Posted on 09/01/2009 7:49:56 PM PDT by Man50D
A "pandemic response bill" currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.
If citizens refuse to comply with isolation or quarantine orders in the event of a health emergency, they may be imprisoned for up to 30 days and fined $1,000 per day that the violation continues.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
They're going to be sued over this one. And the SC will be on our side.
What is Virginia and Kentucky?
WE HAVE A WINNER!
I'm even beginning to worry about the SC. Are they following the law or making it up as they go along. *sigh* These are scary times we live in.
Trust me - allowing police to walk into a private home without a warrent on a grand scale like this is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Obama and thugs might think this is their private totalitarian state, but it’s NOT.
We have enough food for a little over 30 days. More, if we get really basic.
To break it to everyone, this stuff didn’t start with influenza, but for other, and really nasty, reasons.
Back in the “good ol’ days”, which was about through the end of World War II, the US was plagued with epidemics. This caused tremendous national anger, and there were many instances of almost war footing to subdue the damned things. Yellow fever, the poxes including smallpox, tuberculosis, polio, typhus, typhoid fever, whooping cough, etc.
Doctors who detected a serious communicable disease were instantly little dictators, because they had to be. Quarantines, arrest if necessary, and all the other things found in these bills were just expected of them.
Today, the wonder of antibiotics are losing their strength. The shield that kept America epidemic free for 60 years is no longer working as well as it used to.
This means some truly horrible diseases are again menacing our nation. Already, if someone is detected as having Extremely Drug Resistant Tuberculosis, they *will* be put behind bars in an isolation war. No lawyer, habeus corpus, or any other civil right that might endanger the public, is permitted.
And suddenly, we are faced with what could be the deadliest epidemic in human history. Not Swine flu, but Avian flu H5N1.
No matter how harsh this Massachusetts law may appear, it is nothing compared to this disease. There will be a public panic, the likes of which has never been seen before. Ironically, much of what is in the proposed law won’t do much of anything to slow down the disease, but put that down to helplessness, not tyranny.
Cities and towns will erect their own barricades against outsiders. The military may have to respond, but not as police, but just as spare hands, to help keep people fed, to drive trucks, whatever is needed.
Time to give the household weapon a good cleaning.
The backhoes for digging the mass graves.
Why did our dear leader leave open the border with Mexico when the Mexican flu was announced back in June?
Then you will become a target of the warrentless search, you are not the norm according to statistical analysis.
Think about, if 95% of your area are under prepared...
They won’t need a warrant to come into your home for an “inspection.” I’ve played this scenario out in my head a number of times. The knock on the door with the guys in white suits who just came from the neighbor’s home. They were sick. No one in my home is sick, but they didn’t doff and don new gear to do the home search. They walk in with contaminated gear and contaminate my home.
or
I refuse to let them in, until they redress out for the search of my uncontaminated home.
Either way I end up being forced to leave with them, get sick in their facility, and maybe even die.
I can only speak for Texas, but in Texas, you have a right to habeas corpus, even in quarantine. Of course, if you do have full blown tuberculosis, and you have refused medication, and you have further continued to go out in public, hacking and coughing and spreading tuberculosis bacilli all over everyone you meet, the Texas Courts will find that your detention is legal, and leave you in the State TB Hospital, until your condition has improved.
Good points as well.....this administration is insane. .
Country is spoiled. Most people have no clue. If we ever had a pandemic with even a 1918 fatality rate of 3% or so, all this civil liberties stuff would go out the window. Three percent would mean the average HS would see 18 dead kids. Anyone who squawked about being inoculated or quarantined. wouldn't have to worry about the government. They would have to worry about some parent taking them out.
Now that you mention it, didn't the hildabeest have her roots in Illinois, pre-Arkansas?
I didn’t want to put it so bluntly, but that is to a great extent correct.
Ironically, you *want* the military to do that, for several reasons. The first is that they will try to do it right. And that means a lot of things. Not just that the hole is deep enough, but that some sense of order is used, which means keeping some degree of individuality to the burials, by using GPS.
They will do other things to keep wild animals and dogs away. The mass burial site will be clearly marked. Decontamination facilities will be nearby. Pesticides will be used. etc.
(In 2007)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17915965/
“Texas has placed 17 tuberculosis patients into an involuntary quarantine facility this year in San Antonio.”
Ironically, denial of habeus corpus in these cases is done by the court itself, precluding further demands by those under quarantine. This is different from denying habeus corpus to other groups (such as minors), which is done prior to their ever having been to court.
I talked with an old man who as a child lived through the Spanish flu. His parents confined him to their home for about a year and a half.
However, their house was on the route from the town to the cemetery, so looking out his second story window, he could see the coffins go by. The small coffins really got to him, as he would wonder which of his peers had died.
After the epidemic was over, it became a forbidden subject for discussion, and the people who died were not mentioned, because everyone knew that everyone else had suffered. And only since the 1970s has there been an effort to recover much of the old data about the disease.
I’m not enthusiastic about these laws but I do now from studying up about pandemic for a while, that even a death rate like the 1918 pandemic will cause havoc here and elsewhere, modern medical stuff notwithstanding.
The NYC Mortuary Association had a meeting last week in which they were told the CDC predicts a 2.2 t 3.5 CFR with 52,000 to 86,000 deaths. For this pandemic. In NYC alone. I may have gotten one of the CFR slightly off, but that’s pretty much what I read.
People who think this is a hoax or something created by 0bama’s adminstration or the CDC don’t know what the hell they are talking about.
I am not very polite about this because I’m tired of people saying crap when they know nothing. Even in CA some head medical dude warned of infrastructure disruption due to absenteeism and supply chain disruption.
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