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Michael Moore Tries to Out-Church Sean Hannity
US News & World Report ^ | October 07, 2009 | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 10/08/2009 1:52:51 PM PDT by presidio9

Promoting Capitalism: A Love Story, Michael Moore is beating the drum of his Catholicism in a way that he hasn't previously. Check out this clip from Moore's appearance last night on Sean Hannity's TV show.

When Hannity suggests possible political labels for Moore, the filmmaker responds: "Christian." Then Moore quizzes the Fox News host, a fellow Catholic, on the last time he's been to mass. Trying to out-church him, Moore implies that Hannity is fibbing about having attended mass last weekend.

It's no accident that Moore's new openness about his religious faith is coming now, after the Democratic Party has spent five years urging its members to speak up about their faith to combat the conventional wisdom that the GOP is more religion-friendly. That campaign has spilled over to the broader liberal movement in a big way. But if Moore, Barack Obama, and Nancy Pelosi are all spokespeople for the left's faith-friendliness, where's the national leader of the left's fast-growing secular wing?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: capitalism; catholicism; cinoism; hannity; michaelmoore; moore; religiousleft
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To: awake-n-angry

Actually, that isn’t in Scripture. Rather, the verse says to judge with the same measure by which one would be judged - i.e. don’t be a hypocrite. Quite a different thing altogether, I’d say, from the way the verse is usually misquoted and very misunderstood!


61 posted on 10/08/2009 6:44:20 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: liberty or death; mountn man; Campion; skeeter; presidio9; Anitius Severinus Boethius; All

Sorry if I did not make this clear on the prior post, but I was responding directly to JHBowden. I included you folks because you’d responded to him as well.


62 posted on 10/08/2009 6:53:48 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: JHBowden

What you “know” about Christianity could fill an adult diaper.


63 posted on 10/08/2009 8:52:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: BuddhaBrown

BuddhaBrown—

You make a convincing case. I’ll need to rethink the passage in light of the other parables.


64 posted on 10/08/2009 11:26:42 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: stockpirate
Moore actually made Hannity his stooge for the whole interview. Sometimes Sean is in over his little head and doesn’t know the right answers.

Wouldn't surprise me. Sean Hannity couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper bag. Hell of a nice guy, but that's about it...

65 posted on 10/08/2009 11:42:55 PM PDT by csense
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To: JHBowden
You (like all the "Christian Socialists") are missing the point of Matthew 19. You read the part about "harder for a wealthy man" and take away that only the poor get into heaven. You need to finish the passage. No one, repeat NO ONE, gets into heaven without Him. This passage has almost nothing to do with material possesions. It is about letting ANYTHING keep you out of heaven by coming between Him and you. Of course Socialists like to quote that first bit.

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66 posted on 10/09/2009 1:59:07 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: JHBowden
"I’ll need to rethink the passage..."

You certainly demonstrate an uncommon level of maturity to make such a (virtually) public admission. Armed with that attitude, a measure of faith and a prayer for understanding I'm sure you will be blessed with both knowledge and wisdom as you study His word.

As I alluded earlier, Christ spoke in parables for a number of reasons. Parables are simple stories which describe deep meaning in a commonly relatable fashion. But at the same time they are hidden treasures not meant to be understood by those who would not hear. Christ explains this to His disciples in Matthew 13.

I hope I was not too pointed or sarcastic in my earlier post. I know I can be at times.

Good luck and God bless.

67 posted on 10/09/2009 2:19:38 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: madison10

Could be. I know the RC has been making great strides to correct what it observed to be a total lack of orthodox training for not just students, but clergy, as well. It’s become obvious that what all of us took for granted simply did not occur.


68 posted on 10/09/2009 7:16:23 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: JHBowden
There was a gate in Jerusalem known as the eye of the needle. Most rich men loaded there posessions on the sides of their camels. In order for a camel to pass through, you had to take all of your possesions off.

The parable is saying that for a rich man to enter Heaven, he will not be able to bring his posessions with him. It doesnt mean it is impossible for rich men to get into Heaven.

69 posted on 10/09/2009 7:27:06 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: BuddhaBrown
This is the reason Libertarians are not really helpful, they Ignore Moral behavior in the bedroom, not considering how it doesn't seem to stay there. In stead it shows up in schools, Churches, and high government positions.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798 John Adams


70 posted on 10/09/2009 9:37:53 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: presidio9

Moore cannot be taken seriously. His patronizing righteousness is simply overbearing.

He pretty good, however, at disarming opponents with falsehoods and nonsense.


71 posted on 10/09/2009 6:45:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Jesus said "it was harder for a rich man to get into heaven than it is for a camel to pass thru a needle's eye. With God NOTHING is impossible."

My interpretation of this is that the RICH have SO many MORE things to distract them from God and many, many more temptations than a poor person does. Yes, the rich can get to heaven.

72 posted on 10/09/2009 6:53:18 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: madison10

That was CCD classes that lasted about one hour or two a week. VERY superficial....nothing like being in a Catholic School where it permeates ALL the classes. I know because I did both.....Catholic School, going to Mass every day, taught by a nun was WAY better....you really learn Catholicism....as long as your parents carry thru with all that Catholicism requires.


73 posted on 10/09/2009 7:01:25 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: presidio9
Moore must have gotten a PR person to help him improve is image. He's talking about being a Christian, and looks like he took a bath and shaved.
74 posted on 10/09/2009 9:35:00 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Campion
Christianity is what made the West in the first place.

Yes. Christianity drove our forefathers out of Europe.

75 posted on 10/09/2009 9:38:58 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
"Yes. Christianity drove our forefathers out of Europe."

Actually, it was government's meddling with Christianity that drove them out - to enjoy freedom of religion! And we should all feel VERY fortunate that it turned out that way. God's plan is often forwarded in ways not understood by contemporary man. Where would Christianity be today if they'd not sought freedom from the king's version of Christianity? Freedom is sweet, but still hard to swallow for many. As demonstrated by several here who wish to dampen it for the 'common good' they feel they are qualified to determine is worth such forfeiture.

76 posted on 10/10/2009 6:37:51 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Night Hides Not

Well said...Sean only knows how to regurgitate talking points. Has he ever had an original thought?

Well the guy is not very intelligent. Did he even attend college? I don’t think he did...as much as people bash college on here, it really does give you the tools to think which is where he lacks at times.


77 posted on 10/26/2009 5:44:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
I don’t think he did...as much as people bash college on here, it really does give you the tools to think which is where he lacks at times.

College teaches you a lot. Including making you realize that you really don't know that much.

78 posted on 10/26/2009 5:46:57 AM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: DManA

And that, indeed, is a fragment, because the complete verse/context says “by the same measure”.

It means “don’t judge others for failing the standards you’re not willing to uphold yourself”.


79 posted on 10/26/2009 5:47:14 AM PDT by MrB (The only difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ColdWater

True...and I will agree that some of what is taught is not necessary, but it does give you an overall view of many subjects which is good. The only degree I hated getting was my MBA...a complete waste of time IMHO.


80 posted on 10/26/2009 5:49:48 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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