists? If there actually is anybody out there who still believes this, recent discussions on Capitol Hill about proposed federal legislation should dispel such thought from the minds of even the most die-hard optimists.
Legislation dealing with the delivery and cost of health care in the United States is nearing votes in both houses of the Congress. Although differing significantly in their details, the primary proposals in both the House and the Senate establish clearly it will be the heavy hand of the federal government, not patients and their doctors, who will be controlling health care decision-making in the decades to come.
With such a massively expensive and substantively far-reaching piece of legislation being debated at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, one would hope that our leaders in Washington, DC might at least pretend to articulate a constitutional justification. It wouldnt be that hard, considering the precedents available at least since the 1930s for finding a justification for even the most intrusive government programs and regulations hiding somewhere in that magnificent document. Even were the infamous commerce clause deemed not sufficient to provide a justification for a government program, the always popular general welfare clause could be dragged out to provide constitutional cover.
In this age of constitutional ignorance, however, Nanny State proponents dont even bother pretending to provide a constitutional underpinning for whatever governmentbased and taxpayer-funded program they advocate. HR 3962, the massive Affordable Health Care for America Act of 2009, is almost 2,000 pages long and would spend more than 1.2 trillion taxpayer dollars, but contains nary a reference to the Constitution; no wave of the hand to general welfare or even a passing homage to the commerce clause.
In fact, when asked recently by a reporter if the health care bill was constitutional, Speaker Nancy Pelosi responded disdainfully, Are you serious? Are you serious? Obviously, she never answered the question.
The reason Pelosi never answered the question about the constitutional foundation for the legislation, is because quite simply, there is none. There is no legitimate basis in the Constitution for the government to control decisions regarding what health care a person receives, what medical services and medications are appropriate for a patient, who is to pay for those services and products and how much they are to cost. Of course, for a federal government that recently concluded it is proper to bail out some private business but not others, to purchase controlling interest in some corporations but not others, and to honor certain contracts but not others, its not really that big a step to directly control individual health care.
The response to another question about the constitutionality of a proposed federal edict is even more revealing of the low esteem in which many congressional leaders hold that once sacred document. West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, who chairs the Commerce Committee, apparently is peeved about people who text with their handheld electronic devices while driving. Not content to leave responsibility for addressing the problem to the several states, through long-standing laws that allow civil suits and criminal prosecutions of persons who cause accidents while driving negligently (for whatever reason, including being distracted by an electronic device), Rockefeller is proposing federal legislation to ban texting while driving.
At a recent Commerce Committee hearing, during which concerns were raised about the constitutionality of such legislation, and about the principle of federalism, Rockefeller proudly proclaimed his constitutional disinterest thus I dont really give a hoot about states rights or federal rights on this one. I care about results. The results include another nail in the coffin of constitutional governance in the United States.
I have a question. If the President or the Supreme Court won’t stop unConstitutional legislation, what will stop it? All that is left after that are the people.
You just answered your own question.
You are correct. I keep asking myself what it’s going to take for the American people to rise up against the traitors and tyrants in D.C.
Is it really hard to understand why they ignore the Constitution? They have proved time and time again that they hate to read - bills, constitution, bill of rights, founding fathers quotes, etc., etc.
You got to break some eggs to make an omelet - comrade.
It was rhetorical. Obviously the Supreme Court is busy finding new rights rather than limiting Congress, so it will ultimately be the States or the people themselves that will have to end this madness.
Or not. 30% of people polled "strongly approve" of the unconstitutional job the POTUS is doing.
48% approve or strongly approve.
Are you kidding me?
The people get the government they deserve.
I think there is a chance that this bill will not pass. If it does it can be tied up in court for years. I’m fairly confident it would die a quick death at the supreme court. There is no way it can be considered constitutional in any way.
With an entire political class that pretends the Constitution doesn’t exist, and treats their sacred oath of office like a mere formality, the people themselves, and whatever habits of liberty still remain ingrained in them, are the only thing standing between us and the grossest forms of tyranny.
That’s what they said about abortion.
I disagree with Barr. The Commerce Clause as butchered by the SCOTUS over the last 100 years provides a catch-all, constitutional basis for just about every law that Congress passes.
Leftists ignore the Constitution out of arrogance.
They simply think they “know better” than those who wrote the Constitution.
I agree. I’m not that optimistic either, but if things get bad enough, people change their mind. It might take 70 years like it did in the Soviet Union, but people change their minds.
“Im fairly confident it would die a quick death at the supreme court. There is no way it can be considered constitutional in any way.”
After Filburn, Kelo, Raich, etc., I’m not so sure the supreme court will protect us from the fed’s power grabs.
El douche’!
And who needs to even consider it in this day and age? It's old and out of date and not in tune with the way modern times demand it to be.
So, just ignore it. (Pelosi)
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