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Obamacare to Dump Expensive Elderly in Group Homes
Right Wing News ^ | 8/21/09

Posted on 08/01/2009 9:41:52 PM PDT by FromLori

We all keep hearing of how the costs of healthcare have skyrocketed and that the government has to "do something" about it. Obama keeps claiming, despite the evidence put out by the Congressional Budget Office, that his plan will lower costs. Still, the cost issue is central to this debate so in that vein the House healthcare bill has a few interesting ways to address costs.

One of those cost saving measures seems to be a patient dumping plan that will move the elderly away from more expensive medical procedures and place them in an institutionalized "home" setting reminiscent of some bad horror movie mad-house scene.

CNSNews has learned that the House bill proposes to lower hospital visits by older patients by referring them to what is being called a "medical home pilot program." This will be a new sort of institution set up to accept the elderly that isn't staffed with doctors and high cost medical equipment but is instead staffed by nurse practitioners and other less trained personnel.

Critics of the idea, though, worry that this program will amount to patient dumping.

But physicians' groups say the legislation could lead to restrictions on which treatments may be used for certain conditions, despite the fact that some patients might require a unique or unconventional approach. It also may lead to dumping Medicare/Medicaid patients in facilities that are not required to have physicians on staff.

Worse, this idea might result in a one-size-fits-all style of medical assessment for patients that aren't as rich as others. It will likely result in policies and procedures that ignore the individual needs of patients shoving them into a situation where their needs are not taken into account. Additionally, this sort of policy would eliminate the recommendation of doctors for a rote policy. Sadly, these policies may not even contain costs.

"Evidence-based medicine may provide transitory savings in the short term, but the same patient who takes the cheapest available statin today may very well be the patient costing you -- the taxpayer, the policymaker, the thought-leader, the sister, the spouse -- big bucks when that patient ends up in the hospital because of improperly treated cardiovascular disease," .

"The repercussions of choosing short-term thinking over long-term results and cost-based medicine over patient-based are pernicious to both the public purse and the public health," the CMPI report said.

And, once again, it is easy to see that the freedom and liberty, not to mention the physical safety and medical condition, of the public is in second place where it concerns a government take over of healthcare


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; elderly; healthcare; medicalhomes; socialized
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1 posted on 08/01/2009 9:41:55 PM PDT by FromLori
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2 posted on 08/01/2009 9:43:20 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: FromLori

Apparently Obama believes that he is God.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 9:43:57 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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It’s possible his wife is in the driver’s seat on this particular idea.


4 posted on 08/01/2009 9:46:44 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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5 posted on 08/01/2009 9:52:30 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: FromLori

This whole thing sounds, how can I say it, “European”.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 9:58:03 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Take a fish boating.)
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To: FromLori

“This will be a new sort of institution set up to accept the elderly that isn’t staffed with doctors and high cost medical equipment but is instead staffed by nurse practitioners and other less trained personnel.”


Hillary’s new job, a reprise of Nurse Ratchett.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 9:58:36 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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Obamacare to Dump Expensive Elderly in Group Homes

But homosexuals will, no doubt, receive sex change operations at a million $$$ a pop.
8 posted on 08/01/2009 10:03:09 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, he believes government is the solution, rather than the problem)
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To: Mount Athos

0 proposes “final solution” for the sick elderly (and the fat)


9 posted on 08/01/2009 10:06:11 PM PDT by omega4179 ((/) Happened)
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To: Mount Athos; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; budwiesest; WilliamofCarmichael; ...
Actually, that name... "PLANNED PARENTHOOD" could also refer to Obama's plan for people's parents just as it has applied to young parents planning to use abortion as birth control.

I also heard that Obama is planning to increase the measley $255 death benefit to a much larger amount. The only problem is that there will be a tax to pay for it against the old age benefit. The tax will reduce 1% for each yearly reduction in age achieved by the perosn on Soc Sec. Neat, huh?

10 posted on 08/01/2009 10:07:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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“The tax will reduce 1% for each yearly reduction in age achieved by the perosn on Soc Sec. Neat, huh?”

Won’t matter since my will states I should be sent to the local landfill with the rest of the garbage.


11 posted on 08/01/2009 10:11:49 PM PDT by dalereed
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These people are sick and I mean really sick.


12 posted on 08/01/2009 10:12:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Well, that's probably just fine as the bible, in one place, says: "The dead know not anything."

So whatcha don't know cain't possibly hurtcha!!!

13 posted on 08/01/2009 10:15:39 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: Steely Tom

Didn’t Michelle implement a patient dumping scheme for the Illinois hospital when she got paid $300,000+ ?


14 posted on 08/01/2009 10:19:10 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: FromLori

The story at http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/08/obamacare_to_dump_expensive_el.php is incorrect.

I notified Cybercast last week (Pete Winn) of the error and the story has been removed from CNS’s site. That is where the story originated.

“Medical home” is an administrative term in health care, not a building where people live.

Just search for the term, or go here: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/563437_2.


15 posted on 08/01/2009 10:19:14 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: headstamp 2
This whole thing sounds, how can I say it, “European”.

Well if you mean Nazi Germany you have a point!

16 posted on 08/01/2009 10:19:58 PM PDT by BellStar (Be strong ........Joshua 1:6)
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To: FromLori

For those interested, this is in the bill starting on line 4 of page 460.

Go read it yourself and be informed.


17 posted on 08/01/2009 10:25:13 PM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: FromLori

This practice is illegal as the state hospital system was ruled to be unconstitutional and demeaning the mentally Ill and those who resided in the state hosptials because their families were unable to care for them. This included the retarded and down syndrome people.

Now if they plan on a similar housing of the aged and infirm, that is apparently planned is not going to go too far.


18 posted on 08/01/2009 10:25:33 PM PDT by longun45 (Still think a revolution cannot happen here? It's coming and gaining speed. .)
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To: Kartographer

...strange and scary, this new reality of “what was” only a generation ago against the “unwanted.” Ironic to think that the boomer generation, whose father’s fought in WWII against such an autorocity now face an autoricity themselves...


19 posted on 08/01/2009 10:29:48 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: FromLori

Obamacare... Taking care of the national debt one old fart at a time!


20 posted on 08/01/2009 10:31:29 PM PDT by Safrguns
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