Posted on 08/02/2009 4:56:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
And then one of our moderators spotted this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate
It has several clues, but also there's this question:
Who is E. F. Lavender?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=earth+friendly+lavender&aq=f&oq=&aqi
Earth Friendly Lavender detergent?
Why? See post #59.
I think you're being way too anal about the whole thing. Your attitude reminds me of a funny "Far Side" cartoon I saw many years ago. There are two frames in the cartoon. The first frame shows an Indian village, where a drummer holding a big drumstick has been beating loudly on a huge drum, so hard, in fact, that there's now a huge hole in one side of the instrument. The other frame shows a circled group of covered wagons, with an anxious, frightened group of people gathered round their leader, who says, "Don't worry folks ... they only attack to the sound of the drums!"
Okay. Been through the OPM interview and it sucks. Maybe the current occupant didn’t have to go through it - but maybe he should. Maybe if he did - we would have been spared from this freakin nightmare. Have you ever been through it?
Worse yet is the fact that someone elected President gets automatic access to the highest classification of documents with ZERO background checks while some of us while employed by the DoD had to go through 5-year upgrades.
That question is impossible to answer without knowing a lot more about the places and the times. Sometimes women travel to hospitals to give birth because they have better care (perhaps American doctors?). Or, she may have been visiting someone in the area and went into labor when she was not expecting to. It’s hard to say, but that in and of itself doesn’t seem particularly damning.
Obama’s 57 states.
Not sure about the 33.
Was Mombasa a sea port?
Perhaps they traveled by boat rather than plane and she went into labor before she could get home.
(I ask from ignorance here...just thinking aloud)
Wait... Paul is not dead? Well, if he faked his death he is probably on the run.
Sorry, I don’t believe it is fake.
What on earth are you talking about? There’s no requirement of proof; no previous president has been asked to prove anything about their birth, including the one who may have been born in Canada. There’s no support whatsoever for your claims, and by your logic, the office of President has ALWAYS been vacant because no one has ever “proven” their eligibility before.
So all the anchor babies born to illegal Mexicans are not natural born citizens? (I think the “born on US soil automatically a citizen” thing needs to be changed, but it has been taken as unquestioned truth for a long time.) Their parents are not citizens but birth on US soil makes the baby a citizen, certainly a natural born citizen.
So, if OBama was born on US soil, then no one questions that he was a natural born citizen. But if he was not born on US soil, then his parentage comes into play.
But it can’t be a simple as: parents US citizens, baby US natural born citizen; parents not US citizens, baby not US natural born citizen.
Not “anal”. Just asking questions like everyone else here. It simply makes no sense to me that two people would travel to a 3rd country, not either of their home countries, to have their child. If you think that’s perfectly understandable, fine. I don’t.
The last post at the DU on the link of the first page is quite interesting.
Perhaps this registrar in Africa was named after this dude or one of his descendents? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t that the question here..if this was the name of a registrar and/or ‘district’ in Africa.....not a person?
That’s the impression I am getting from this.
The signature on the document appears to be less aged than the document. Look at the folds and you can see that the other type is somewhat faded because of the folding. Whereas, the signature does not and looks fairly fresh.
I wish otherwise .......... but the document may prove to be a fake. :O(
I admit to thinking the same thing today. This may well be a fake, but I am a little suspicious about the seemingly-coordinated hysteria about birthers over the past week.
You've obviously never heard about babies poping out early. What if they traveled to the beach and got surprised a few weeks ahead of time?
Perhaps they traveled by boat rather than plane and she went into labor before she could get home.
I understand what you're saying. And anything's possible. We're all just speculating here. But traveling halfway around the world by boat when you're apparently THISCLOSE to giving birth that you can't even wait until you're out of the port city? Seems incredibly risky and unlikely. The odds of giving birth on the high seas in such a situation would be extremely high. Would you even be allowed to take such a long trip in that condition?
Or he named his son after himself.
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