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Dick Armey to endorse 3rd party candidate over Republican in NY House race
Dallas Morning News ^ | 2:04 PM Mon, Oct 19, 2009 | Dick Armey to endorse 3rd party candidate over Republican in NY House race

Posted on 10/19/2009 1:37:18 PM PDT by cc2k

The special election to fill New York's vacant 23rd congressional seat is perhaps the earliest test of the GOP's chances to reclaim the House in 2010. Yet the GOP candidate, Dede Scozzafava, has struggled to line up Republican support, and has taken a pummeling from conservative groups that assert she's liberal. The Club for Growth and Eagle Forum, among others, support her opponent, Doug Hoffman, who's running on the Conservative Party ticket.

Add North Texas' Dick Armey to the list of conservative stars backing Hoffman. The former House Majority Leader has confirmed to the Hoffman campaign that he'll spend Thursday with them, said Rob Ryan, a Hoffman spokesman. "He is with us almost all day Thursday," Ryan told me. "There will be a bunch of different events." Armey's endorsement of Hoffman is personal and wasn't offered on behalf of FreedomWorks, the conservative foundation he chairs.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2009endorsements; armey; doughoffman; hoffman; ny2009; ny23; rino; scozzafava; specialelection; thirdparty
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To: dangus
Excuse me, but how the **** does voting for a Conservative Party over a pro-gay, pro-abortion, socialist help Obama win in 2012?

When faced with with a no-win situation of voting for a true conservative v/s a Republicrat or a Democrat, well the answer is easy.

Republican or Republicrat? No real difference.

121 posted on 10/19/2009 4:38:14 PM PDT by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns, Guts and Garden and OBTW, Obama LIES.)
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To: helpfulresearcher; FreedomPoster; Fu-fu2; annalex
helpfulresearcher wrote:
This is a great opportunity to see who is friend or foe. It is the litmus test we need to decide who is a party-over-principle RINO slime ball and who is a real conservative.
You are correct. Pete Sessions, the chair of the RCCC should be targeted for retirement. He definitely needs to step down from the RCCC over this.

In a previous story, there was this:


Just 17 members — about 10 percent of the GOP conference — have written checks to Scozzafava’s campaign. They include House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is in charge of recruiting candidates to run next year.
That tells us that we need to check the FEC filings and reports. There are 17 “Party over principle” Republicans including the four specifically named. These people need strong, electable Primary challengers.

FreedomPoster and Fu-fu2 wrote:
Does this election require a majority or a plurality?

In the case of no majority, I assume there is a run-off among the top two finishers?

If that last is the case, I might contribute to the Conservative.
I plan to call the Hoffman campaign tomorrow and get you the best answer I can on this.

I encourage you to contribute anyway. This district elected a conservative last year, and rejected a RINO on the same ballot. The district voted 65% for John McHugh, a man who has represented the district for many years (19 I think), and who has a lifetime rating of 71.55% from the American Conservative Union. On the same ballot, John McCain, RINO for President lost this district. It went 52% for Obama.

I feel strongly that this is a district where a Conservative independent can beat two liberals, even in a straight up winner take all race. The thing that is distorting this race is the big money flowing to the Dem and the big “R” libeRal. On the issues, Doug Hoffman is much, much closer to their previous congressman, John McHugh than either of the other challengers.

I’m unemployed, and I gave what I could. I actually have a scanned copy of a check for that amount, and I plan to obscure my account info, and print a two sided color copy of the check, which I will send with "I support Conservative Candidates" written across the face of the check in the latest RNC fundraising return envelope. I'm becoming convinced that the people opening those envelopes at the RNC throw away everything but the check itself. I hope by putting my message on an actual “check,” someone might actually see the message.

This is one district, the only Congressional race this November. Owens will probably be a problem “blue dog” to cause some problems for Pelosi. Scozzafava will definitely oppose everything I value, even as she claims to be a Republican. And, my research indicates that Hoffman is closest to the representative they elected by 65% last November, a reasonably conservative Republican. He is electable and can win this district. In a fair fight, with a national party behind him, he should be a slam dunk. So I don’t believe I’m doing any harm with my donations.

Donating to Hoffman gives me something I can send to the RNC and RCCC to show my position. There is some value in that.

annalex wrote:
It is, of course, true that it is hard for a conservative to win in a left-leaning district.
This is a right leaning district. See above in this post, and my other posts in this thread. This district elected a conservative Representative by 65% last year, while rejecting McCain.
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cc2k:
Please support Doug Hoffman for Congress.

Please, spread the word about this important race in New York’s 23rd congressional district.

122 posted on 10/19/2009 4:41:58 PM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to Doug Hoffman, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: annalex

this is what the left does.

get two people and have them run as a R and a D.

Either way the left wins. There is no way that this woman can even say she is a R with what she stands for.


123 posted on 10/19/2009 4:45:40 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: east1234

are there any conservatives left up north now?

I have met R’s up north but conservatives ,..............Nope.

All I ever hear is how they support homo’s, abortion or even more Govt.
Why on earth do these people say they are republican?


124 posted on 10/19/2009 4:47:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: cc2k

Post back here with the majority/plurality info. I will be glad to contribute to the Hoffman campaign.


125 posted on 10/19/2009 4:50:05 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: PeteB570

what we have to do is to stop independents from voting in our primaries and then we will stop getting RINO’s.

Look at Mccain, he got moving when he got to NH and where others besides republicans can vote/

It’s got to stop


126 posted on 10/19/2009 4:50:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
Look at Mccain, he got moving when he got to NH and where others besides republicans can vote/

Bingo...Democrats crossing into the GOP primary revived McCain's moribund campaign...they wanted the weakest possible candidate to go up against the eventual Democrat nominee.

127 posted on 10/19/2009 4:53:45 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

sad state of affairs isn’t it

our primaries should be for R’s and that is it.


128 posted on 10/19/2009 5:02:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: gwilhelm56; All

GOP=Gradual Obama Progressives!?


129 posted on 10/19/2009 5:03:50 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Homer1

2 of the 3 candidates running are dems so they have a good chance.

Dede Scuzzobama should drop out instead of taking Republican votes from Hoffman. Of course she’ll also get rat votes ala Arnold Schwarzenegger.


130 posted on 10/19/2009 5:08:50 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: dangus

Ping and double ping. I think these people who continue to insist that voting for any Pubbie—RINO, outright socialist or whatever—is betten than having a demrat in the office are delusional.

Voting for a RINO is voting for a demrat by another name.

And the fact that this Scottafava woman is running as Pubbie proves my point. NJ Pubbies are just the same as NY Pubbies. Not a conservative in the lot.


131 posted on 10/19/2009 5:08:53 PM PDT by dools007
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To: Gondring

Boy that would have been embarrassing for the NY ‘GOP’.


132 posted on 10/19/2009 5:10:18 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: GeronL; Gondring

If every state had fusion it would be a good RINO deterrent.


134 posted on 10/19/2009 5:11:36 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: east1234

The Republican that just left the seat to serve obama wasn’t great but compared to Dede he’s Jim DeMint.

A pro-partial birth abortion, pro gay marriage, pro-card check ultra RINO is not “necessary” to win an evenly divided (Bush narrow win in 2004, Obama narrow win in 2008) and historically Republican district. Try to have some idea of the facts. ;)


135 posted on 10/19/2009 5:19:22 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: fso301
yep this is the problem. we need conservatives on the republican ticket, not on a 3rd party. This just hands the victory to liberals.
136 posted on 10/19/2009 5:29:38 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: fso301

Where besides NY is there a third party contest at this time? Wondering because this is a State event rather than a National event such as was Perot.

There is a difference. I’d alert caution as well were this a National Election event, and the numbers were dubious for the third party candidate(s).


137 posted on 10/19/2009 5:31:37 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The states set the primary dates not the party.
138 posted on 10/19/2009 5:33:11 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: imjimbo

Your delusion is that Scuzzy is a conservative. This isn’t Bush the Republican vs. Perot the independent; this is Hillary the “Republican” vs. Reagan the conservative.


139 posted on 10/19/2009 5:36:56 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: PeteB570
I’m in NC. Obama won NC by less than 25,000 votes. Barr got 25,000 votes in the general election.

Yeah, but I'm willing to bet that Dem voter fraud was at the very least greater than Hussein's 25K margin. If I am correct, the blame doesn't rest with Barr. It rests with the spineless Republicans that have refused to go to war over all of the Dem and ACORN voting related fraud. They capitulated (couldn't take being called racists) several election cycles ago. Now we are here. With fairly dim prospects for any improvement.

140 posted on 10/19/2009 5:57:18 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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