Posted on 10/30/2009 3:00:46 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
Since it appears that the judicial branch is intent on abandoning it's duty to uphold the Constitution, perhaps it's time for the states themselves to individually pass legislation that will protect their citizens from the actions of anyone who illegally occupies the Oval office.
There is nothing to prevent a state from passing a law requiring that the President must file his PROOF of meeting eligibility requirements with the state and that such a filing is open to public challenge in court.
Such a law could stipulate that any legislation signed by a President who refuses or is unable to meet this requirement to file shall be declared null and void within the borders of the state. No orders affecting any of the states citizens from such a usurper would have legal standing within the borders of the state. In addition, the act could command all legislators at the national level to institute whatever legal mechanism is required to challenge the standing of such a usurper.
It seems to me, any state-passed law that ENFORCES the Constitution would be judged as "Constitutional". Perhaps this can be done through a ballot initiative if the legislators refuse to look into it. We do not have to WAIT until the next Presidential election to handcuff a possible usurper. This can be done NOW and immediately protect a state's citizens from having to live with ILLEGALLY made legislation or orders.
Here’s another thread in case you haven’t seen it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2383292/posts
The Coming Storm - State Sovereignty
Thanks for the information. Do you suppose the law I’ve suggested would be easier to enact, at least in a couple of states? If so, which states would, in your opinion, be most likely to consider it?
Jim, it was good seeing you once again. Keep up the good health! This is the thread I told you about.
Unfortunately, Doyle the Boil is a despicable NEANDRATHOL!
Is it any wonder months ago, Doyle *Proclaimed* he would not seek re election?
Uhh Doyle?
Do Wisconsin an Un Paid intellectually Honest favor!
Quit!
Release Wisconsin's hard working tax payers from your bondage! I found your *Photo Op* with Ovomit in Milwaukee, outrageous and embarrassing! When you accepted worthless Federal money from a unaccomplished THUG, squating in America's White House, I along with thousands of Wisconsin residents, heaved up collective chunks of undigested rat poison. Sadly, we accepted your corrupt leadership, Mr, Doyle and his Republican/Democratic Minions need to be purged from their cushy corrupt caves.
The sooner the better!
Nice work! I rarely see an accurate representation of all the pending legislation in GA.
As far as initiative is concerned, please remember that many states don't have any provision for it at all.
Thanks for locating this info, Lady Jag.
Makes me sad to see this about my state: “Failed on the floor to pass with amendment.”
Additionally, to ensure the validity of electons, the states must make it a priority to investigate and prosecute voter fraud NOW.
If I am not mistaken, there were two anti-sedition acts passed in American history (one during the John Adams administration and one during World War I), and both were either repealed or declared unconstitutional. Despite the fact that federal criminal law is now touches on just about every activity known to mankind, there is no crime on the books now known as "sedition."
On the contrary, what the "Birthers" are doing - by going to court and seeking redress of a likely insult to the Constitution - is well within the confines of the First Amendment's rights to free speech and to petition the government for redress of grievances.
Right on, ExTexasRedhead!
All of these ‘movements’ (except for Hawaii) are explicit restatements of what has always been in place, but not necessarily enforced, as detailed by the 10th Amendment. Hawaii is actually aiming for total sovereignty as it is claimed that Hawaii was never really a state of the U.S.A..
However, I believe the intent of these bills is to let the federal government know that the states’ sovereignty will not be overwritten… say in case certain gun ban laws get passed, FOCA-type laws, or other “War Time / Martial Law” type plans come into play. Check them out:
States That Already Are Sovereign / Passed 10th Amendement Restatement Legislature:
– California (CA): [CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO and HERE]
– Colorado (CO): [CLICK HERE for bill text - HERE for the scan] *NEW*
- Hawaii (HI): [General info: HERE or HERE -- SCOTUS Case: HERE for docket & HERE or HERE for summary]
– Louisiana (LA): [CLICK HERE - §26] *NEW*
– Massachusetts (MA): [CLICK HERE - Article IV] *NEW*
– Oklahoma (OK): [CLICK HERE and HERE - 99% done... stay tuned! (I'll count it as passed for now)] *NEW*
– Texas (TX): [THIS WEBSITE] has good Republic of Texas info & bill text HERE]
– Utah (UT): [CLICK HERE and search for HJR003 or HERE for a pdf] *NEW*
States Claiming Sovereignty:
– Arizona (AZ): [CLICK HERE]
– Arkansas (AR): [CLICK HERE]
– Georgia (GA): [CLICK HERE]
– Kansas (KS): [CLICK HERE for bill text - hearing date set for approx. 03/04!] *NEW*
- Kentucky (KY): [CLICK HERE and HERE] *NEW*
– Indiana (IN): [CLICK HERE]
- Iowa (IA): [CLICK HERE and more info HERE]
– Michigan (MI): [CLICK HERE (HCR No. 4)]
– Minnesota (MN): [CLICK HERE - more info HERE and HERE]
– Missouri (MO): [CLICK HERE -- CLICK HERE for even more info (but currently broken)]
– Montana (MT): [CLICK HERE]
– New Hampshire (NH): [CLICK HERE]
- South Carolina (SC): [CLICK HERE]
– Tennessee (TN): [CLICK HERE or HERE]
– Washington (WA): [CLICK HERE]
States Planning / Motioning Toward Claiming Sovereignty:
- Alabama (AL): (Sources below*)
– Alaska (AK): (Sources below*)
– Idaho (ID): (Sources below*)
– Maine (ME): (Sources below*)
– Nevada (NV): (Sources below*)
- Ohio (OH): (CLICK HERE, HERE, and HERE) *NEW*
– Pennsylvania (PA): (CLICK HERE for page and HERE for text & Sources below*)
– West Virginia (WV): (CLICK HERE — Bill text HERE)
[Source # 1] & [Source # 2] for the “pending / planning” states.
States on the ‘Watch List’ (these are not counted in the total & not on the map):
- Florida (FL): [CLICK HERE for a petition]
http://waronyou.com/topics/31-states-already-are-are-now-claiming-or-are-planning-for-declaration-of-sovereignty
November 10,2009
“Wow, I’ve been on FR close to five years and that’s the first I’ve heard of any Americans accused of “sedition.””
Really? Read more.
“If I am not mistaken, there were two anti-sedition acts passed in American history (one during the John Adams administration and one during World War I), and both were either repealed or declared unconstitutional. Despite the fact that federal criminal law is now touches on just about every activity known to mankind, there is no crime on the books now known as “sedition.””
You are mistaken. Take a look at 18 USC Chap 115. The law is quite current and quite constitutional.
The birthers are the most obvious seditionists as by encouraging mutiny in time of war, they are violating 18 USC 2388, but there are plenty of others roaming around, a number on the internet. I am told some of them think that the government doesn’t know who they are, or the extent to which others are supporting them. :)
Thanks for the ping!
Bump!
Very interesting, thanks much for the ping.
A lot of links to info, I’m still pecking away at them.
Sounds like a winner to me.
Nope. No sedition here, Oh Turk-eater (I read your home page - very nice!)
The requirments to be President are specific: natural born citizen; a minimum of 35 years old; and must have resided within the United State for the past 14 years. Any state requiring a candidate for President to proffer evidence supporting any of the three requirments is, I believe, a neat, effiecient and assured method to affirm the Constitutional requirements to be President.
Natural born citizen proof is a no brainer. It can easily be done by supplying birth certificates of grandparents, parents, and for self a long form birth certificate.
The age requirement too can be affrimed using the long-form birth certificate.
Residency requirement can be confirmed by drivers licenses. (Frankly, I find it difficult to imagine any candidate for President who would not have a drivers license, but there are other means of determining residency such as utility bills and tax returns.)
I started investigating Barack Obama’s background almost two years ago, and it was weird how information about him would just “poof”, disappear off the internet, scrubbed clean. This man has something about himself he seriously doesn’t want known, and that is flat-out wrong. Why? In these kind of situations it is usually because he’s a major security risk.
So the birth certificate, for better or for worse, is emblematic of this President’s term - very secretive and most likely not friendly to American interests.
obumpa
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