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Sources: Pelosi, Dems lock up 218
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Posted on 11/07/2009 4:38:15 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Sources: Pelosi, Dems lock up 218

By PATRICK O'CONNOR & JOHN BRESNAHAN & JONATHAN ALLEN | 11/7/09 7:16 PM EST

POLITICO 44

Hours before an expected vote on a sweeping health care bill, House Democrats believe they've secured the 218 votes they need to approve the bill, several party insiders said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took to the House floor about 6:30 p.m. to say, “Today we will pass the Affordable Health Care for America Act.. . .We will make history. We will also make progress for America's working families."

In response to a question about whether the bill would pass when she brought it up, Pelosi told reporters Saturday night, "That is our expectation."

Thirty-two Democrats have publicly declared their opposition to the bill, giving party leaders the narrowest possible margin to push the bill across the finish line. But numerous sources said Democrats believe they do have the votes after a day of intense lobbying of wavering Democrats.

Votes have a tendency to shift in the final hours before a controversial vote, but party leaders were expressing more genuine confidence as the sun set over the Capitol than they had exhibited all week. Word started spreading around 5 p.m. that leaders had the votes they needed to pass the $1.2 trillion bill.

Pelosi had all-but-predicted passage of a House health reform bill earlier Saturday, following an emotional appeal from President Barack Obama to fellow Democrats urging them to “answer the call of history” and vote yes.

But she and her top lieutenants earlier stopped short of saying they had the 218 votes needed for passage – signaling a day of vote-wrangling and arm-twisting that could stretch into Saturday night.

And Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami declined to comment. “We are not commenting on whip counts,” Elshami said.

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wishful thinking..........
1 posted on 11/07/2009 4:38:15 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

They have, IMO, declared war upon the American people.


2 posted on 11/07/2009 4:39:54 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes they have declared war. How do they think they will enforce this shit box? They don’t have the resources.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 4:41:14 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: Sub-Driver

So why haven’t they voted?

Pray for America’s Freedom


4 posted on 11/07/2009 4:41:16 PM PST by bray (Silent No More)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes, and they’ve declared victory in their war on the Constitution.


5 posted on 11/07/2009 4:42:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Conservatives didn't send a message to Republicans in NY-23 -The GOP sent a message to conservatives)
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To: Sub-Driver
Um, what do you think about the argument that Pelosi wouldn't even bring it up for a vote if she didn't have the numbers?

On the other hand, looking at the whip count, there are 33 or 34 confirmed nos now, with at least 20 "undecided" or leaning. I don't see how she gets there. She has to get 13/20 or 14/20??

6 posted on 11/07/2009 4:42:45 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ExTexasRedhead
" Affordable Health Care for America Act"

i thought it was now "Health Insurance Reform Act".

yitbos

7 posted on 11/07/2009 4:43:54 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Well do they have enough votes? I hope someone will publish all the names of the members democrats and republicans that voted yes. This needs to be published for the future elections. Anyone who voted yes needs to be thrown out of office at their upcoming next elections!


8 posted on 11/07/2009 4:44:27 PM PST by classified
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To: Sub-Driver

a republican needs to get on that floor and face the Dem.
Look at those who are not comfortable with this and say.
“Pelosi is safe , she will get elected you on the other hand live not in a liberal area but a swing vote area where if you pass this you will most probably lose your job and power, is that what you want because if you do then vote yes but expect to not have a job in year?


9 posted on 11/07/2009 4:44:37 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: LS

Everyone who is so focused on so-called Blue Dogs.... may have overlooked the fact that Pelosi could have some RINOs in her hip pocket.


10 posted on 11/07/2009 4:45:17 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“They have, IMO, declared war upon the American people.”

Ditto

They know this. Does anyone know if they upped their security?


11 posted on 11/07/2009 4:45:42 PM PST by fujimoh
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, piglosi, you have threatened your serfs. Vote for socialism or you will not be re-elected.
Good luck in the Senate bitch. It ain’t going to pass there.


12 posted on 11/07/2009 4:46:19 PM PST by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: Candor7; All

Scozzyfazza would be voting against the abortion amendment and voting for the bill.

Crist is a RINO from fl who could not be trusted on this.

FOLKS GET ANGRY AND GET ACTIVE IN YOUR LOCAL GOP.

This is our call to action across the USA. go to the local GOP meeting AND TAKE OVER THE LOCAL PARTY.

COntrol the local, and you control the national


13 posted on 11/07/2009 4:46:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sub-Driver

Any Rep that supports this travisty will lose their office in one year.
How they can prostitute themselves in this fashion is
befuddling to me.
Politics has no connection to reality.
Politichians have no connection to humanity.


14 posted on 11/07/2009 4:46:41 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m no scholar, but isn’t this bill unconstitutional? Not that it matters to congress, apparently.


15 posted on 11/07/2009 4:47:36 PM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I agree this is a phony leak from the the Marxist using his favorite Dem party media outlet !

Also its been posted before.


16 posted on 11/07/2009 4:47:51 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Sub-Driver

What about the Stupak amendment? Doesn’t the result make a difference to the blue dogs?


17 posted on 11/07/2009 4:48:00 PM PST by DRey
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To: taillightchaser

remember campaign finance reform?


18 posted on 11/07/2009 4:48:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think they had the votes when the election results were final last year. Their only issue was seeing who needed cover and who was in a safe enough district to just vote yes. Oh, and they had to write this monstrosity.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 4:48:35 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Sub-Driver

If they had the votes - they would say they have the votes. She does not have the votes. She may get them but she doesn’t have them now.

The Democrats, polictical correctness, liberal judges, open-borders thansk to liberals, people in DC paid off by the Saudis helped murder 14 Americans the other day.

Sadly, most Americans are more interested in college football and other total and meaningless nonsense. The road to serfdom is paved with ball games.


20 posted on 11/07/2009 4:48:50 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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