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There is a larger story at work here, larger than the birth certificate
08/02/2009 | TMMT

Posted on 08/02/2009 6:29:16 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

There is a larger story at work here, larger than the birth certificate (or lack thereof) itself.

In recent history we as a people have entrusted a solemn duty in the media to be our investigative arm in a process commonly called vetting, vetting of our politicians during a campaign for office. We trusted them to stay vigil, put the pressure on them and to dig deep, to root around in a candidates past and find the dirt, the good and the bad and lay it out there for us to see and judge the candidate by.

Until the recent age of the Internet it was all but impossible for such a group of like minded folks as Free Republic to come together and draw upon all the time, tools and talent we have to do our own digging and bring the facts into the light.

It was not possible for a simple person to sit at home and access public records from the living room, to read the small hometown newspaper archives or scan a blog put together by someone who personally knew a candidate, that told the tale of who the candidate really is.

In the end if it does come to pass that Obama was hiding something serious, whatever it may be it will be the media who is the most at fault, for letting their own hate of the Conservatives and the unquestionable blind love for anything liberal cloud their judgment. They will have failed to find the truth behind this man or worse yet, they found it but choose to keep it from us for what they surly felt was our own good.

If it comes to pass that Obama was not born in Hawaii the coming political and legal battle that will most certainly ensue will make the battles of the 2000 election look like traffic court in Mayberry and will divide this country in ways not seen since the Civil War.

The fever pitch at which the media is trying to demonize and kill this story is what has me curious, the way the MSM has taken to attacking its own once a reporter even gives a passing glance to this story has me even more curious as to just why. If this thing has been put to rest many times over and investigated to the point of exhaustion, why they are acting as they are.

Acting as if they have more to loose that Obama himself it the truth comes out.

Thats what I believe is behind all of this.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chat; colb; larrysinclairslover; msm; msmcorruption; naturalborn; obamanoncitizenissue
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1 posted on 08/02/2009 6:29:17 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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If there’s not another civil war in this country within the next two years, I’ll eat my hat.


2 posted on 08/02/2009 6:33:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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I agree...

But it’s still funny.

Why can’t these supposedly intelligent “journalists” realize you can’t kill a story by throwing ink at it anymore than you can put out a fire with gasoline?

The more the “journalists” rave, point fingers, stamp their feet and scream that there is NO STORY, the more curious Americans get.

By now, huge numbers of people who had totally forgotten about the issue have to be wondering what all the fuss is about and why Obama is keeping so many things hidden.

Like me, they are not sure what it is that he is hiding, but they are now convinced he is hiding something. And they want to know what it is.


3 posted on 08/02/2009 6:35:08 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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I told people two years ago if Obama was elected we would see civil war in this country...however I had NO idea he was going to be this bad!!!

History shows us one result with what we are doing...we end up at war either domestically or internationally either way that is how it ends...


4 posted on 08/02/2009 6:35:14 PM PDT by surfer
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yes, something’s up.

and I agree it’s the media’s fault... “their waterloo” someone said????

the vitriol and overzealous attacks of ANYONE who mentions this AT ALL is curious indeed.

funny, the whole thing would make birthers look silly if he just up and showed the BC.

BUT - like you I think something else is in play. IMO it will be shown ... to make birthers look silly and to tamp down any pressure to show all the OTHER records he won’t show.

I’ve been screaming for a while that the BC is only one of the things he’s hiding. I want medical records, fin aid apps, passport records, college applications, transcripts, post graduate writings, etc.

As always, I end the post with “Just who is this 0bama guy”. The press didn’t do their job.


5 posted on 08/02/2009 6:36:15 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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Were it not for the internet, nobody would have doubted Dan Rather and Mary Mapes.


6 posted on 08/02/2009 6:39:49 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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The media is afraid if there is any truth to this it will damage BO beyond repair effectively destroying his presidency and their agenda. He will have deceived the people.


7 posted on 08/02/2009 6:40:52 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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Cold civil war is what we have right now.


8 posted on 08/02/2009 6:41:44 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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The big story is that no part of either the state or Federal government will bestir themselves to determine if a candidate for senator or President is eligible. The MSM is an accomplice. We perhaps should not be astounded at their behavior since it was deplorable for at least two decades, but the fact that the election and nominating process does not require the documentation that a drivers license or registering your child at school is past amazing - it is astounding. The Democrats in their haste to beat Bush would run a candidate that cannot prove that he is eligible to be President of these United States. And having done so, the stand mute with their finger in a well known place essentially mocking the public.
9 posted on 08/02/2009 6:43:17 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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>>They will have failed to find the truth behind this man or worse yet, they found it but choose to keep it from us for what they surly felt was our own good. <<

I’m no lawyer, but that sounds to me as a textbook example of fraud. If indeed the MLM was complicit in furthering the fraud or worse, instrumental in perpertrating the fraud, they would be criminally involved. And they won’t be able to hide behind the First Amendment either.

Things to stock up on: Arms, non-perishable foods, water, silver and/or gold, tar, feathers, railroad ties and rope.


10 posted on 08/02/2009 6:44:04 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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11 posted on 08/02/2009 6:44:07 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Releasing fake Kenyan BC's is a deliberate effort to engage the "birthers" and make them look foolish. Discrediting the dissenters is tried and true political practice. The questions still remain:

If Obama has a genuine BC, proving his citizenship, why has he spent nearly $1M in legal fees...instead of just producing the BC? If Obama had to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school as a child, and the paperwork indicates that he was, was he repatriated? No record of that.

Incidentally, I can produce my BC, and those of my husband and children in 10 seconds flat.

12 posted on 08/02/2009 6:46:28 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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The media pushed for the “truth” of Dan Rather’s forged and fictitious documents despite the assertions of multiple professional document examiners.

They maligned the 125+ Swift Boat vets who served with and unveiled the lying John Kerry and his two or three (paid) former crewmen.

The biggest lie of 20th century American politics is “objective journalism.”


13 posted on 08/02/2009 6:47:18 PM PDT by angkor
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Right, the “media” is going to have to decide, turn on Obama or go down with him. Like the rats they are, they will choose to save themselves. It won’t be pretty


14 posted on 08/02/2009 6:48:11 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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AND if you couldn’t produce them, you and your family would be unable to function due to gov’t regulation at all levels. No birth certificate, no drivers license, no college, no school enrollment.

Illegals - oh forget it. Laws are for us sheeple.


15 posted on 08/02/2009 6:50:17 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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If it becomes clear that Obama is not a "natural born citizen," the ramifications will be terrible. Yes, the MSM will be destroyed utterly. But that would be the least of the effects. Civil war would be a strong possibility, I'm afraid. And that may be one reason that some will use to justify an attempt "hide the truth" (assuming the suspicions are in fact true.)

Anyone who thinks it would be better to hide the truth is hereby warned: The first rule of holes is "when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging." Don't make the problem any worse than it is by aiding and abetting a coverup. It's too late for that now. And the risks of a failed coverup are far greater than the risks of letting the truth out ASAP. The choices are stark: Cut off the gangrenous arm now, or helplessly watch the patient die later. Those are the only choices. Choose wisely.

16 posted on 08/02/2009 6:50:25 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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I agree. I don’t have enough information to draw a conclusion about his citizenship, but the issue should be TRANSPARENCY. Records such as a birth certificate, which ordinary citizens have to present to get a driver’s license or start a new job, should absolutely be made available when someone aspires to the highest office in the land.


17 posted on 08/02/2009 6:53:24 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Boy you hit the nail on the head with that statement! Good observation and very aptly put.


18 posted on 08/02/2009 6:53:53 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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>>>> I can produce my BC, and those of my husband and children in 10 seconds flat. <<<<<<

I have several copies in my file cabinet, as well as the original hospital birth registration.

Most people have at least one copy laying around somewhere.

Hawaii switched to the computer-generated copy in 2001 (that’s the one that’s been posted to the Internet a gazillion times).

It is preposterous to believe that Zer0 did not a copy of the original long form prior to 2001, when he was 40 years old.


19 posted on 08/02/2009 6:54:18 PM PDT by angkor
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Yeah that would be true IF we were dealing with honest reporters with integrity....BUT we are dealing with VILE evil agenda driving mad SOB who's sole goal is to destroy this country! THEY HAVE NO integrity or honesty in one single bone in thier bodies!!
20 posted on 08/02/2009 6:55:16 PM PDT by RoseofTexas (Obozo de klown is going down....down...down)
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