Posted on 09/06/2009 5:16:18 PM PDT by pissant
With a scheduled hearing date looming Tuesday, Lucas Smith, the man who tried to sell an alleged Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate on eBay, has filed court papers in a high-profile eligibility case insisting – under threat of perjury – that the Obama birth certificate in his possession is the genuine article.
Smith filed his affidavit through California attorney Orly Taitz, who has spearheaded several lawsuits challenging Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve as president, as part of a case that includes as plaintiff former presidential candidate Alan Keyes.
Taitz posted on her blog Smith's declaration, which claims he obtained the alleged birth certificate from Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, and insists it's real.
"The true and correct photocopy of the birth certificate obtained is attached to this affidavit as Exhibit A," the declaration reads. "I declare, certify, verify, state and affirm under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing statements of fact and descriptions of circumstances and events are true and correct."
Smith's affidavit, which includes a copy of the certificate, has been filed with Judge David Carter of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. Carter is scheduled to preside over a hearing on the case on Sept. 8.
Taitz told WND she believes the swiftly approaching court date prompted Smith into action:
"He has been in touch with me for quite a while, and he emailed me the document with his signature," Taitz said. "I think he was trying to figure out the most expedient way to bring his message public, and maybe he felt that because I have a hearing coming, that would be the most expedient way."
Taitz hopes the court will order expedited discovery, a ruling that would open
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Obama's approval numbers plummeted back when the BC issue was dominate in the press. That was thanks to the brave major who refused to go to Afghanistan under a possibly fraudulent commander-n-chief.
The BC issue and all the other documents he and his friends are hiding show them to be untrustworthy.
Or produce other examples of Kenyan birth certificates from the same period showing the difference. Or affidavits from the Kenyan authorities stating it's a fake. Or have it examined by experts who can attest that it's fraudulent. There are any number of ways that they can blow this document clear out of the water and not involve Obama at all.
“World Nut Daily needs to drop this foolishness. Think about it, there is a reason Cheney and Palin, who by the way can’t stand Obama, are not boarding this crazy train.”
If it’s “foolishness”, why hasn’t your saviour shown anybody his birth certificate? One simple step, and about $10 would clear all of this up, yet he chooses not to. Face it, your African chieftain is not eligible.
There are lot of people who secretly believe, but any of them who are in the public eye and have anything to lose are sensibly staying quiet - Obama has made credible attempts to destroy anybody who opposes him, such as Major Cook who had his life destroyed by Zero’s goons.
How could that happen when McCain and Palin lost the election?
I doubt she even knows what that is.
Sarah Palin lost the election along with McCain, so she isn't in line for anything. IfObama and Biden are found ineligible the say hello to President Nancy Pelosi.
“How could that happen when McCain and Palin lost the election?”
We are in uncharted waters. Who can predict what the SCOTUS and/or the Congress would opine? A case could be made that foreign birth and/or citizenship would make Obama’s election nugatory, and that John McCain was the qualified presidential candidate who received the most electoral votes. But a case could also be made that Obama was certified and sworn in, so would have to be impeached. In either case, it looks like Biden would be a harder one to dislodge. He was qualified and duly elected by the electors.
A case could be made that foreign birth and/or citizenship would make Obama’s election nugatory, and that John McCain was the qualified presidential candidate who received the most electoral votes.
But he didn't receive the most electoral votes. He received 173, less than one-third of the total votes cast. The 12th Amendment alone precludes him from being the winner.
But a case could also be made that Obama was certified and sworn in, so would have to be impeached. In either case, it looks like Biden would be a harder one to dislodge. He was qualified and duly elected by the electors.
Per Article II, the 20th Amendment, the 25th Amendment, and federal law.
A REAL constitutional crisis? Yum!
Assuming that the Kenyan was never qualified, who does that leave? Which qualified candidate received the most electoral votes? I know it was less than 270, but there has never been a precedent for an election where the “winner” was disqualified. Note to self: Buy Orville Redenbacher stock.
None. The Constitution requires a majority of the votes cast, which McCain came far short of. The Constitution and federal law contains the solution - if Obama is found ineligible then Biden is president. If Biden is found ineligible as well the Pelosi is president. Nothing can possibly be interpreted as allowing the loser to become president.
"Convicted and paid felons" are often credible. Indeed, their testimony has ofen been vital to convict organized crime figures. Just look at John Gotti, who was sent away by the testimony of "Sammy the Bull" Gravano.
Unless other examples of Kenyan birth certificates from the same period showing the difference can themselves be authenticated, your point is correct. Affidavits from other countries must also be authenticated. I am not sure, but notary seals may not be recognized as authentic unless an evidentiary hearing can be held with the notary to allow both sides a chance to examine the notary.
I am not even sure obtaining a document through the payment of a bribed can ever be considered an official document, even if it was examined by experts and declared authentic.
Come to think of it, that may well be what’s afoot here. If a court of competent jurisdiction ever had a Kenyan birth certificate of Barack Obama Jr., authenticated, even if it was eventually thrown out on other legal grounds, Obama would be toast. However, I can’t see a court ever doing such a hair-brained thing when even if authenticated, it could never be entered into evidence.
ex animo
davidfarrar
You are wrong. Biden is part of the disqualified ticket. with Oboma ineligible so is Biden. This takes us back to January 20 09, the moment before the oath. with Oboma, Biden and Bush (can not serve third term) ineligible that leaves Cheny.
No one else in the line of succession can be considered because Cheny is standing there alive and well.
McCain can not be considered either because he lost the election.
In conclusion, why do you think Dick Cheny has not gone fishing? In order to take the oath?
He already has.
Amendment XX. Section. 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;
If he's not a natural born citizen, The Messaih has not qualified.
But note the VP only *acts* as President, until a President can be qualified. That assumes of course that someone doesn't sue Biden for being a party to fraud, or worse.
You are quoting World Net Daily, not the affidavit itself. I read the affidavit to say that he had to bribe the military officer to look the other way, *while* he obtained the document, not that he bribed the official supplying it.
Not if the genetically engineered H1N1 (swine/bird/human) flu threatens to reach pandemic proportions (Could this be the start?). If that happens o-bomb-a-nation will declare martial law and we will be stuck with baraq O' bamah until the second coming.
Of course he and his legion of "czars" won't necessarily need a pandemic to declare martial law. Another national disaster like Katrina or Ike should do the trick.
Folks, it is my opinion that we will never see a free election held in this country again.
Can someone please tell me of ONE THING surrounding baraq O' bamah' that is not controversial?
That's true, but it may not be the test. Born under US Jurisdiction may be the test, along with parents being US Citizens. It's likely McCain was not born in Colon, but rather on the Coco Solo naval base. His mother says that is the case, a local newspaper article published at the time says that, and a reporter who was shown his BC reports the same. Plus the reporter checked out the doctor's name, and that doctor was assigned to Coco Solo at the time of McCain's birth.
The Law of Nations, not sure which translation, says:
"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society can not exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as a matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. THE COUNTRY OF THE FATHERS IS THEREFORE THAT OF THE CHILDREN."
So it depends on the definition of "in the country", and But then that last part, while damming Obama, gives support to McCain.
Not that McCain's eligibility or lack thereof matters at this point.
Why?
No one else in the line of succession can be considered because Cheny is standing there alive and well.
Except that Cheney's term had run out. He was no longer in the line of succession. If Obama and Biden are both disqualified that leaves it to the Speaker of the House.
In conclusion, why do you think Dick Cheny has not gone fishing? In order to take the oath?
No.
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