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Are We at the Center of the Universe? (new solution to Einstein's field equations may put us there!)
CEH ^ | August 23, 2009

Posted on 08/24/2009 9:23:30 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

August 23, 2009 — An alternative cosmology that doesn’t require dark energy may have the effect of putting the Milky Way near the center of the universe. That’s not the only interpretation, but it is being considered....

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To: GodGunsGuts
We don't have to be literally in the center of the Universe to be in the apple of God's eye.

If our Galaxy is indeed central then that's great. But it's not necessary. God just doesn't seem to do the obvious thing, go the obvious route: a great artist doesn't do platitudes.

21 posted on 08/24/2009 9:39:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: GodGunsGuts
An alternative cosmology that doesn’t require dark energy may have the effect of putting the Milky Way near the center of the universe.

I suppose the focus on the Milky Way is to get around the problem of the Earth not even being in the center of our own galaxy, but the problem the Creationists don't account for is the Milky Way isn't even the center of the local cluster.

22 posted on 08/24/2009 9:41:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So you lunatics are returning gradually to geocentrism? You should have burned Galileo when you had the chance.


23 posted on 08/24/2009 9:41:43 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Not at all. The crap that spews from the creation rationalization sites is strictly for entertainment only. Just stay out of science classes.

Hey—how do Catholics feel about this?


24 posted on 08/24/2009 9:41:47 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: MrB

>>>> Everything about our solar system and our place in the galaxy/universe is to provide a habitable observation platform for humans. <<<<<

Ha. You wouldn’t be quite so sanguine if your were the ruler of the Phasian Klingovians living on Alpha Centauri!


25 posted on 08/24/2009 9:42:58 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Buck W.
Same as usual, the Catholics think it is cretarded.
26 posted on 08/24/2009 9:43:39 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Nothing about this says anything about Evolution. I understand how this might make creations “feel” better in some sense, but I don’t think anyone who believes in evolution is going to be bothered with this, evolutionarily speaking.


27 posted on 08/24/2009 9:45:45 AM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Natural Law
So it holds, a light emitting object traveling away from you at the speed of light will never been seen?

Or...two objects traveling near the speed of light in opposite directions (Diversion speed in excess of the speed of light), will not allow light from one to be seen from the other?

Thank you.

28 posted on 08/24/2009 9:46:06 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: ClearCase_guy

But how do you know that you are you when you are there?


29 posted on 08/24/2009 9:46:50 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Are We at the Center of the Universe? (new solution to Einstein's field equations may put us there!)

To dispute this would be blasphemy!
Hah, where's Copernicus when you need him?

30 posted on 08/24/2009 9:48:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tenacious 1

Answer, motion does not affect the speed of light. However, it would affect your perception of the light. It is called the Doppler effect.


31 posted on 08/24/2009 9:48:53 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Natural Law

>>>> The issue is the inertial reference. The velocity of light is constant and absolute, but not relative to everything else. <<<<

In other words, “How Can You Be in Two Places at Once When You’re Not Anywhere at All.”


32 posted on 08/24/2009 9:49:24 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Actually, it’s the lunatic Temple of Darwin fanatics who are now flirting with a cosmic center. Of course, the creation cosmologists have been saying that the evidence points to a cosmic center, with the Milky Way at or near its center, for years. But your lunatic Temple of Darwin co-religionists closed their minds to the obvious and posited unobserved occult forces such as dark energy instead, because a privileged place for our galaxy went against their evo-religion.


33 posted on 08/24/2009 9:50:15 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law

“Since the universe is non-Euclidian it has no center.”

Wrong! Since the Old Testament says NOTHING about non-Euclidean geometries, Riemannian geometries, Hillbert space, wormholes, or any topological anomalies anywhere in the Universe, we are simply forbidden to discuss them. If we do we’ll be burned at the stake by the editorial board of Answers in Genesis.

See? Just like it says in Genesis! The End.


34 posted on 08/24/2009 9:51:28 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Moonman62

“at or near”


35 posted on 08/24/2009 9:51:31 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: angkor

everybody knows this is nowhere.


36 posted on 08/24/2009 9:52:51 AM PDT by dmz
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To: GodGunsGuts
I've known some people who thought they were....
37 posted on 08/24/2009 9:53:25 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Buck W.
Hey—how do Catholics feel about this?

I can only speak to how I feel about this as a Catholic. Genesis described creation for a scientifically ignorant audience and was to answer the social question of how and why.

I believe God created the Universe and all that is in it in spectacular fashion. I do not know how long one of God's days are, but we could still be in the 6th day of creation as he molds us into his image. We are intelligent and creative souls with a thirst for knowledge. If our perfect God accurately anticipated the efforts and ends we would go to understand all that we can, he has anticipated our exploration and provided for our thirst.

I do not believe humans will ever find the answer to the question, "Where did matter originate that once started the cosmic chaos?" I believe God has built in a limit to our knowledge in order to always provide us with the opportunity to have faith.

38 posted on 08/24/2009 9:53:25 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: GodGunsGuts

More like: on a cosmological scale, the notion of “center” is either meaningless or misunderstood. Too often we fail to recognize ours is a very very small and narrow existence and perception thereof.


39 posted on 08/24/2009 9:53:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (flag@whitehouse.gov may bounce messages but copies may be kept. Informants are still solicited.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
You DARE question the supremacy and authority of the Obamassiah?

Good thing the snitch-mail is gone from the White House, or the Black Helicopters™ would be circling you right now!

40 posted on 08/24/2009 9:54:12 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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