Posted on 08/03/2009 2:12:53 PM PDT by Calpernia
There are now modified photos of the COLB that broke here yesterday. The changes are so slight, that no one is noticing them.
The original one posted in breaking news:
One of the modified ones:
The changes are so subtle, you can barely tell which one you are looking at.
This modified one is showing jokes like: The Font of the Certificate=Schmutz (A Schmutz is a chump, as in you are a chump) #5733=The number of the Certificate, is code for : "Problem with Windows REGISTRY", a sly reference to your claim that Obama does not appear on the Hawaii Live Birth Registry. 47O44=Easiest of all. BOH's age=47 0=O (if you look close you can tell that that is a Schmutz Font "Oh" not "Zero") EF Lavender is ORGANIC DISH SOAP
The original one does not say EF Lavender, it says KF Lavender. The original one shows the number is: 47,644.
And what exactly is on her hard copy color image? After trying to follow the comments on this thread, there is now, no way to conclude what is on her hard copy.
There no longer appears to be a clean source of the image on-line.
Even she possesses color copy of a digital image, it is not prone to the tampering that has occurred on the internet which has now, in my opinion, vastly confused people as to what’s real and what’s not.
Not sure about the two veeps, but Chester Arthur’s father was a Scots-Irish American.
Barack Obama Sr was not an East African American, he wasn’t an ‘American’ anything.
Very true.
I just thought somebody would appreciate the historical origins of the color.
Thank you Jedidah! I think Elite is probably right for the typeface, it is very very similiar to Courier, which might have been modeled after that.
If the Bomford doc is legitimate, how/when/how was it photoshopped? Real documents aren’t photoshopped.
As for what is real- Obama is real and he sucks. A Kenyan BC document with his name on it is real, somewhere in this world unless it has been destroyed. Someone took a real digital photo of that piece of paper. That much is pretty clear from looking at that digital photo which most of us have on our hard drives and is on several web sites.
Orly's job is to find that piece of paper, or, better yet, find the book referenced in the paper that we see in the digital photo. Our job is too look skeptically and critically at the digital photo to find flaws that might point to the piece of paper being forged. Not finding flaws doesn't prove it is real, but being diligent about studying it adds to evidence that it is a photo of a genuine, unforged certified document.
Still says, “District of Mombasa.” As was correctly pointed out, Mombasa wasn’t in Kenya in 1961. Or has an alternate explanation for this been put forth that I didn’t read about?
Naturalized after he won the vice presidency, I believe.
The real point - what does Natural Born Citizen mean - will have to be up to a supreme court to decide. Right now precedent is against us - but right now we have a majority of justices who support a strict interpretation...
I give you this - it’ll be an interesting year.
My bet is that the Kenya civil service would be using hand me down Brit office equipment similar to that used elsewhere in the Empah in the 40’s and 50’s.
If I were to attempt a critical analysis of the document, I’d start with the known typefaces of machines in use in
the Indian Civil Service, the East Africa civil service, and possible the South Africa/Northern Rhodesia-Nyasaland Civil Service.
No way would they have the latest office equipment, and typewriters can last for ages.
What we need is to get a copy of Bomford’s original BC and compare them. That would answer all of our questions and prove this once and for all. Has anyone sought to do this yet?
How can someone know this? I didn’t realize that folks could see when a file was uploaded unless they were the ones doing the uploading and noted the time and date in their FTP client.
You're correct. You can't, unless the server is configured to allow access to the directory listing via HTTP or FTP. I don't believe that's the case with the Bomford site. Whoever it was who made the claim simply mistook the time/date stamp in his download directory for the document creation date.
Frankly, a lot of the comments on this thread have make my teeth itch just to read them. This whole thread is dumb. The differences between the two documents in the OP were obviously caused by JPEG artifacts resulting from one of the being a low-res copy.
The courts have done their level best to avoid just such a finding. Instead they have allowed him to to be naturalized by acclaimation (of the D members of the House).
If this Kenya BC withstands scrutiny, then I and many others will happily eat a crow sandwich.
Why would the Bomford who posted the birth certificate be at all interested in submitting a piece of their family history to anyone? Let’s just leave these people out of it, for goodness-sakes.
Sorry for arriving late to the party.
The first thing I thought on hearing this is: “Do we have other birth certificates from that office and year, to compare?”
This would be the best way to smoke out a forgery, I think.
Has anyone been able to dig up those contemporary documents?
Carrying Obama’s piss bucket makes him W & F
I would guess that that was an oopsy as to what identity she was signed in as.
I’ve caught people signing in on my blog as about 5 different people and then they argue with themselves. No kidding.
One obvious problem with this doc is that Kenya did not officially become a republic until 12/12/64. They were merely ‘independent’ on 12/12/63.
If I were the guy on Pawn Stars I’d want to consult with my
local expert on Kenyan archives and documents before loaning anything on this.
I am K.F. Lavender and I approve this thread
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