Posted on 10/19/2009 1:37:18 PM PDT by cc2k
The special election to fill New York's vacant 23rd congressional seat is perhaps the earliest test of the GOP's chances to reclaim the House in 2010. Yet the GOP candidate, Dede Scozzafava, has struggled to line up Republican support, and has taken a pummeling from conservative groups that assert she's liberal. The Club for Growth and Eagle Forum, among others, support her opponent, Doug Hoffman, who's running on the Conservative Party ticket.
Add North Texas' Dick Armey to the list of conservative stars backing Hoffman. The former House Majority Leader has confirmed to the Hoffman campaign that he'll spend Thursday with them, said Rob Ryan, a Hoffman spokesman. "He is with us almost all day Thursday," Ryan told me. "There will be a bunch of different events." Armey's endorsement of Hoffman is personal and wasn't offered on behalf of FreedomWorks, the conservative foundation he chairs.
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Oohhh....because there is much difference between Dede and Obama? Here’s an idea. Tell the GOP not to pick candidates at odds with every traditional platform the GOP ever stood for if they want to win.
This is a great opportunity to see who is friend or foe. It is the litmus test we need to decide who is a party-over-principle RINO slime ball and who is a real conservative.
Take names. They are finally showing their true colors.
Time to tag and bag some RINOs!
My feeling is you have to take it on a case by case basis. First you try to get a conservative nominated in the primary. Third party candidates will only give a win to the Dems.
Subsequent posts would seem to indicate that you're wrong... but even if you were right, so be it. Let the Demonrats have it. Don't confuse the party distinction by running Dems with an 'R' next to their names.
They have primaries in NY for normal elections.
Fu-fu2 wrote:
You don’t have primaries in NY?
This race is a special election to fill a seat that became vacant when John McHugh was nominated and confirmed as the new Secretary of the Army. For special elections to fill a vacancy, the whole process is run on a compressed schedule. No primaries, and a quickly called special election. I think the final decision to hold this election for this seat was made in September, after McHugh was confirmed. The parties knew since June when he was nominated that there was a possibility of this special election, but it wasn’t finalized until the seat opened up when McHugh was confirmed.
In a special election like this, parties pick their candidates in New York. In other states, candidates announce and the ballot access is much more open (fewer signatures needed on the petition). When I lived in Georgia, it was handled this way. The “special elections” were non-partisan, with just names on the ballot. These types of elections are kind of “emergency situations.”
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Please support Doug Hoffman for Congress. Please, spread the word about this important race in New York’s 23rd congressional district. |
If only it were that simple.
THERE WAS NO PRIMARY HERE!
Yes I’m screaming but anyone commenting on this thread should at least know that much.
This is a special election and according to their rules the committee chairmen with imput from the national committee picked the candidate.
Yes, I know a lot of folks buy off on this.
Look, do you think the open primaries in the early primary states served us well in 2008? We had crossover democrats electing our nominee. By the time some decent primaries rolled around McCain was already the guy.
The Republican party officials set the rules. They know what they are doing. They choreograph these elections just so.
They pour tons of money in for their guy. Your guy gets a paltry sum from well meaning supporters, and lives to lick his wounds after the election.
Haven’t you seen this play out over and over and over again?
I sure have.
Exactly. You pacifists have been telling us for years that a third party won’t work . . . but I would rather vote Conservative and lose, than vote for some Republican in Name Only . . . and STILL lose!
Does this election require a majority or a plurality?
In the case of no majority, I assume there is a run-off among the top two finishers?
If that last is the case, I might contribute to the Conservative.
It is, of course, true that it is hard for a conservative to win in a left-leaning district.
Still, two things are also true: We don’t know who will turn up and vote if there had been a real conservative in the race. The notion that a district is too liberal to be won is a self-fulfilling expectation.
Second, a conservative who ends up losing still helps the conservative cause by educating the electorate (and not only in his district) and by pulling the entire GOP to the right. Remember that a RINO who wins in, say, NYC, doesn’t just provide a vote that might be useful from time to time. She also has input on the national party platform and the media props her up as a good republican. All that fosters a left-leaning mentality in the GOP, infects others, and does nothing but harm. If NYC is so damn liberal, let them elect their liberal democrats and stop the kabuki dance that damages the entire conservative movement for the sake of one house vote that cannot be counted on anyway.
That the likes of Olympia Snowe pollute the GOP is the fault of the GOP apparatchiks, with their big tent foolishness.
It is a special election. The local GOP annointed this woman. I’m in Texas but I read a lot.
“Exactly. You pacifists have been telling us for years that a third party won’t work . . . but I would rather vote Conservative and lose, than vote for some Republican in Name Only . . . and STILL lose!”
The Dems love your attitude. People need to get involved in the primary process first. If that fails, then give your “make a statement” vote to a third party candidate.
“Does this election require a majority or a plurality?
In the case of no majority, I assume there is a run-off among the top two finishers?
If that last is the case, I might contribute to the Conservative.”
Ditto
Please explain how handing over a bunch of cash is not “support” for a candidate? Please explain how an endorsement is not “support” for a candidate.
The RNC has the opportunity not to support a candidate that the county chiefs choose. But they chose to support the liberal.
Running left wing Republicans got us Obama in the first place
We don’t need any more Olympia Snowe clones.
I agree. But if the conservative candidate fails to win the primary or there is no primary for whatever reason, then the best recourse is to try to find a conservative third-party candidate in order to deny the RINO a win. Until the party power managers are shown who’s boss and that we won’t tolerate RINOs anymore, they’ll keep foisting RINOs on us.
By splitting the conservative vote-! Remember Ross Perot-!? That was how Clintoon got in.
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