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Free Speech Prevails as Stephen Meyer Speaks on Intelligent Design to Huge Crowd (in CO)
Evolution News & Views ^ | October 31, 2009 | John West, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/02/2009 8:38:34 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Castle Rock, Colorado—Despite the first major snowstorm of the season, and unrelenting efforts by malicious Darwinists to prevent people from registering, a huge crowd of around 1,000 people showed up Friday night to hear Dr. Stephen Meyer present the DNA evidence for intelligent design based on his new book Signature in the Cell. Meyer, Michael Behe, David Berlinski, and myself are in Colorado to speak at the Legacy of Darwin ID Conference sponsored by Shepherd Project Ministries. On Saturday, Michael Behe will present the evidence against modern Darwinism from his books Darwin’s Black Box and The Edge of Evolution; David Berlinski will talk about The Devil’s Delusion and The Deniable Darwin; and I will talk about my book Darwin Day in America. Any fair-minded person in the Denver-Castle Rock-Colorado Springs area who still wants to come is welcome to purchase tickets at the door on Saturday morning starting at 8:15 am. The conference is taking place at the Douglas County Events Center. As of tonight, the malicious jamming of the Shepherd’s Project website seems to be continuing. Not content to suppress free speech about Darwin’s theory in schools and colleges and the media, some Darwinist vigilantes are now apparently even trying to stop intelligent design proponents from speaking at private conferences. Fortunately, their suppression tactics don’t seem to be working!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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To: GodGunsGuts

Too bad they couldn’t get Behe to review his testimony from the Dover trial.


21 posted on 11/02/2009 10:04:13 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
"Too bad they couldn’t get Behe to review his testimony from the Dover trial."

I have a great deal of empathy for Behe. While I support his positions on Intelligent Design I understand the scientific and academic communities stance. Creationism and Intelligent Design, like the existence of the soul, cannot be scientifically proved.

22 posted on 11/02/2009 10:36:19 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: celmak; GodGunsGuts; Natural Law
Far worse than censorship! Why, it's tantamount to a dictatorship not to support, or worse yet, disagree with Darwinism.

Consider these comments:

“If you can imagine a world in which the likes of C-Y-C, GGG, and ES have positions of real authority and influence you can appreciate what turned Charles Darwin against organized religion.” and

“”The tactics you are uning to try to stifle discussion of evolution by attacking Darwin won’t work by trying to stifle me either.”

Not just nonsupport but anything less than full-lunged, wide eyed support is censorship. Remember O'Brien is watching!

23 posted on 11/02/2009 10:40:35 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Natural Law
but I don't expect a secular government to support creationist theory in publicly supported schools.

How about intelligent design theory?

24 posted on 11/02/2009 10:46:09 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
"How about intelligent design theory?" I am perfectly comfortable with it being taught, but I dont expect the public school system to do it, or do it right. Heck, they can't even teach reading, writing and 'rithmetic. That's why it is so important for parents to take control of the education of their children and NOT put them into public schools.
25 posted on 11/02/2009 10:50:12 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: count-your-change
"Why, it's tantamount to a dictatorship not to support, or worse yet, disagree with Darwinism."

I don't respond to reductio ad absurdum arguments.

26 posted on 11/02/2009 10:52:27 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
I can't because there isn't one. If your kids aren't in public schools it doesn't matter, does it?

My point is we all have to live with the consequences. You don't think that we have to live with the consequences of all the government school kids being taught nothing but Evolution/Darwinism and no argument against it? And if you think there are no consequences there is little hope for you.

27 posted on 11/02/2009 11:04:30 AM PST by celmak
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To: count-your-change

Very typical of the totalitarian mindset.


28 posted on 11/02/2009 11:11:42 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: celmak
"You don't think that we have to live with the consequences of all the government school kids being taught nothing but Evolution/Darwinism and no argument against it?"

You have to pick your battles. If we create educated, thinking students through legitimate primary education they will arrive at the right conclusions with respect to ID and the Creator.

29 posted on 11/02/2009 11:13:19 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Nor do I, which why I don't respond to your e-mails.

But, these are your posted words, aren't they?:

“If you can imagine a world in which the likes of C-Y-C, GGG, and ES have positions of real authority and influence you can appreciate what turned Charles Darwin against organized religion.”

Creationists live in a world where Darwinists have positions of influence and authority but don't worry, they prefer to argue with Darwinists to suppressing them.

30 posted on 11/02/2009 11:23:49 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Natural Law
You have to pick your battles.

Granted, and I'll take it that you are infering that you are fighting the good fight the way you think fit; but I will fight for the right for all to argue all points of for and againts Darwinism/Evolution in any given forum.

31 posted on 11/02/2009 11:37:59 AM PST by celmak
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To: count-your-change
"Creationists live in a world where Darwinists have positions of influence and authority but don't worry, they prefer to argue with Darwinists to suppressing them."

So, was your shrieking, illogical, factless style of debate created or did it just evolve?

32 posted on 11/02/2009 11:42:04 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: celmak
" but I will fight for the right for all to argue all points of for and againts Darwinism/Evolution in any given forum."

Then we will be at odds because, like Darwin, Pope JP II, Pope Benedict XVI, and the Roman Catholic Church I believe in Intelligent Design. I do believe that God created the heavens and the earth and everything in it, but I believe that he also created processes to bring and sustain life in a dynamic universe. The more scientific research I do or read about the absolute perfection of Gods work the more I say....WOW!!!

33 posted on 11/02/2009 11:53:21 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts

What about the protests from creationists and their campaign against the Vatican meeting on evolution? No, I didn’t hear of any such either.


34 posted on 11/02/2009 11:54:21 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Natural Law

It was your comments that were pulled, not mine. And you aren’t doing any better here.


35 posted on 11/02/2009 12:07:25 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; GodGunsGuts
"What about the protests from creationists and their campaign against the Vatican meeting on evolution? No, I didn’t hear of any such either."

There were indeed protests and a wave of condemnations following the release of the conference proceedings, but I didn't see either of you lauding the conference as a triumph of free speech. It just confirms that you really don't care about free speech, just about your specific advocacy.

36 posted on 11/02/2009 12:09:17 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: count-your-change
"It was your comments that were pulled, not mine. And you aren’t doing any better here."

My post was pulled because I made the mistake of using the grown-up potty word "crap" on the Religion Forum. It had nothing to do with content or conduct. However, since your big sister isn't here to protect you and you can't hit the abuse button on this forum I am pretty safe.

37 posted on 11/02/2009 12:13:34 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Then we will be at odds because, like Darwin, Pope JP II, Pope Benedict XVI, and the Roman Catholic Church I believe in Intelligent Design.

Your guessing again, and missing my point. My point is that all should be able to have the the right to argue all points for and against Darwinism/Evolution in any given legitimate forum; not whether or not whether Darwin, Pope JP II, Pope Benedict XVI, and the Roman Catholic Church believe in Intelligent Design.

As to Darwin believing in God or not is a different battle for a different time.

38 posted on 11/02/2009 12:21:29 PM PST by celmak
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To: Natural Law; count-your-change

The only thing I remember from that conference is the IDers (many of whom are Catholic) being unhappy that they were not included in the origins discussion at the Voatican.


39 posted on 11/02/2009 12:44:51 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law

No, not so. Your comment #20 was pulled (because the Mods read your comment without my help) because of profanity so tell that to someone else.

And the rest of the Darwin myths thread is still there for all to read. I invite all to do so.


40 posted on 11/02/2009 12:47:32 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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