Posted on 11/01/2009 7:20:58 PM PST by kristinn
The Obama administration is considering an almost complete surrender in Afghanistan, if the report this weekend by the BBC's Katty Kay is accurate.
Speaking as a panelist on the Chris Matthews Show, a weekend public affairs broadcast, Kay reported on the internal debate at the White House, "There are real questions being asked, I think, about whether even with a big injection of troops this is a real country, a real war that you can win.
"And there's a new phrase which is floating around the White House which is 'minimum security'. That we're not actually aiming for a country which is stable that we are in control of, but we are aiming for a minimum amount of security and perhaps even a negotiated settlement with the Taliban."
This would tie in with reports that Obama has concluded the U.S. cannot beat the Taliban and that he has requested new studies this week, one of each province to determine which ones may be ceded to the Taliban and another for troop levels other than those requested by Gen. McChrystal over two months ago.
Kay's remarks start at the 19:10 minute in the backward clock on the video. She describes three different views on the situation in Afghanistan that have been presented to Obama: The military needs a large injection of troops to perform the current strategy; even with more troops Afghanistan will never be winnable; and "'we have no choice but to win this war' and that is what President Obama said back in March."
Obama has delayed making his decision such that it most likely will not be announced until the end of November, three months into the twelve month window left to win the war Gen. McChrystal stated in August.
Troop casualties in Afghanistan have skyrocketed in the past three months with over 1000 being wounded, and a reported 58 service members killed this past month making it the deadlist month of the eight-year long war.
On Friday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs bragged Obama has spent almost twenty hours in meetings on Afghanistan since August.
“Obama lost Afghanistan”. That’s what people will say years from now.
I’d bet that all the casualties and deaths started going way up when the scum changed the ROE.
The Taliban will never be fully defeated because the US isn’t willing to go all in on that hell hole.
Just unbelievable!....how the hell is this man the president!..
A negotiated peace would be fine if it were under conditions where no one doubted whose butts got whipped.
But a negotiated peace at this juncture would allow the Taleban to claim-- with a great deal of evidence-- that they humbed "the Great Satan."
That would not be a good result. I would like to believe that even Obambi can see this--but this fool has given me zero confidence in his strategic judgement.
1- What exactly constitutes "winning" in Afghanistan?
2- It is a country run by tribal opium growers who are living in the seventh century. Can we really change it?
3- If we can change it, will they still put women into hefty bags and play polo with goats' heads?
I am 100% hawk and want to win the war against the muz, but these questions need to be answered. The Bear found out that they could not change Afghanistan.
They skyrocketed within weeks of the new ROE. Just a coincidence though...
Obama = Surrender Monkey.
And yes I know that isn’t politically correct!
Arm yourselves.
see reply # 2.
Just as it is only a "coincidence" that the economy started to tank just after the JACKASS party took over in 2007.
Just raise a White Flag over the Whitehouse.
Better yet, put a minaret up there.
Ditto that....and make a “list”.
Don't know about the nation building thing, they've never had a nation really and as long as they adhere to a death cult that gets off on human sacrifice, well...
They have to be made "not a threat".
‘Zactly
Disgusting behavior for a president and commander in chief.
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