Posted on 09/06/2009 5:16:18 PM PDT by pissant
With a scheduled hearing date looming Tuesday, Lucas Smith, the man who tried to sell an alleged Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate on eBay, has filed court papers in a high-profile eligibility case insisting under threat of perjury that the Obama birth certificate in his possession is the genuine article.
Smith filed his affidavit through California attorney Orly Taitz, who has spearheaded several lawsuits challenging Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve as president, as part of a case that includes as plaintiff former presidential candidate Alan Keyes.
Taitz posted on her blog Smith's declaration, which claims he obtained the alleged birth certificate from Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, and insists it's real.
"The true and correct photocopy of the birth certificate obtained is attached to this affidavit as Exhibit A," the declaration reads. "I declare, certify, verify, state and affirm under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing statements of fact and descriptions of circumstances and events are true and correct."
Smith's affidavit, which includes a copy of the certificate, has been filed with Judge David Carter of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. Carter is scheduled to preside over a hearing on the case on Sept. 8.
Taitz told WND she believes the swiftly approaching court date prompted Smith into action:
"He has been in touch with me for quite a while, and he emailed me the document with his signature," Taitz said. "I think he was trying to figure out the most expedient way to bring his message public, and maybe he felt that because I have a hearing coming, that would be the most expedient way."
Taitz hopes the court will order expedited discovery, a ruling that would open
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If you had actually read the WND ariticle, you'd see they are not supportive of the authenticity of the "Smith" document.
Or do you mean the entire "not a natural born citizen" deal?
All I can say is that it's a Constitutional thing, perhaps you wouldn't understand.
Apparently, he has posted video of himself, with the document, with what several FReepers have confirmed as Mombasa in the background.
That document would be one piece of evidence, not the sole evidence one way or another. It need only create sufficient doubt as to the final outcome to trigger "discovery", which would include provision of certified copies of the "birth documents" that the Hawaii Health Statistics department says they have.
Pelosi and Reid were in on the fraud....I understand the order of elected officials for prez...so don’t start going down the line of those to me. IF the election on the dem side was deemed ineligible due to the usurper who was next with the most electoral votes and McRino was ineligible due to birth off base in Panama?
The bribe was not to the issuer of the document. Still, given that Othugo, cousin of Obama, is the Prime Minister, getting the document authenticated could be very problematic.
We will, but getting there may be costly, in blood and treasure.
Oh yea, like those would be credible, given that Odumbo's cousin Othugo is the Prime Authority over there.
"I disagree it weakens his detractors by allowing them to be disregarded as a fringe element aligned with fools who claim Bush took down the towers.
I completely agree with you on that one. Honestly, I'm pretty sure The Dear Leader was born in the US. However, if there's nothing to the stories, then why doesn't he just provide the document? Does the original say something embarrassing like "Father: Unknown?"
Major Cook made his own decisions.
He made them based on incorrect information and bad-faith or at least incompetent legal advice, but they remain his decisions.
Demonstrable proof that any candidate for national office should first be able to pass an IQ test with at least an average score.
Folks, it is my opinion that we will never see a free election held in this country again.
I hope and pray this doesn't happen.
You would completely depopulate Congress and the Executive Branch if you did.
In other words
On January 20 when Obama put his hand in the air the oath was not valid but Bush could not continue as president because that would be the start of a third term. That left Cheny as the only one qualified. Cheny’s term ends only with the valid oath of the new VP.
The way I read this screw-up, Dick Cheny has been our president since the 20th of Jan.
I think 69.5 million people would disagree with you on that.
with Obama not qualified , he in effect did not take the oath.
I think you're wrong on that. I saw them swear Biden in on Inauguration Day.
On January 20 when Obama put his hand in the air the oath was not valid but Bush could not continue as president because that would be the start of a third term. That left Cheny as the only one qualified. Chenys term ends only with the valid oath of the new VP.
But Cheney's term in office ended at noon, minutes before Obama was sworn in. So Cheney was no longer vice-president and therefore could not succeed to anything. If both Obama and Biden are found to be ineligible then the succession identifes the Speaker of the House as next in line.
The way I read this screw-up, Dick Cheny has been our president since the 20th of Jan.
I think you're reading wrong.
“Folks, I rest my case. Would you want your case judged by a fool who thinks convicted and paid felons are credible? I’ve enjoyed Free Republic because we, for the most part, tend not to make sh*t up. For years this has been known as the smart conservative site. Let’s keep it that way!”
You dipstick....you totally missed the point. Judges routinely grant police search warrants based upon the tip from a “paid” informant - many of which are convicted felons or petty criminals. My point was that since this is routine for search warrants in CRIMINAL proceedings, I don’t see that a person who bribed a foreign official to obtain a document is ANY less credible than a paid informant. If the police can do it, then why cannot others?
I made NO value judgements about using paid informants being credible except to say that a person that bribes foreign officials is no less credible.
Should a judge admit this type of evidence on POTUS Obama.......I don’t really know. I just don’t see it as any more “tainted” than that routinely obtained by police in our own country through paid informants.
Personally, I doubt the latest BC is legit. However, I want the case to go forward and for POTUS Obama to be subject to the SAME scrutiny I have repeatedly have been required to undergo to join the military, to be employed, get a SSN, etc. I had to show my original BC. Additionally, although the point in highly contended, I am of the camp that POTUS Obama is not natural born because is father was not a U.S. Citizen. POTUS Obama may be a “native born” or otherwise a citizen by nature of his mother, but he is not “natural born” (in the constitutional sense) because at birth he had divided loyalties because of who his father was - Kenyan. He SHOULD NEVER have been allowed to run or take office, and it is time this plays out in court under the rule of law. The ultimate SCOTUS (if it goes the full way) will define what “natural born” means.
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