Russian Professor: Collapse Of America Could Begin In Two Months

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIDP6U-JzSs ^

[Straight Vermonter]

Good post.

[SuziQ]

Is this the same guy who’s been saying this same thing for the past 10 years?

[jpsb]

"We won’t stand around in bread lines crying about the lack of essentials."

Exactly correct, being a little worried I had 50 yards of top soil dumped on my Ike ruined backyard. Now I have a nice (I hope) 20x60 victory garden. Seedling growing inside for planting this mid Sept. A 20x60 garden will feed a lot more then just me! I don't think a collapse is coming but just in case .....

[ClearCase_guy]

American’s are not the same sort of downtrodden and abused people of the USSR after 50 years of communist rule.

I think that's true, so there is reason to hope for our future. But on the other hand, if the Left believes that the time is ripe, and if they push for a collapse, that will set off very ugly events. The outcome may not be what the Left wants, and the USA may be preserved in the end -- but any coordinated effort to end the US will create an ugly time for us all.

And, yeah, I really Obama will make the attempt.

[Verginius Rufus]

At least southern California is already loaded with Spanish placenames so they can keep most of them--Los Angeles, Palos Verdes, Calabasas, Santa Ana, San Marcos, Encinitas, Chula Vista, Escondido, San Bernardino, etc.

But they'll need to change "Mission Viejo" (mision is a feminine noun).

[Gator113]

The Russian’s are late.

Our “collapse” began on January 20, 2009. It may turn around, but only with the efforts of American patriots.

[Danae]

I think he already IS making the attempt.

One thing is for certain, the 2010 elections are going to be UGLY for Democrats.

[ClearCase_guy]

Yeah, I really didn’t use the right verb tense. It’s happening now.

[Gator113]

Ты умрешь тысяч смертей пытается это сделать.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Yep, exactly. The city folks and the project dwellers. The independen, go-getters with some pride and ability will leave the cities and the projects. And if they’re willing to work and share the rewards of that work, I’ll open my home to them. The rest of them will turn to crime to get what they need. At that time, we’ll see who’s who.

[NonLinear]

Yikes!

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Already happened last November.

[jwalsh07]

We urinated on the Soviet Unions demise and we'll urinate on Russias demise as well.

Just teach your children well.

[newbie 10-21-00]

RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!!

WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lazamataz]

Вы желаете, американский коммунист! Мы в России, мы любим капитализм, и нас война со всеми коммунистами! Смех смеха смеется смех смеха!

[outpostinmass2]

Your problem will be when 10 million people come trampling over your town.

It won’t be pretty.

[Gator113]

Лот смеха.

[throwback]

Oh, that’s really interesting. A few of those are surprises. I suppose the Oklahoma number is because of the Cherokee. Had no idea New Mexico and Arizona had so many. Wonder if those were mostly indigenous or moved there.

[tired1]

You can have them, good luck!

[GonzoGOP]

Your problem will be when 10 million people come trampling over your town.
It won’t be pretty.

Civil wars never are. The first civil war took four years of active fighting. Its completely destroyed the south, devastated its population and culture, and left its economy in ruins. It took the US almost 40 years (1898) for the political wounds to recover from the first one. And the southern economy didn't catch back up to the north until after WWII, and then only because of the wholesale industrialization required to fight the war.

That is what we are looking at if this comes apart, except it won't be just the southeastern part of the country, but every state in the union, except perhaps Alaska and Hawaii that could just sit it out. Winning this at the ballot box is far preferable to any sort of uprising. My point was just that if it happens the cities will have the numbers, but the countryside has the resources.

The problem hasn't come up until now because the cities had surplus wealth, created by their control of manufacturing and trade, and could buy the resources the needed. For years taxes have flowed from the high density stats to the low population density states. That was not accidental, it was a payment to keep the raw materials necessary for the big urban centers flowing freely. Pork lubricates the wheels of commerce most effectively.

But now the big urban centers, and high population density states are broke. Manufacturing has either moved out of the cities, or out of the country entirely. The taxes on the stock exchanges and traders are based on their ability to turn a profit, and recently they haven't been. New York, California, Illinois and Michigan can't afford to send anything to anyone, in fact they are all looking for bailouts. This is even more pronounced when you break it down to the county level. Also the country side is broke too, and will want to extract more money for their resources at the exact time the urban areas are less able to pay. The cities will be forced to either grant concessions to the countryside, essentially allowing the countryside to determine what services and benefits the cities can provide, or try to take those resources them by force. Note that this is exactly what is happening now, but politically. Conservatives, suburban and rural, want to dictate to the cities how much they can spend. Liberals, urban areas, want to confiscate resources and give them to their people in order to stay in power.

Iraq, USSR, Yugoslavia and the US Civil war were geographic. Two distinct and separate parts of the country, one, or more, fighting to break away. But any uprising her will be more like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cuba, China or any of the Central American uprisings. The cities are easy to control. The central government establishes control of the cities and tries to move into the countryside. The rebels go to ground and attack the infrastructure. Eventually the economy completely collapses, destroying the central governments power base. Finally, the are starved into submission and overrun one by one.