Should we also forget about the 8 or 9 Muslim soldiers like this one?
Posted on 11/08/2009 9:26:47 AM PST by An Old Man
The U.S. Army's top general expressed concern on Sunday that last week's mass shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, blamed on a Muslim Army officer, could fuel a backlash in the military against Muslim troops.
General George Casey, U.S. Army chief of staff, cautioned against jumping to conclusions about whether religious beliefs motivated the accused gunman, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim born in the United States of immigrant parents.
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"I'm concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers. And I've asked our Army leaders to be on the lookout for that," Casey told CNN's "State of the Union."
There are about 3,000 Muslims on active duty military service or in the National Guard or reserve forces, Casey said. They remain a small minority within the U.S. military.
A Fort Hood official has said Hasan yelled "Allahu Akbar" -- Arabic for "God is Greatest" -- just before the shooting in which 13 people were killed and 30 wounded. The 39-year-old U.S. Army psychiatrist was shot four times by police. He was hospitalized but no longer needed a ventilator to breathe.
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Yeah General, when you have a radical Mooselip threatening Jihad you should just look the other way. I suppose you are giving this dirtbag special diet and Koran readings. You don’t want him to feel bad about himself after killing 16 of your troops.
General, you have their blood on your hands.
Pray for America and Ft Hood
In two of your examples, people are removed from society or penalized for something they did. In the third case, the Japanese-Americans, they were removed from society merely for who they were. Are you suggesting the same for Muslims?
I don’t believe any ‘church’ or ‘mosque’ leaders should be advocating violence from the pulpit (or in any other manor). If Muslim leaders are preaching about what violent things need to be done to the infidels, then the Mosque should be closed. At the very least, the leader trying to incite should be charged with incitement and placed in prison.
I have some pretty strong thoughts on this, but I find myself having to modify the thoughts based on the fact that we more wigged out people than Muslims doing some of this stuff.
One day a Muslim causes death and mayhem at Fort Hood in Texas, the next a White guy in Florida. One of our largest terrorist attacks on U.S. soil was committed by White Guys.
I believe we put an end to the incitement and then handle criminals in the same manner we always have.
I have also said that it is just plain nuts to allow people to immigrate to the U.S. who have been raised their entire lives to hate the U.S. I still believe that to be a very valid concern, and that at least during the conduct of war in the region, we must rethink our immigration policies from that region.
No matter what our leaders think, some people around the world think we are at war with Islam. The time for being an Ostrich is over.
There SHOULD be a backlash, especially with all of these Muslim groups now yammering about how Major Jihad was justified in his actions.
If you are a Muslim in this country and you support the mass murder of Americans, you should not expect a pat on the head and a “there, there”. You should not expect tolerance or understanding. And you should not expect to keep pulling a paycheck from the US military.
If Muslim soldiers in the US military are attending mosques preaching destruction of the infidels, then they need to be bounced the hell out. Keeping them ensures that tragedy will indeed happen again. And again. And again.
Or, the military needs to change its policy and allow soldiers to carry weapons freely.
Perhaps Muslims in the Military and in America society will do something to waylay any fears the rest of us have, such as outing those in their midsts who express anti-American sentiments, Imams who preach hatred of America on American soil, something besides hollow statements of they are “peaceful?”
Perhaps they will openly condemn Sharia and begin helping end terror acts in greater numbers than we barely see today.
With three decades of Jihadism how can they expect people not to be nervous?
It is up to the Muslim community as a whole to stand up to those from their numbers who cause the problems, not to protect them from within.
Good, he should. I am sick of Muslims.
Should we also forget about the 8 or 9 Muslim soldiers like this one?
Most were relocated and some were interned, if I recall -- though I was way too young to actually remember the event.
Those relocated were done so in part for their protection.
Hassan was born here.
When more people in the United States have had family members and friends murdered just because they were American (like the Israelis), perhaps more people in the United States will be willing to stand up and say, "Look, they may be, individually, very nice people but as a culture and as a religion, they are dangerous. I want NOTHING more to do with them. I will not buy anything from them. I will intereact with them ONLY to the extent that I am required to by law BUT I WILL NOT BE FRIENDS WITH THEM!!!" ONLY THEN WILL THINGS BEGIN TO CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY.
I don't know the answer either. I was just attempting to probe the depth of the waters.
Semper Fi
Stay well and stay safe.
An Old Man
Potential Muslim violence against the troops = ignore, stick head in sand, hope somebody else can deal with it, try not to get blamed for anything
Potential troop violence against Muslims = code red, prepare the stockades, etc.
They damn sure will be watching their backs.
You are a lucky man, if I were in charge your resignation would have been on my desk already. Your job general is to protect the troops, a job you have completely failed at.
And the problem with that would be?
If they do keep them in, then they should be in unimportant roles, and they should be followed and tracked.
That's what I have heard also. Do you believe it?
There is a pattern that the Army apparently refuses to acknowledge.
And until they do, this pattern will continue.
With more soldiers paying the price.
This is just from 2003.
” A small number of U.S. troops were injured Sunday when an unidentified man drove a pickup into a crowd waiting to shop at the field exchange at Camp Udairi.”
” On Jan. 21, Islamic extremists were blamed for killing a San Diego computer contractor and injuring another American close to Camp Doha, where U.S. forces are based.”
” A Kuwaiti policeman faces trial on charges of shooting and seriously wounding two U.S. soldiers on Nov. 21 after allegedly stopping their car on a highway.”
” In October, Muslim fundamentalists killed one U.S. Marine and injured another on a Kuwaiti island. Other Marines killed the gunmen, who were religious extremists.”
Besides the Muslim plot to kill soldiers at Ft Dix,
the shooting at the Little Rock recruitment center,
the Ft Hood murders and Sgt. Asan Akbar killing one and wounding 15 of the 101st Airborne in Kuwait.
In an unusual coincidence to Hasan ...Sgt Akbar’s mother in 2003 told reporters, without corroboration , that her son was picked on
“ because he was a Muslim .”
And in yet another coincidence to Hasan -
in 2003 the military said Sgt. Asan Akbar was “ recently reprimanded for insubordination “
Akbar had also been having “an attitude problem.”
The motive in the attack “most likely was resentment,”
said Max Blumenfeld, another U.S. Army spokesman.
he Hasan Akbar case covers an event in the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, where US Army sergeant Hasan Karim Akbar (born Mark Fidel Kools in Watts, Los Angeles, California)[1] was convicted for the double-murder, or “fragging”, of two officers of the 327th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.[2]
The victims were Army Captain Christopher Seifert and Air Force Major Gregory Stone. Fourteen other soldiers were also wounded in the incident, which took place on 23 March 2003. The sentence of death, affirmed by the commander of the 18th Airborne Corps,[3] is due to be heard[when?] by the Army Court of Criminal Appeals under an automatic appeal.
Military officials attributed Akbar’s motive to resentment.[11] In a diary entry dated 4 February 2003, Akbar referred to mistreatment by his fellow soldiers:
I suppose they want to punk me or just humiliate me. Perhaps they feel that I will not do anything about that. They are right about that. I am not going to do anything about it as long as I stay here. But as soon as I am in Iraq, I am going to try and kill as many of them as possible.
Akbar wrote prior to the attack “I may not have killed any Muslims, but being in the Army is the same thing. I may have to make a choice very soon on who to kill.”[12]
Prosecutors alleged that his diary entries and his actions (stealing hand grenades and turning off the generator that lit the camp) showed that the attack was premeditated.
Akbar’s mother, Quran Bilal, did tell reporters that she believed intolerance for his race and his Muslim faith created tensions within his unit as it prepared to invade a Muslim country.[1] Akbar’s father has said that his son was the only African American and only Muslim in his company, the other members of which subjected him to constant harassment.[13]
Akbar himself reportedly said, just moments after his arrest, “You guys are coming into our countries, and you’re going to rape our women and kill our children.”[13][14]
I know, but the immediate discharge part would hold, as well as round-the-clock surveillance part. Basically, if you’re affected with the Islam disease, you need to be watched, period. Some more than others.
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