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Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama's citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9

There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.

A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.

The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.

What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.


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To: Star Traveler

If only 1 state passes a law requiring physical proof of a BC before the next election he will have show it he runs again. THAT would force the issue once and for all.


41 posted on 08/01/2009 2:04:11 PM PDT by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: presidio9

There’s Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America
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Tinfoil Helmet America? Hm?....Looks like those defending the Constitution are at stage II.

“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.” — Mahatma Gandhi


42 posted on 08/01/2009 2:04:17 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: presidio9
O.K. Simple Question, though.

Why is the long form birth certificate an Ultra Top State Secret?

43 posted on 08/01/2009 2:05:09 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: presidio9

We need to have confidence in our leader, we do not need a confidence man leading us


44 posted on 08/01/2009 2:05:26 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: buccaneer81
Who's his daddy?

Perhaps Officer Crowley was able to lift some DNA.

45 posted on 08/01/2009 2:06:29 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: mitchbert

You said — If only 1 state passes a law requiring physical proof of a BC before the next election he will have show it he runs again. THAT would force the issue once and for all.

Well..., I’m glad we’ve got one FReeper posting this... LOL...

Yes, that’s the idea. However, I have also said that it should be maybe five or so states, so that a candidate couldn’t just bypass the one state. That’s possible, even if it did raise questions. But, bypassing, let’s say, about five states would cause an uproar...

Anyway, that’s why I would like to see at least about five state... :-)


46 posted on 08/01/2009 2:06:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: InterceptPoint
if he/she had done 10 minutes worth of real research on the subject.
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The author has done more than 10 minutes of research. This Marxist author is deliberately lying!

Marxism is our nation's most serious threat.

Corollary: **ALL** Marxists lie!

47 posted on 08/01/2009 2:07:06 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: presidio9

All you have to do is watch Obama and his flunkies very closely. Notice they NEVER EVER address the issue of his citizenship directly, they leave it to others to laugh it off. Folks, if Obama was really an American citizen, he would simply produce an official birth certificate. People are freaking out because they can’t handle the fact that we have allowed an African tribalist to run our nation. This is truly one of the most bizarre periods in history.


48 posted on 08/01/2009 2:07:51 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: FormerACLUmember; presidio9

You asked a simple question — Why is the long form birth certificate an Ultra Top State Secret?

And you get a simple answer — there is no *legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate. :-)


49 posted on 08/01/2009 2:08:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: x_plus_one

You said — Obama has hidden, cloaked, lost and disposed of more of the paper trail of his life than any other human in US political history. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Asking for documentation of the name of the physician that delivered Ann Dunham is a minor request.

And you’ve gotten exactly nothing in response. One very clear reason why no one has been shown the birth certificate is that there is *no legal requirement* for a candidate to show it. And that’s precisely why the simple solution is to enact a state law requiring it...

But, that’s just “too much” for some people to fathom...


50 posted on 08/01/2009 2:09:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I can’t imagine why anyone would have a problem with a law that requires the presentation of the LONG form birth certificate in order to file for the position of POTUS. Particularly given the current concern and various rumors of where and who, it seems a law would preclude such questions in the future. And that would be a good thing.

I also can’t imagine why anyone who is in an office that has natural citizenship as a stated requirement would have a problem showing their birth certificate, even if after the fact and while occupying said office.

So please, can someone tell me why we can’t see it???


51 posted on 08/01/2009 2:10:37 PM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: TurtleUp
Former US Senator obama is not my president. He is an evil and divisive druggie who hates capitalism, hates white people, and hates America. He is the usurper in my White House and a threat to my country, nothing more.

Meaning that you reject the Constitution of the United States. In which case, you're less of an American than he is.

52 posted on 08/01/2009 2:11:46 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: presidio9
"A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos..."

Meh...lost all credibility right there.
53 posted on 08/01/2009 2:11:47 PM PDT by liberty75
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To: presidio9

“Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama’s citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:38:58 PM by presidio9

There’s Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.”
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Evil calling the good names?
Iwould call this shameful, except that they are indeed shameless!

Yes the third camp is quite large—it consists of real Americans, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen, Veterans, harworking Americans, old folks, youngsters, men, women, people who know what Freedom and Liberty IS, and how we got it and now learning again how we must keeep it, and all else that is traditional and good of America!

No, not enormously large yet—but growing daily as people are waking up!


54 posted on 08/01/2009 2:11:48 PM PDT by gunnyg (Just Plain Dick)
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To: pepperdog

You said — So please, can someone tell me why we can’t see it???

Because there isn’t a law requiring it... hence, the idea of “get a law”... LOL...


55 posted on 08/01/2009 2:12:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Don Corleone

Just to keep people updated :

http://www.google.com/profiles/110044766822103526426

Lucas Smith

(the guy who says he has Obamas Kenyan BC and who had it on eBay)

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I will be releasing a video in August (yes, 2009) which entails information about the birth place of US President Barack Obama. This video will include footage of US President Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. You’ll see the birth certificate close up and from different angles. You’ll be able to distinguish and make out the embossed (or raised) seal on the certificate. Among the names on the certificate is a doctor that was present at the birth.

I do apologize for the lengthy delay. However, Obama has kept us waiting longer. He’s kept us waiting for several months now. There is no logical reason for the President not to release his original birth certificate.
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There is more if you go to the link


56 posted on 08/01/2009 2:12:26 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Star Traveler
I just say to do the normal and sane and practical thing and get a state law passed that requires a candidate to produce his birth certificate or else he cannot be placed on the ballot.

I agree that we need to pursue preventative measures for next time.

Continuing to question whether he is Constitutionally qualified in a calm and deliberate manner, questioning his lack of documentation, and his loyalty to the US Constitution and most of its people has caused ripples of disbelief through the sector of the population which may be experiencing voter regret.

Just as we do not need to wake up those who have been opposed to Obama's policies, there is a contingent who will regularly drink the Kool-Aid and proclaim it Merlot.

There is, however a third group, who have been depending on the MSM all these years for news and opinions has had their eyes opened, who have that seed of doubt sprouting within their psyche, who are looking, perhaps for the first time with critical thinking at the polices espoused by Obama and embraced by the Congress, and are beginning to realize that they have been played for suckers.

We have been witness to the greatest rip-off in the history of humans, and the looting continues, at Obama's request with the nearly full compliance of Congress.

Keep beating the drum! Where's tha documentation?

The Dems beat the "Bush-failure" drum for over eight years, heck, they still dust it off.

They had no substantiable reason, we have every reason.

GIve no slack in any quarter, as more people become aware of the issue (the real issue, of Natural Born Citizenship, of oaths possibly violated, and of the contempt for the Constitution) we can make them aware of the theft of their rights and money on all fronts.

Like why the Government is paying other people up to $4500 to buy a car and crush their old one when those (crushed) vehicles might be in better shape than those many who live within their means drive even now, and that the same people who live within their means are expected (AGAIN!) to pick up the tab for others who might not be living within theirs...

but that is another issue...

57 posted on 08/01/2009 2:12:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: DesertRenegade

You said — Folks, if Obama was really an American citizen, he would simply produce an official birth certificate.

So, does that mean you’re going to be working for this state law now?

See this thread for someone who *gets the right idea*... :-)

(Vanity Post) We Need One State To Challenge Obambi’s Status
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2305746/posts


58 posted on 08/01/2009 2:13:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah, and I am always amazed at how stupid some people are.


59 posted on 08/01/2009 2:13:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Actually, we should have taken a sample off Larry Sinclair...


60 posted on 08/01/2009 2:14:05 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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