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Vanity: Usurper Detection Legislation Should Be Passed Within Each State
10-30-2009 | Uncle Sham

Posted on 10/30/2009 3:00:46 PM PDT by Uncle Sham

Since it appears that the judicial branch is intent on abandoning it's duty to uphold the Constitution, perhaps it's time for the states themselves to individually pass legislation that will protect their citizens from the actions of anyone who illegally occupies the Oval office.

There is nothing to prevent a state from passing a law requiring that the President must file his PROOF of meeting eligibility requirements with the state and that such a filing is open to public challenge in court.

Such a law could stipulate that any legislation signed by a President who refuses or is unable to meet this requirement to file shall be declared null and void within the borders of the state. No orders affecting any of the states citizens from such a usurper would have legal standing within the borders of the state. In addition, the act could command all legislators at the national level to institute whatever legal mechanism is required to challenge the standing of such a usurper.

It seems to me, any state-passed law that ENFORCES the Constitution would be judged as "Constitutional". Perhaps this can be done through a ballot initiative if the legislators refuse to look into it. We do not have to WAIT until the next Presidential election to handcuff a possible usurper. This can be done NOW and immediately protect a state's citizens from having to live with ILLEGALLY made legislation or orders.


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To: Uncle Sham

The republicans in our red state will do everything possible to thwart any legislation to require a candidate to prove his qualifications.

They are ( all of them) weenies with the collective gonads the size of one dust mite.

( My apologies to dust mites.)


61 posted on 10/31/2009 8:03:38 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: quintr; Uncle Sham
I was under the impression that this was part of the process of the Secretaries of State when they certified the elected officials. ???

I understand that the Democrats undertook a "Secretaries of State" project in the wake of the 2000 election. Its goal appears to be to oust ALL Republican secretaries of state.

Let's examine what they've been working on. This is CRUCIAL for the midterm and 2012 elections.

http://www.secstateproject.org/

I was also under the impression that the SoS of each state was the "gatekeeper." I am also under the impression that by the time the usurper has gotten on a ballot, it's already too late.

62 posted on 10/31/2009 10:04:04 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Uncle Sham

Is a usurper detector similer to a Beeber?


63 posted on 10/31/2009 11:35:49 AM PDT by exnavy (GOD save the republic)
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To: Kolokotronis
Really? Was he asked? If not, maybe no one, I mean really no one, thought it was worth discussing.

Not quite right. Obama has shown his birth certificate. To Republican-appointed officials.

He has a passport, issued under a Republican President with a Republican head of the State Department when he became a senator in 2005.

The US State Department has seen his birth certificate, either under Colin Powell or Condolleeza Rice.

Unless they're in on the conspiracy, too.

64 posted on 10/31/2009 1:39:29 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this huckster?)
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To: mountainbunny

Answer to all your eligibility questions/answers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujugUiFtBKU&feature=related


65 posted on 10/31/2009 2:16:17 PM PDT by GregTM
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To: Kolokotronis

By 2011 the entire population will know him as the Kenyan dirtbag.


66 posted on 10/31/2009 2:56:38 PM PDT by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: MissTickly

Your thoughts on this?


67 posted on 10/31/2009 3:34:12 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham
Is it just me or are we being tested?

Do our elected ones just want to see how much of the Constitution they can violate and get away with?

Not only does this law need to be passed since congress
has demonstrated that it will not uphold the constitution
but congress must be purged in the upcoming elections.

It was a simple task, Mr. Obama should have been asked
to produce his records.

Congress failed.

Now I would to like to know, did congress do this on
purpose?

Judging by what I know about the Progressive (communist)
Caucus I would say yes.

Today the Natural born clause, tomorrow the 1st amendment,
(in the works)the next day the 2nd amendment etc.

There is only one way to stop this.

Vote them all out.

Of course we can't do that if the likes of Acorn keep
stuffing the ballot boxes with dead and nonexistent voters and
using Illegals to redraw the voting districts continues.
Democrats have a long history of rigging elections.

Just my opinion.

68 posted on 10/31/2009 4:00:07 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: ccruse456

“You’re thinking along the right lines, but the state legislators are politicians, and they have all proven to be craven cowards on this issue.”
Yeah whatever! Just don’t forget to vote GOP in ‘10. It doesn’t matter that they pay as much lip service to the Constitution as the dems do, we just have to vote for them.

I for one have some self respect and will be voting for a party worthy of conservatism. I won’t be choosing the “lesser of two evils”, and hope others join me.


69 posted on 11/01/2009 5:19:25 PM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: wintertime

Who will you be giving your vote to next year? Need help finding a decent party we (people who care about our Constitution) can band together and vote for; it would be foolish to divide our vote.


70 posted on 11/01/2009 5:23:19 PM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: Kolokotronis

“the perfectly legal Hawaii birth certificate”
You mean the one that has only been seen as a .jpg on the internet? When you can’t examine the original, forgery is easy.

Furthermore, it is well known that back when BO was born, Hawaii was happy to issue COLBs to immigrants, so it’s not reliable. What would be reliable would be the hospital birth certificate (long form), which is what he is withholding.

Nor has the state of Hawaii authenticated this alleged birth certificate.


71 posted on 11/01/2009 5:37:10 PM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: Jack Hammer
...those books will be written in Chinese.

"This era displayed the first exciting glimmers of the glorious red dawn over the People's Republic of America."
72 posted on 11/04/2009 8:07:40 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Laserman

“Actually, it would only take a few states to do this in order to make sure a candidate was qualified. Any candidate that failed to register in even one state would be drummed out of the election process.”

You really think so?

I don’t.

Something about “Never underestimate the stupidity of ...”

I hope you are right and I am wrong ...


73 posted on 11/06/2009 10:33:41 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: frankenMonkey

Very well thought out.


74 posted on 11/06/2009 10:41:46 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Uncle Sham
There is nothing to prevent a state from passing a law requiring that the President must file his PROOF of meeting eligibility requirements with the state and that such a filing is open to public challenge in court.

Ex Post Facto law. It would be declared Unconstitutional if attempted to be enforced against the present Kenyan Usurper.

Would be less trouble for a state governor to issue an executive order confiscating all federal revenue collected in the state until such a time as the eligibility of the present occupant of the oval office is established through proper documentation.

75 posted on 11/07/2009 6:16:00 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Uncle Sham

“Ex Post Facto law. It would be declared Unconstitutional if attempted to be enforced against the present Kenyan Usurper.”

“Would be less trouble for a state governor to issue an executive order confiscating all federal revenue collected in the state until such a time as the eligibility of the present occupant of the oval office is established through proper documentation.”


The states should pass it this way:

No candidate’s name may be placed on any ballot in the state until the candidate has proven all eligibility for the office sought.

This would not be an Ex Post Facto law.

In the short term, the governors should indeed decree that instead of sending tax payments to the IRS, they be sent to the state department of revenue.


76 posted on 11/07/2009 6:29:36 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Kolokotronis

What rookie spy from any country in Europe or Asia couldn’t land in Honolulu and have all of the information from a “sealed” vital statistics record in his satchel within 30 days?

Are we really to believe that Moscow, Beijing, Tel Aviv, Paris, London, Tokyo, Rome, Damascas, Rhyad, Tehran, etc., etc. don’t already know the exact place of Obama’s birth? They didn’t have to go to Honolulu. They probably got all they needed in Nairobi.


77 posted on 11/07/2009 6:42:03 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
No candidate’s name may be placed on any ballot in the state until the candidate has proven all eligibility for the office sought.

This would not be an Ex Post Facto law.

It would be an Ex Post Facto law ONLY if applied to the Kenyan Usurper currently occupying the oval office.

It would be perfectly legitimate for subsequent candidates for that office, and possibly would apply to Obama in his next campaign (i really don't know about that one way or the other).

78 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:44 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

To apply it to the next election would mean it is NOT Ex Post Facto.


79 posted on 11/07/2009 8:27:09 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789; Calvinist_Dark_Lord
"Ex Post Facto" would not apply to a law passed that goes into effect the day it is passed. Since this law would require the President to file a copy of his long form birth certificate with the state BEFORE any of his NEXT orders or signed legislation would occur, it cannot be Ex Post Facto.

Like I said, if he's "Legal", what's the problem? This law would put the issue to the test where someone who is "illegal" doesn't want it. Judged upon the merits in a court of law.

80 posted on 11/07/2009 9:03:13 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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