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US Postal Service enforces gun ban in public parking lots
The Examiner.com ^ | October19, 2009 | Mike Stollenwerk

Posted on 10/29/2009 7:54:00 AM PDT by majstoll

USPS spokesperson Joanne Vito told the Examiner.com that 39 CFR 232.1(l)

“applies to anyone coming into a Post Office or a Postal facility. The regulation prohibiting the possession of firearms or other weapons applies to all real property under the charge and control of the Postal Service. . . . Both open and concealed possession are prohibited, so storage of a weapon on a car parked in a lot that is under the charge and control of the Postal Service would be prohibited.”

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Philip Van Cleave, President of the Virginia Citizens Defense League . . . said that the Postal Service is just “setting a trap” for the many gun owners who now carry their guns on a daily basis and may not even know about this parking lot gun ban. “Even the National Park gun ban allowed folks to store their guns in their cars,” said Van Cleave . .

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The postal regulation does not contain a lawful purpose exception as does the general federal facilities gun ban.

Please DIGG this article.

1 posted on 10/29/2009 7:54:00 AM PDT by majstoll
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To: majstoll

Does that include the EMPLOYEES?....................


2 posted on 10/29/2009 7:56:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: majstoll
First step:

Inspect all Postal Service employee vehicles.

3 posted on 10/29/2009 7:56:40 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

No kidding. The phrase “going postal” came about from postal employees going postal.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 7:58:04 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: majstoll

How about in the back office?


5 posted on 10/29/2009 7:58:16 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: majstoll

Sounds like Thune and the like need to attach another rider amendment on the USPS and gain back our RIGHT of carrying on USPS property.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 8:00:11 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: majstoll
Hello, Heller III - "right to bear".
7 posted on 10/29/2009 8:00:12 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (End the coup!)
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To: majstoll

Need any more proof that government employees, except military, are socialist, communist and not willing to serve the general public?


8 posted on 10/29/2009 8:01:46 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: majstoll

I must have broken the law dozens of times. But I don’t really use the U.S.P.S. much anymore. Pity. /s


9 posted on 10/29/2009 8:03:58 AM PDT by manic4organic (Obama shot hoops, America lost troops.)
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To: majstoll
(l) Weapons and explosives. No person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.

However, the next provision states

(m) Nondiscrimination. There must be no discrimination by segregation or otherwise against any person or persons because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age (persons 40 years of age or older are protected), reprisal (discrimination against a person for having filed or for having participated in the processing of an EEO complaint--29 CFR 1613.26l-262), or physical or mental handicap, in furnishing, or by refusing to furnish to such person or persons the use of any facility of a public nature, including all services, privileges, accommodations, and activities provided on postal property.

Seems discriminatory to me to not allow me to carry a pistol that I carry everywhere else. :)

10 posted on 10/29/2009 8:05:09 AM PDT by Roos_Girl ("Obama is Kenyan for idiot" - CC)
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To: majstoll

Smallink not working. This one does: http://www.examiner.com/x-2782-DC-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m10d19-US-Postal-Service-enforces-gun-ban-in-public-parking-lots

Article raises two interesting points: (1) There is a court case involved, and the defendant who lost on appeal was a postal employee. (2) You can mail longuns, but according to the USPS, you can’t posses a long gun on USPS property.

Insane.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 8:05:48 AM PDT by piytar (This tag deleted by the Ministry of Truth. Love Big Brother. Or else!)
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To: majstoll

Very interesting; I wonder how it would interact with NM state-law which considers a vehicle an extension of the owner’s domicile (meaning you can have a gun in your vehicle while you park at campus and take classes).


12 posted on 10/29/2009 8:07:53 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Red Badger

“Does that include the EMPLOYEES?....................”

Such a law would help ensure employees “going postal” would have a clear killing field.


13 posted on 10/29/2009 8:10:12 AM PDT by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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To: majstoll

Hmmmm...wonder if it covers USPS offices in strip centers. Our local USPS office is right in between a Walgreen’s and a frozen yogurt shop. Also, shouldn’t they be required to post signs at the entrances just as they do on the buildings? If they are going to enforce this, that should be the first thing they have to do.


14 posted on 10/29/2009 8:10:33 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: piytar

>Article raises two interesting points:
>(1) There is a court case involved, and the defendant who lost on appeal was a postal employee.
>(2) You can mail longuns, but according to the USPS, you can’t posses a long gun on USPS property.
>
>Insane.

Indeed, I noticed that too.


15 posted on 10/29/2009 8:11:04 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ctdonath2

Heller II is already in the courts (types of weapons) Heller 2.1 (incorporation) is @ the SCTOUS level already. You are correct, that Heller 3.0 will be “right to bear” arms.

SCOTUS has already ruled that you (I believe only by dicta though) that you cannot “prohibit” individuals from open carry, because 2A IS your permit to do this, however, you can discriminate for concealed permits, only if you Constitutionally allow open carry.


16 posted on 10/29/2009 8:12:29 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: majstoll

Haha, this will work. Because we all know that when someone wants to go on a killing spree they ALWAYS follow parking-lot gun bans.


17 posted on 10/29/2009 8:12:32 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: theKid51; ourusa; Apple Blossom

ping


18 posted on 10/29/2009 8:13:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: majstoll

I would never, ever carry my weapon or have it in my vehicle on USPS property. Nor would I ever have a weapon on any property to which the USPS delivers mail. Nope, not me.

Now if you’ll excuse me I need to go douse the flames on my trousers.


19 posted on 10/29/2009 8:13:59 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("I want to see you make decisions without your televisions.")
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To: majstoll

If you’re not yet boycotting the USPS, maybe it’s time to consider it.


20 posted on 10/29/2009 8:16:39 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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