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Utah Told It Can’t Count Missionaries In Census
AP Report ^ | August 16, 2009

Posted on 08/16/2009 8:33:36 PM PDT by Steelfish

Utah told it can’t count missionaries in census

Bureau says there’s no way to reliably count those overseas in 2010

Aug 16, 2009

SALT LAKE CITY - The U.S. Census Bureau has told Utah's elected leaders it won't count Mormon missionaries serving overseas in the nation's next head count.

Census Bureau officials, rejecting Utah's lobbying efforts for the better part of a decade, say there's no way to reliably count the overseas missionaries.

Utah leaders say the omission cost the state an extra congressional seat in 2000, when the state fell just 857 people short of receiving the last available slot in the U.S. House.

The Census Bureau does count military and federal employees serving overseas, and Rob Bishop, R-Utah, says it should include Mormons on proselytizing missions.

"The bottom line should still be fairness and accuracy," Bishop said. "If we are currently counting some people abroad and not others, there is just no logic to that whatsoever."

An experiment in counting Americans abroad in 2004 turned into a "colossal failure," said Louis Kincannon, a former Census Bureau director under President Bill Clinton.

Few Americans responded to an outreach program in three sample countries — Mexico, France and Kuwait.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2010census; census; discrimination; impeachobama; missionaries; missionary; obama; utah
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To: ApplegateRanch

Just spent a week with more than 40 LDS. Trust me, they know where their missionaries are and when they are coming home.


81 posted on 08/16/2009 10:16:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: sheana

“I say we citizens need to undercount ourselves to make up for the illegals they plan on counting.”

You mean overcount? Like the 16 people living in my house?
This whole census issue has burned me up so much I think I am going to put the number higher. Screw ‘em.


82 posted on 08/16/2009 10:21:31 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: FReepaholic

Don’t bet on it. The laws for the masters are not the laws for the serfs.


83 posted on 08/16/2009 10:35:03 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

What they can’t seem to find out about bami, they’ll find out about you. The affairs give you Rat cred, but the Freeper cancels that out big time.


84 posted on 08/16/2009 10:35:07 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: Vendome
As a pay back for every county in Utah voting against Bill Clinton he put one of the worlds best coal deposits off limits to mining in Utah.

I would assume Utah did not vote for 0bama. Now 0bama wants his payback in the form of the census.

85 posted on 08/16/2009 10:58:42 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: Steelfish

One more reason for a revolution. No more waiting for elections.


86 posted on 08/16/2009 11:23:51 PM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Cindy

Thanks for the ping, Cindy.

From the article:
***The U.S. Supreme Court rejected Utah’s claims and ruled the Census Bureau enjoys wide discretion on counting.***

I wonder how much discretion ACORN will use?


87 posted on 08/17/2009 1:48:32 PM PDT by jer33 3
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To: jer33 3

That’s a good question jer33 3.


88 posted on 08/17/2009 1:58:54 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: ApplegateRanch

The simple solution to this would be for every Mormon household with a missionary to simply report him/her as presently living in the house. The house is, after all, their permanent residence. They don’t stay at any one location on their missions for more than a few months.


89 posted on 08/17/2009 2:02:46 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: EDINVA

UNDERCOUNT ;)
If they are counting the illegals then states like California, Arizona, Florida, etc. will get more reps.
To counteract the increase in pop from illegals citizens need to be undercounted.


90 posted on 08/17/2009 3:02:05 PM PDT by sheana
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