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Father of one of the Belleville bullies is a minister
Fox affiliate in St. Louis ^ | 9/23/2009 | soccermom

Posted on 09/23/2009 7:02:27 AM PDT by soccermom

Like many mothers from this area, I was astonished and sickened to see the brutal beating on the Belleville school bus that made headlines all over the country. I have no idea if this was racially motivated as I wasn't there and I don't want to fuel that speculation. If someone is beating the snot out of you, it doesn't matter what the motivation is -- it is reprehensible no matter what. But, like many people, I wondered what on earth were the lives and backgrounds of the bullies like that they would behave like this?

Monday night, I was stunned when news footage of this story showed the father of one of the bullies in a Roman collar and he was bemoaning the fact that this video had ruined THEIR lives! Now, I am not one to believe that the sins of the child are necessarily a reflection of the parent. I understand that lots of well-meaning parents are exasperated by wild children. But I cannot believe that a MINISTER would be whining about how this had hurt his family instead of expressing concern for the life his child ruined!

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-belleville-busfight-students-expelled-092109,0,1189089.story


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Please note, this is not the original version I saw on TV.
1 posted on 09/23/2009 7:02:27 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom

Sometimes preacher’s kids are the worst. Our PK regularly hits and belittles our son. We’re having to “deal” with that this week in fact.


2 posted on 09/23/2009 7:06:07 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: soccermom

Rev. Wright?


3 posted on 09/23/2009 7:06:29 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: soccermom

Go figure.


4 posted on 09/23/2009 7:06:41 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: soccermom

Rev. Wright’s kid?


5 posted on 09/23/2009 7:06:50 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: soccermom
Can you say,Rev Wright and his opinion of American whites..To bad I tried all those years to let my children know they were no better than anyone no matter what race..Now look who is teaching their children hate..God help this minister and his family to get with God and ask for forgiveness..
6 posted on 09/23/2009 7:07:29 AM PDT by PLD
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To: soccermom
Ministers kids live in glass houses and are expected to behave well. Extra communication is required for them, just as Politicians kids, so they don't blow up under the scrutiny and snotty attacks folks do.

If their Kid is bullying one of your kids, ask him what advice they would give regarding your kid being bullied. After they give the advice, THEN TELL THEM IT WAS THIER KID.

Believe me, they will get the message and deal with the kid.

PS: The government schools are lousy at dealing with bullies.

7 posted on 09/23/2009 7:10:26 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: kimmie7

Three words: John Wesley Hardin.


8 posted on 09/23/2009 7:10:36 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: kimmie7

To be fair to the minister, the news clearly only showed a brief clip. He may very well have expressed concern and remorse for the victim, but the report only showed the clip relevant to the subject of whether or not the video should have been released.


9 posted on 09/23/2009 7:11:10 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: soccermom

Fights at school were so much different in my day.


10 posted on 09/23/2009 7:11:27 AM PDT by envisio (Wanna understand all the problems with this country? Google "Kanye West".)
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To: Clemenza

Good point.


11 posted on 09/23/2009 7:11:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not a princess, this ain't a fairy tale.)
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To: soccermom
On a broader topic:

I think Education curriculum have gotten worse over the past decades.
I think the quality of teachers, in many cases, has declined over the past decades.
I think the government schools are an abomination.

But the bottomline is that today's parenting makes teaching many of these kids virtually impossible. I saw the video from the bus. Indefensible. In-De-Fensible. To have a parent (no matter the occupation) stand up and whine that one of the bullies is now suffering really tells you why the public schools are a cesspit.

12 posted on 09/23/2009 7:12:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: kimmie7

Growing up in a comfortable suburb in the 1960s & 70s, the worst smart ass on the block was the preacher’s kid next door. Fortunately, despite a disadvantage in size, I thrashed him the one time we came to blows.


13 posted on 09/23/2009 7:14:38 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Clemenza

Not ringing a bell...googling...

hmmm. Didn’t know that! Thanks!


14 posted on 09/23/2009 7:15:09 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: soccermom

So has the white kids family pressed charges? Has anyone been arrested? The MSM news blackout is quite impressive.


15 posted on 09/23/2009 7:17:09 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Rockingham
I thrashed him the one time we came to blows.

People don't use the term "thrashed" very much anymore, and I miss it. They say I punched the guy, or beat him up, or socked him- but never "thrashed. I applaud you. Now, if you had just said, "I thrashed the bounder", it would have been perfect.
16 posted on 09/23/2009 7:27:37 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: soccermom
To suspend the children, and keep suspending them when they do wrong does not help them do any better," she said.

I agree, kids who behave like the perpetrators on that bus should be removed from society for a few years. It's obvious their parents were unable to teach them how to conduct themselves.

17 posted on 09/23/2009 7:28:36 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Oldpuppymax

If I recall, both kids have been arrested and charged. I don’t know what the charges were, though....


18 posted on 09/23/2009 7:28:41 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Oldpuppymax
The MSM news blackout is quite impressive.
Why aren't we surprised?
19 posted on 09/23/2009 7:31:22 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think Education curriculum have gotten worse over the past decades. I think the quality of teachers, in many cases, has declined over the past decades. I think the government schools are an abomination.

All of the above is part of the communist plan to demoralize our nation. Please listen to Yuri Besmenov the former KGB spy who warned us of this:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov

But the bottomline is that today's parenting makes teaching many of these kids virtually impossible.

The values taught in the government schools for several generations now almost guarantee that kids will grow up to ineffectual parents. We are now into our 3 and 4 generation and soon there will be no one alive who remembers how to parent properly.

If we want to turn our nation around we must get the kids out of the government schools and into tution-free and private conservative schools. We must shut down the government schools. Only if we raise up a righteous generation can save this nation.

Finally,...There are schools in this nation that are soooooo HORRIFIC that it would be better for a child never to attend! Illiteracy and innumeracy would be better than having to suffer ( or witness) what happened on this bus.

20 posted on 09/23/2009 7:35:58 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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