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The More They Know Darwin, The Less They Want Darwin-Only Indoctrination
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| October 27, 2009
| Anika Smith
Posted on 10/28/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
The More They Know Darwin, The Less They Want Darwin-Only Indoctrination
According to an international poll released by the British Council, the majority of Americans 60% support teaching alternatives to evolution in the science classroom. The percentage is the same for Britons, despite the fact that both countries have been inundated with pro-Darwin media coverage in this super-mega Darwin Year.
Of course, the British media reporting this are chagrined. Britain is the birthplace of Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution, and the official-sounding British Council, the UK group behind the Darwin Now campaign that commissioned the Ipsos MORI poll, have spent precious resources educating the world about Darwin. Now some believe the poll shows that efforts by Darwinist organizations aren't working.
Head of the British Councils Darwin Now program Fern Elsdon-Baker said, Overall these results may reflect the need for a more sophisticated approach to teaching and communicating how science works as a process.
While Darwins apologists might try to explain the poll numbers as an example of ignorance influencing peoples beliefs, the numbers themselves suggest a different picture.
Across the board, most respondents from the ten countries polled thought that other perspectives on the origins of species such as intelligent design and creationism should be taught in science class*. When the poll is weighted to include only those respondents who have heard of Charles Darwin and know something about his theory of evolution, the percentage supporting alternate theories increases, from 60% to 66% in Britain and 60% to 64% in the U.S.
The correlation appears again when we consider which countries have more knowledge of Darwins theory. The highest numbers of those in support of alternative theories in the classroom correspond to the highest numbers of those familiar with Charles Darwin 60% in Britain, 65% in Mexico, 61% in China, 66% in Russia, and 60% in the U.S. It appears that the more people know about Darwins theory, the more they want to see alternatives in science class.
The basic truth is that most people want evolution to have to compete for its place of dominance in their schools. Interestingly, the U.S. was the only nation with significant knowledge of Darwin where respondents chose the option theories about the origins of species and development of life on earth should not be taught in science lessons at all. 14% chose that, compared with 3% in Britain.
*This takes both those who select "other perspectives" only and those who select "other perspectives" together with "evolutionary theories." It should be noted that Discovery Institute opposes efforts to mandate teaching alternative theories in the science classroom we'd rather have the whole picture of evolution, the scientific arguments both for and against the theory, presented instead.
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To: GodGunsGuts
“According to an international poll released by the British Council, the majority of Americans 60% support teaching alternatives to evolution in the science classroom. “
Now we got GGG telling us that the internationals should tell us what we should think.
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:22:00 PM PDT
by
ColdWater
("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
To: Rafterman
It would appear that you are the latest FReeper to make the ultimate sacrifice to the Bearded Buddha of Naturalism. You know, it's not too late to reclaim your brain. But you better hurry up and get it back before the Temple of Darwin clears them out to make room for the next batch of darwin-drones:
To: GodGunsGuts
Easily the biggest challenge facing the ID community is to develop a full-fledged theory of biological design. We dont have such a theory right now, and thats a problem. Without a theory, its very hard to know where to direct your research focus. Right now, weve got a bag of powerful intuitions, and a handful of notions such as irreducible complexity and specified complexity-but, as yet, no general theory of biological design. ~ Paul Nelson Touchstone Magazine 7/8 (2004): pp 64 65.
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:27:40 PM PDT
by
Ira_Louvin
(Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
To: Ira_Louvin
Easily the biggest challenge facing the ID community is to develop a full-fledged theory of biological design. I thought their biggest problem was recruiting their first non-paid member.
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:33:04 PM PDT
by
ColdWater
("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
To: GodGunsGuts
To: GodGunsGuts
But you better hurry up and get it back before the Temple of Darwin clears them out to make room for the next batch of darwin-drones: Are those the same drones who rejected Darwin's Pangenesis theory?
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:36:50 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: ColdWater
I thought their biggest problem was recruiting their first non-paid member.Yeah, that and a single shred of scientific evidence...
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:36:55 PM PDT
by
Rafterman
("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -- Curtis LeMay)
To: Ira_Louvin
Don’t bother making any sense here. It cannot be absorbed in such an atmosphere. These people don’t “believe” in genetics, so I guess they are happy to condemn millions of ill people to their fate because they are so “wise” they can’t tell the difference between a scientific theory and a religious belief.
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:41:19 PM PDT
by
La Lydia
To: GodGunsGuts
I clicked on the “more knowledge” link. well worth effort to read the survey, no wonder the ‘council’ would press for more Darwinism teaching. All that effort and so little results.
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:50:08 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: GodGunsGuts
How about just eliminating the scientifically refuted evidence which is still in school textbooks and allowing critical thought and discussion of the theory instead of teaching information as scientific fact which isn’t? I remember one sentence in my book that dated a fossil to an EXACT year over 300 million years ago — I mean like 300,343,387 years ago. Last I checked we didn’t have that type of accuracy but the information is communicated in that fashion to dissuade any critical questioning. The controversy is because of the dogma surrounding common ancestry. Day by day the whole thing is smelling more and more like the global warming hoax.
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posted on
10/28/2009 8:55:58 PM PDT
by
Naspino
(Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
To: La Lydia
The great trouble with religion any religion is that a religionist, having accepted certain propositions by faith, cannot thereafter judge those propositions by evidence. One may bask at the warm fire of faith or choose to live in the bleak uncertainty of reason but one cannot have both.Robert Heinlein
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:00:39 PM PDT
by
Rafterman
("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -- Curtis LeMay)
To: Hiddigeigei
I sometimes wonder if people put stuff like this on the FreeRepublic to make us look like morons. LOL, All adults accept the fact that in any given population you have a certain number of kooks. But you are correct, just over look them.
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:02:15 PM PDT
by
org.whodat
(Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
To: Rafterman
“Yeah, whatever... maybe a lot of us are just sick of these stupid “creationists vs. evolutionists” threads that are nothing more than thinly-veiled proselytizing. Why don’t you keep this baloney in the Religion forum where it belongs?”
Oh, no! Not proselytizing! RUN!
To: rae4palin
How about keeping the proselytizing in the RELIGION forum, instead of in News/Activism?
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:09:10 PM PDT
by
Rafterman
("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -- Curtis LeMay)
To: CanaGuy
I am just about finished with Signature in the Cell by Meyers. His analysis is difficult to refute. This probably is why Dawkins refused to debate Dr.Meyers. This is a very important book.
To: Naspino
I remember one sentence in my book Which textbook are you referring to?
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:09:59 PM PDT
by
ColdWater
("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
To: CanaGuy; GodGunsGuts
I found a video
here on Meyer discussing his book
Signature in the Cell. The video is an hour long so I'll have to watch it tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:23:26 PM PDT
by
scripter
("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
To: La Lydia; GodGunsGuts; metmom
These people dont believe in genetics...Amazing...if you can't compete...just lie.
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:24:22 PM PDT
by
tpanther
(Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
To: Ira_Louvin
Was this the same Muller that offered a eugenics breeding program to Stalin?
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:25:21 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: GodGunsGuts
“Hain’t we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain’t that a big enough majority in any town?”
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posted on
10/28/2009 9:27:34 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Halfway honest people reject Darwinism)
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